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Spurrier's fraudulent SEC vote makes fraud of coaches poll, too

HOOVER, Ala. -- The coaches poll just died here Friday morning.

There was no news release. You won't read about it anywhere but here. But it's done, kaput, over with, after more than 50 years.

So, who (probably) brought the coaches poll down? This guy. (AP)  
So, who (probably) brought the coaches poll down? This guy. (AP)  
You know why? It has as much credibility left as Dick Cheney and his stance on those weapons of mass destruction.

It has to be over now, doesn't it? One of the most beloved figures in the sport just stripped it of any remaining value.

South Carolina's Steve Spurrier admitted Friday at the SEC media days that he was the one who didn't vote for Tim Tebow on the all-SEC team. What's that got to do with the coaches poll? In apologizing for leaving Tebow off his ballot, Spurrier admitted that he hadn't filled out his all-SEC ballot for his last 17 seasons.

Anonymously, of course. The SEC doesn't reveal the vote totals, who voted for whom or if the coaches actually voted.

"I've never filled one out," Spurrier said, "but I usually look at it."

This came from a guy with a coaches poll vote. This from a guy who has been adamant about his fellow coaches disclosing their final ballots in that poll. You can't do one thing and say the other.

Can you?

"I don't know why we vote," Spurrier said of the SEC ballot. "I guess we vote 'cause college football is still without a playoff system. I really believe most coaches do not know a whole lot about the other teams."

 Dodd: Spurrier didn't vote Tebow | Tebow chaste-land | Ole Miss

That's certainly not a ringing endorsement of football coaches' knowledge of football. The reality is most coaches are so consumed with their jobs and their teams they don't have the time or the will to make the proper commitment. They call it a bunker and most coaches are so singularly focused that they reside in one from July through February.

That would be somewhat tolerable if it were just a poll. In essence, the coaches manage their own bank. They largely control a system that decides the BCS bowl teams and the money that goes with it.

That's not what the BCS commissioners want to hear. From the information I'm getting, they're ready to drop the coaches poll if the American Football Coaches Association changes its stance and begins hiding final ballots again in 2010.

The coaches already are on notice. I wrote earlier this week that they were asked to delay implementation of the change to 2010 so the BCS could consider whether it wanted the coaches poll to be a part of the process.

Friday revealed more about the coaches' voting habits -- or lack thereof. Spurrier's non-participation in a simple preseason ballot led to a controversy this week that might not be over yet. The man who is Florida football ended up having to apologize to the school's greatest player.

LSU coach Les Miles said he fills out his all-SEC ballot "in conjunction with" the SID over the phone. Tennessee's Lane Kiffin "had some of the guys around the office help me."

I want to believe that these guys take their coaches poll ballots more seriously. I can't. Joe Paterno used to let his SID fill out his ballot. Missouri's Gary Pinkel ranked the nation's only undefeated team (Utah) No. 15 last season. Spurrier himself used to give a sympathy vote in the preseason to Duke, the school that gave him his first head-coaching job.

It's over, boys, and you have to know it. The BCS has had enough crap slung at it without more shenanigans from the coaches. It's time to get rid of the poll.

The BCS has shown ability to re-tool on the fly. The Harris poll was assembled during the offseason after the AP poll dropped out following the 2004 season.

The coaches will back down on the secrecy issue. They have to. The BCS gives the poll some shred of credibility, not the other way around. Then it's up to the BCS commissioners to say it doesn't matter. The coaches poll is way beyond repair.

Friday proved it.

 
 

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July 26, 2009 10:19 pm
...is that if the coaches are farming out the poll voting function to someone in their department with, say... more time to actually evaluate the other football teams, they theoretically might do a better job than a coach who is already putting in 100 hours a week with his core functions.  I would expect that most AD's would prefer coach to be prepared for the next week' ...(more)
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July 26, 2009 2:34 pm
So the Coaches Poll isn't perfect. So what? It's still about a thousand times superior to the AP Poll. The Coaches Poll dead? Maybe, but the AP Poll is long since buried, and not a moment too soon. The only thing most journalists see is the buffet table in the press box of their local team. If they watch ten games a year, it's a stretch. The closest most of these guys ever came to a ball of any ki ...(more)
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July 24, 2009 4:57 pm
Other than your lame interjection of politics, Mr. Dodd, your blog entry was good.  Coaches' polls are always going to be biased toward the coaches' own self-interests and knowledge, which during a season is pretty well limited to conference mates and actual opponents.  I have long been in favor of getting rid of the coaches' poll. 

But the writers' poll is goofy too.&
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July 25, 2009 3:48 pm
   So Spurrier admitting (he isnt the first) that he doesnt fill out all his ballots on things like pre season conference voting means the Coaches Poll is dead?  Way to create a sensationalistic title to bring attention to something that will be long forgotten about 3 months from now.   Spurrier not filling out that ballot means nothing.   That vote meant nothing ...(more)
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July 25, 2009 4:02 pm
that are relevent enough to even have a ranking system. I mean when is college football going to see the writing on the wall. AP doesnt count toward BCS, the coaches poll will soon be the same, so what will decide. I think its safe to say that we are at a crossroads now and if college football doesnt wake up they run the risk of .....well Id say being irrelevent but that would never happen for me. ...(more)
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July 25, 2009 5:08 pm
The AP poll is just as suspect and open to bias and favoritism as the coaches poll.   Who is to say AP votes aren't influenced by their peers or family members?   Personally, I put more stock in the coaches poll than any of the other polls especially the CBS one.   Pretty much any one who is a fan of the game and follows it weekly is good enough for any of the polls o ...(more)
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July 24, 2009 6:00 pm
Since Spurrier was force to change his vote, I guess freedom of speech died today! So much for a coach voting for who they want, it has become what the media wants and the school with the most money wants! What a joke! Also I was so happy that Utah's coach voted his team number one after the season end as he was the only undefeated team, but thanks to the BCS, he can't play in it! I'm glad to see ...(more)
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July 24, 2009 4:44 pm
anymore than past miscues.  I find it hard to believe that Spurrier's decision is more damaging to the credibility and reputation of the coaches poll than Pinkel's decision to vote undefeated Utah 15th last season.  First of all, even ESPN had a debate whether Tebow or Snead were better SEC quarterbacks.  Don't get me wrong, I do think it is ridiculous that Spurrier failed to vote f ...(more)
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July 24, 2009 9:15 pm
We always knew Steve Spurrier was one of the biggest jerks in the college ranks. And as long as he's been writing, Dennis Dodd is an awful fraud of a writer. One D'bag with little credibility writing about another D'bag coach who is one of the more idiotic, over-rated coaches who lives off his success in the past. Counting his time in Washington, what the heck has Steve Spurrier done in 7+ years? ...(more)
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July 24, 2009 7:18 pm
This is not some big secret and has been talked about since the inception of the Coaches' poll.  There have been numerous interviews with coaches who say they don't have time to keep up with USC or Ohio State games if they coach in the SEC or the ACC.  To be honest, some geek carrying the coach's luggage probably knows more about teams across the country than an NCAA coach.  The tim ...(more)
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July 24, 2009 4:37 pm
Does it really matter if it is the Head coach or the SID that votes? It's a farce anyway. Giving a vote to those who are directly affected by the vote immidiately discredits the poll. There is no possible way for a coach to place a completely impartial vote. How are they going to see all 119 teams each week? Are they going to watch highlights on ESPN or CBS? Well obviously those networks aren't bi ...(more)
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July 25, 2009 2:49 pm
The  Air Force (Lackland Human  Factors researchers) have dealt extensively with this problem--the problem of making judgments affecting the careers of the military.  They developed a system called JUDGMENT ALANYSIS (JAN).  I adapted their system so it could be used to capture the rating policy of each  judge (which yielded a RELIABILITY  INDEX FOR EACH ...(more)
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July 25, 2009 1:37 pm
You know why? It has as much credibility left as Dick Cheney and his stance on those weapons of mass destruction. 
Why on earth would a sports writer throw in his personal(liberal) point of view into this article. Now we gotta worry about a lefty providing sports information? When will this stop?

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July 25, 2009 7:14 am
I'm not sure why the author of this article seems so suprized.  It's a poll.  When you have a poll, it will be some bias (or alot of it!).  The computer rankings are even worse in my opinion because there is no way for a computer to put a value on intangibles.  So, in essence, the entire system is flawed, but then again, this is not really news either.
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July 24, 2009 6:31 pm
who cares about the preseason all SEC vote in the first place

First, Its basically taking the top returning player at every position, and it in no way reflects how well a player will do for the upcoming season, its just a prediction. The fact that this story even hit the news is a complete joke. It is a complete attempt from the media just to get Tebow as much attention as possible. The
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