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Addition of recruits Barnes, Irving could help Duke turn corner

There was speculation that it would happen early this week. But it didn't. And now it seems Duke might have to wait until after Kyrie Irving attends Kentucky's Big Blue Madness to find out whether it will land the elite point guard from New Jersey.

Still, Duke should get him.

That's the word.

Harrison Barnes of Ames, Iowa is arguably the best wing in the 2010 class. (MaxPreps)  
Harrison Barnes of Ames, Iowa is arguably the best wing in the 2010 class. (MaxPreps)    
And if Mike Krzyzewski also lands Harrison Barnes -- Duke is widely considered the leader for Barnes, too -- then we won't be talking about the Blue Devils' Final Four drought much longer, because a core of Irving and Barnes is the type of core that would return Duke to its rightful place among the nation's truly elite basketball schools.

Yes, they're that good.

Scout.com ranks Barnes No. 1 in the Class of 2010.

Irving is ranked No. 5.

Assuming both sign with the Blue Devils, it will mark just the first and second times that Duke has landed a prospect ranked in Scout.com's top five since it got top-ranked Josh McRoberts from the Class of 2005, which brings us back to that Final Four drought. You are probably aware that the Blue Devils haven't made the Final Four since 2004, that they've made the Sweet 16 just once in the past three seasons. By Duke standards, that's bad. And it can be traced to the program's past five recruiting classes that have been nothing short of terrible.

Consider that Duke has enrolled 18 players from the past five classes.

It breaks down like this:

 Three NBA-level players (McRoberts, Gerald Henderson, Kyle Singler)

 One high-level college player (Jon Scheyer)

 Two average college players (Nolan Smith, Lance Thomas)

 Four players who transferred (Taylor King, Elliot Williams, Eric Boateng, Jamal Boykin)

 Four players who were/are busts (Martynas Pocious, Brian Zoubek, Greg Paulus, Olek Czyz)

 Four players who are too young to label (Miles Plumlee, Mason Plumlee, Ryan Kelly, Andre Dawkins)

So to summarize, Duke's past five recruiting classes have produced more transfers than NBA players, more busts than All-Americans. It's a stunning statistic -- particularly when you consider that North Carolina's past five recruiting classes have produced at least eight NBA-level players (Tyler Hansbrough, Danny Green, Brandon Wright, Wayne Ellington, Ty Lawson, Tyler Zeller, Ed Davis, John Henson). Meantime, Kansas' past five classes have produced at least seven NBA-level players (Brandon Rush, Julian Wright, Mario Chalmers, Darrell Arthur, Sherron Collins, Cole Aldrich, Xavier Henry), and that's why UNC and KU have consistently remained in contention for national titles.

Coach K hasn't sniffed a national title in a while.

It's a direct result, I think, of putting too much emphasis on character and intangibles -- i.e., so-called "good and smart kids" -- in recruiting and not enough emphasis on just getting badass ballers who can run and jump at an elite level. Beyond that, Duke hasn't always operated with a clear backup plan, and so when the Blue Devils missed on guys like Greg Monroe (signed with Georgetown) and Kenny Boynton (signed with Florida), there was nowhere to turn and recover.

In other words, while somebody like John Calipari will cast a wide net -- Kentucky has offered each of the top four point guards in the Class of 2010; Calipari will be thrilled to get any two of them -- Krzyzewski has a history of isolating targets and focusing almost exclusively on a handful of guys. Throughout most of the 1990s, it worked. But at some point over the past decade kids stopped automatically accepting scholarship offers from Duke over places like Georgetown and Florida, and that has clearly played a role in the slip.

But the slip is over.

Or at least it's about to be over.

It's a testament to Krzyzewski as a coach that he was able to take those recruiting classes listed above and still finish first or second in the ACC in three of the past four seasons. To do that with those players is an accomplishment. But the Blue Devils should be accomplishing more, and the Duke staff -- Krzyzewski and assistants Chris Collins, Nate James and Steve Wojciechowski -- now has the program on the verge of landing the level of prospect that it takes to do exactly that.

Make no mistake, Harrison Barnes and Kyrie Irving seem like good kids.

But that's not why they're ranked among the top five of the Class of 2010.

Rather, they're in the top five because they're ridiculously talented prospects -- arguably the best point guard (Irving) and wing (Barnes) in the nation. The word "athletic" appears in both of their "Player Evaluations" at Scout.com, and that must be a welcomed sign to Duke fans who have watched the Blue Devils spend too many games lately as the lesser-athletic team.

Bottom line, the recruiting troubles that have plagued Duke recently seem to be a thing of the past.

That means those on-the-court troubles will soon be disappearing, too.

 
For more from Gary Parrish, check him out on Twitter: @GaryParrishCBS
 

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October 1, 2009 12:01 am
I respect Gary's opinions about college basketball.  But to write an article about Duke's potential resurgence(spelling?) before two players have even been officially signed seems like he may be putting the cart before the horse.

I'm not saying that Duke won't land these guys.  It just reminded me of similar stories earlier in the year touting the potential John Wall/Gerald He
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October 1, 2009 10:17 am
The addition of John Calipari to Kentucky's already embarrassing pile of program riches has changed the recruiting landscape considerably. Cal is widely regarded as the coach that has the most success preparing the high school uber-elite for NBA stardom, and this makes HIM the one that's being recruited by many 5-star players and their families.

Kentucky has recently mor
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October 1, 2009 4:08 pm
Duke will not land Barnes.  Barnes is headed to Carolina it's just a matter of time before he commits.  He'll complete all of his official visits and then sign during the early signing period with Ol' Roy.  Barnes's mom prefers the heels and quite frankly if you want to be a good pro you don't go to Duke.  It's a fact Duke players under coach K are not prepared to be good pro's ...(more)
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October 2, 2009 10:03 am
I remember that guy and i remembered thinking this guy was a top 5 recruit?  They need more guys like Henderson who could actually play.  McRoberts left early and did nothing.  He was a bum in college and a bigger bum in NBA.  Did he even make a team?  I can't stand Duke but i like the fact that they don't have kids toting guns around, selling dope, stealing and taking mon ...(more)
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October 1, 2009 9:40 am
I'd love to see Garry do an article comparing how well 5-star recruits tend to do at each school. I know this, every 5-star recruit that Roy has landed at UNC has been successful (has either gone on to the NBA or certainly appears to be heading in that direction). I assume you would see something similar with Self at Kansas. Has that  been the case with Duke? I think not. This is either ...(more)
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October 2, 2009 11:15 am
Gary is right in the fact that Duke recruiting needs a makeover.  I've followed Duke basketball for years and you can trace back Coach K's recruiting change to when he lost Luol Deng after his freshman year and lost Shawn Livingston to the NBA in the same offseason.  Ever since then he has shyed away from those one and done type of players and its really not hard to fault him for it.&nbs ...(more)
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October 1, 2009 4:00 am
Gary, why is it bad that Krzyzewski is going after good kids who can also play high-level basketball? That's what won for him in the 1990's. That's what Dean Smith made a career out of. Personally, I'd rather have a guy who's a little bit worse but will do the right things over a guy who has the talent but also the potential to destroy the program with bad decisions.
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October 1, 2009 8:42 am
"Assuming both sign with the Blue Devils, it will mark just the first and second times that Duke has landed a prospect ranked in Scout.com's top five since it got top-ranked Josh McRoberts from the Class of 2005." And, with top-ranked McRoberts, they had 2 NCAA victories in his 2 years there -- Southern U. and George Washington. So, your point is?

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October 2, 2009 2:49 pm

Unlike the other schools you mentioned, Duke is still thought of as an academically elite institution; if they can't get guys who can ball on the court and in the classroom, then so be it. From all accounts, Barnes and Irving are good students (Barnes is actually spectacular, with a very high GPA in Honors/AP courses, and Irving is an as ...(more)

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September 30, 2009 11:36 pm
By using Scouts ranking, Duke has had a class average over the past four years of 6.25, higher than anyone else in the country.  Could it be that it isn't bad recruiting, but bad player development that is causing their problems?
Over three years, Henderson still didn't have a good outside shot and couldn't drive left.
No post players have been developed since Williams and instead o
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October 1, 2009 9:41 am
he was the 2ND RATED PLAYER IN THE COUNTRY!! (Rivals)

kyle singler was 5th!
gerald henderson 11!
eliot williams 16!
greg paulus 11!
demarcus nelson 17!
luol deng 2ND!


are these guys not good enough recruits???

i understand that the better players you get, the better your team should be, but dook has not had trouble recruit
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October 1, 2009 12:25 am
Gary, 
It seems like you are setting Duke up for failure here. Barnes is not a Duke lock. He is still being recruited by the best programs in the country. This article needed to wait a few more weeks. Good idea though for a column. Nice write up.
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September 30, 2009 11:22 pm
If nearly 25% (4 of 18, or so) of the players mentioned in this article were busts, then the assumption that these 2 kids will return the program to NC contention is a little sketchy.  Sounds like there's a talent evaluation issue, more than anything else.  We shall see. 
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October 1, 2009 8:34 am
"It's a testament to Krzyzewski as a coach that he was able to take those recruiting classes listed above and still finish first or second in the ACC in three of the past four seasons."

Let me correct your logic, since one of those recruiting classes was #1 in in the nation (McRoberts, Paulus et al) and since your list of busts, transfers and NBA defectors is so long
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