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Player rankings: Wall beats out Collins as best point guard

John Wall is the nation's best point guard, in my opinion.

Player rankings: Wall beats out Collins as best point guard - NCAA Division I Mens Basketball - CBSSports.com

Let the record show that Sherron Collins does not like my opinion.

"It bothers me a little bit," Collins said when I asked about all the attention Wall is getting. "I think I've established myself, and he's coming out of high school with a lot of hype. But I'm the old guy, and I ain't gonna let no young boy get the best of me."

That sounds like a challenge.

Perhaps we can settle it on the first Monday in April.

"It would be a good matchup: Kansas vs. Kentucky," Collins said. "I'd like to play him."

I'd like to see it.

Anyway, here's a list of the nation's top point guards and combo guards:

(Don't forget to read the explanation for these rankings in the blog.)

1. John Wall, Kentucky

Why he's here: I've pretty much tied my reputation as a brilliant evaluator of talent -- yes, it's a reputation I gave myself -- on the Wildcats' star freshman. You know what? I'm OK with it. Lots of fans questioned me for naming Wall the CBSSports.com Preseason National Player of the Year, as did Collins. But I've had several coaches tell me I'll end up looking smart for doing it, and I tend to trust coaches more than fans. And I trust Brett Dawson, too. He's the Kentucky beat writer for the Louisville Courier-Journal. He watched UK scrimmage over the weekend and tweeted the following: "John Wall looks like nothing you've ever seen in blue and white. Ever."

2. Sherron Collins, Kansas

Why he's here: Sorry, Sherron. You're great, and that's why you're this high. It's just that, and I quote, "John Wall looks like nothing you've ever seen in blue and white. Ever."

3. Kalin Lucas, Michigan State

Why here's here: Lucas is the reigning Big Ten Player of the Year, co-captain of an MSU team expected to return to the Final Four. He averaged 14.7 points and 4.6 assists last season; he was even better in Big Ten road games, averaging 18.0 points as the Spartans set a school record with an 8-1 league road record.

4. Devan Downey, South Carolina

Why he's here: If you're keeping track, Wall is preventing Collins from being labeled the nation's top point guard, which means he's preventing Downey from being labeled the SEC's top point guard. So he's clearly screwing up things for guys older than him, and the games haven't even started.

5. Scottie Reynolds, Villanova

Why he's here: Reynolds averaged 15.2 points last season while leading the Wildcats to the Final Four and a school-record 30 wins. The presence of Corey Fisher allows him to focus less on distributing and more on what he naturally does well, i.e., score.

6. Greivis Vasquez, Maryland

Why he's here: Vasquez hasn't been at Maryland longer than Gary Williams; it only seems that way. He averaged 17.5 points, 5.4 rebounds and 5.0 assists last season. If those numbers stay the same or improve, the senior will take the Terrapins back to the NCAA tournament.

7. Kemba Walker, Connecticut

Why here's here: That the Huskies lost A.J. Price will seem minimal once Walker gets going. He's a 6-foot-1 native of New York who will go from averaging 8.9 points as a freshman to nearly double that as a sophomore.

8. Kenny Boynton, Florida

Why he's here: Boynton will play more shooting guard than point guard, but the loss of Nick Calathes will force him to handle the ball for the Gators. And that's not necessarily a bad thing; Boynton is among the nation's most talented freshmen, a gifted scorer who should post big numbers for Billy Donovan, right from the start.

9. Isaiah Thomas, Washington

Why he's here: Incoming freshman Abdul Gaddy, a true point, will allow Thomas to play off the ball and focus on scoring. He could go from Pac-10 Freshman of the Year to Pac-10 Player of the Year if he improves on averages of 15.5 points and 2.6 assists per game while leading the Huskies to a league title.

10. Talor Battle, Penn State

Why he's here: Battle averaged 16.7 points and 5.0 assists last season to help the Nittany Lions win 27 games. Did you even know Penn State won 27 games?

The next 15

• 11. Jerome Randle (California) • 16. Deonta Vaughan (Cincinnati) • 21. Denis Clemente (Kansas State)
• 12. Nic Wise (Arizona) • 17. Jimmer Fredette (BYU) • 22. Corey Fisher (Villanova)
• 13. Abdul Gaddy (Washington) • 18. A.J. Slaughter (Western Kentucky) • 23. Chris Warren (Ole Miss)
• 14. Shelvin Mack (Butler) • 19. Jon Scheyer (Duke) • 24. Demetri McCamey (Illinois)
• 15. Malcolm Delaney (Virginia Tech) • 20. Charles Jenkins (Hofstra) • 25. Courtney Fortson (Arkansas)

2009-10 Season Preview/Conference Countdown Schedule
DateFeatureDateFeature
Monday, Oct. 5Preseason Top 25 (and one) Monday, Oct. 26Coaches on the Hot Seat
Wednesday, Oct. 7Preseason All-America Team Wednesday, Oct. 28Ranking the best of the non-BCS
Friday, Oct. 9Impact Freshmen Friday, Oct. 30No. 6: Pac-10
Monday, Oct. 12Programs on the Rise Monday, Nov. 2No. 5: SEC
Wednesday, Oct. 14Programs on the Decline Tuesday, Nov. 3No. 4: Big East
Friday, Oct. 16Midnight Madness | From Kansas Wednesday, Nov. 4No. 3: ACC
Monday, Oct. 19Player rankings: Points/Combos Thursday, Nov. 5No. 2: Big Ten
Wednesday, Oct. 21Player rankings: Wings Friday, Nov. 6No. 1: Big 12
Friday, Oct. 23Player rankings: Big Men Monday, Nov. 9Brackets: Parrish | Palm

 
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Talk Back
Reputation:99
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October 20, 2009 1:33 pm

I appreciate Gary's need to make a headline using Wall as a No. 1 COLLEGE overall player.The best PG's have actually played a game in the NCAA's, ranked by Gary's system, both have experience, leadership skills, play defense, and can play with anyone INCLUDING WALL.

More than that, A COLLEGE PG is required to do more t ...(more)

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October 20, 2009 8:22 am

I'm a UK season ticket holder and have had the oppurtunity to sit in on several UK practices over the years.  I've gotten the chance to do this this season, so I've gotten to see Wall first-hand.  Wall is the most talented freshman I've seen at UK, and it's by a decisive advantage.  Ron Mercer, Kyle Macy, Kenny Walker, Jamal Mashburn etc, etc, I've seen them all.

What ...(more)

Reputation:76
Level:Pro
Since:Mar 14, 2007

October 22, 2009 3:45 pm
Putting John Wall ahead of Collins might be a little ballsy but Collins shouldn't be insulted because at least he was given consideration. The person who should be insulted is Xavier University's Jamal Crawford. I realize that dunking on Lebron James doesn't automatically make you a great basketball player but he also possesses all the qualities of a great guard. By not putting him in the Top 25 I ...(more)
Reputation:98
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Since:Dec 18, 2006

October 24, 2009 8:59 pm
I know that a lot of folks are saying that UNC's weakness is Larry Drew at PG, but wait a few games and you might be surprised. Drew didn't get much of a chance to prove himself last year, but I saw some nice passing at times. He also didn't look to score. I believe that this kid is gonna make some folks take notice before his career is over.
Reputation:97
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Since:Jun 22, 2008

October 22, 2009 3:11 pm
A freshman that has never played one minute of college basketball over a senior to be who already has a championship. Gary, did you bother to watch the 2008 championship game?

Dollars to Donuts Mr. Parrish would have those top two rankings switched if Collins had a Duke,  UNC, or UK jersey.
Reputation:97
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Since:Dec 30, 2008

October 21, 2009 9:49 am
Gary you are so right about Wall- very special & add him with the other 5 newcomers & Paterson, Miller & I believe Liggins is really going to flurish in the dribble drive. The key to all of this is Coach Cal unbelieveable ability to mold & convince all of this talent to play their roles(which is have fun playing basketball-we have missed that in Lexington for at least 5 years) Like ...(more)
Reputation:92
Level:All-Star
Since:Aug 21, 2006

October 24, 2009 12:47 pm
Gary, you are turning into Gregg Maggot Doyel which is a horrible thing. You are starting to write articles just to piss people off.  I really hope Wall tanks it (assuming he is eligible cough cough) so you can eat crow, along with all of the annoying UK fans.

And I'm sorry, but Nic Wise is not a top ten point guard? What are you smoking and will you share it with me?

Yo
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Since:Aug 16, 2006

October 19, 2009 2:54 pm
I think this guy could easily jump into the top 10, and certainly should be ahead of guys I'm familiar with like Thomas and Wise. Those are shooting guards in a point guard's body, and Gaddy is the exact opposite, which is what makes him so appealing. Wise sucks.
Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 2, 2009

October 21, 2009 1:47 pm
Maybe Wall will be the best player, but I think Parrish is biased. He has covered coach Cal for years and I think he has become a bit blinded by the salesman/televangelist persona Cal puts on. No doubt Wall is a stud, but Collins is cold-blooded and already helped topple one Calipari team (thought the NCAA doesn't acknowledge that KU was playing anyone anymore LOL). Anyway, I wouldn't trade a batt ...(more)
Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Sep 7, 2006

October 20, 2009 1:49 pm
GP's therapist told him to seek out instant and positive validation for some absurd opinion in order to boost his flagging self esteem.

There's no other really decent explanation for how he would continue to pander to the Wildcat faithful by selecting a kid who hasn't played a significant minute of basketball as the number one guard in the entire nation, over several players who ha
...(more)
Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Sep 14, 2006

October 19, 2009 3:30 pm
Let it be known, I am a Kansas Jayhawk, and to a lesser degree, a Michigan State fan as well. Dismiss the bias.

However, I've also seen them play as a byproduct of that a great deal of times, both on television, and in person (and in the case of Lucas, in high school at Orchard Lake St. Mary's here in Detroit, where he was vastly underrated by recruiting services, a high-four
...(more)
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October 19, 2009 4:26 pm
I'm not disagreeing with the fact, it's just amazing to look at that fact after all of the guard talent that was in the conference just last year.

I know you like Gary Williams and Vasquez at Maryland, but besides you and Andy Katz from ESPN, I haven't seen much love for Vasquez elsewhere. Hopefully some more reporters/analysts jump on the Terp bandwagon, and hopefully they do some gr
...(more)
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October 21, 2009 1:27 am
In the words of Coach Gundy... this is garbage. I am sick and tired of hearing of all the hype about Wall. Greatest point guard in college basketball? That is a load of garbage seeing how he has yet to play a college game. And let's talk about point guard here, who thinks this guy is gonna go out there and be a true point guard. No. He's gonna score. He's going to the NBA next year so why would he ...(more)
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October 19, 2009 2:18 pm
Gary I think you should add a category of players who may make you pay for leaving them unranked.

For instance I think Chris Wright of georgetown is one point/combo guard who could make you look foolish for not ranking him. I'm fine with him not being on your list currently, but I think he's going to have a break out season. He'll be a junior this year, but last year was basically hi
...(more)
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October 19, 2009 6:05 pm
You all remember him for having ONIONS!!!! DOUBLE ORDER!!!!! But the truth is that Ronald Moore, as a pure point guard, is top 10 in the country. He doesn't score a whole lot but if you watched Siena in the tourney last year you would have seen Moore shredding the Ohio St and Louisville defenses-running all over them in transition. In terms of passing, ball handling, and setting the tempo there is ...(more)
 
 
 
 
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