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Night in Death Valley summons noise, humidity, even ghosts

It has turned the knees of All-Americans to goo. It has caused coaches to lose their coaching minds.

It only happens at a special space at a special time. LSU can be up, LSU can be down, but LSU's best weapon remains ... sunset.

Actually, it's what comes after the sun sets. Dark. That combined with Tiger Stadium on a Saturday night is something loud, strange and holy. There is noise in stadiums everywhere from Eugene to Tuscaloosa. Only in Baton Rouge is there a living, breathing being lurking in its grand, old stadium.

"Tiger Stadium is haunted," former LSU player John Ed Bradley said, "and all the ghosts favor the home team."

This is an issue this week because for the first time in 50 years, two top five teams in Tiger Stadium kick off -- when else? -- at night on Saturday. No. 1 Florida and No. 4 LSU meet in what, for now, is the biggest game of the college football season if for no other reason than recent history. Since 2006, the winner of this game has won the national championship.

LSU has won its first five, rising from No. 11 in the preseason to within shouting distance of No. 1. The Tigers are 99th in offense and won last week at Georgia with the help of a bogus excessive celebration penalty. That seems laughable at LSU where every game involves excessive celebration. LSU has won 32 consecutive Saturday night games and is 45-4 at night this decade.

"There's a reason," said the man responsible for 21 of 32 wins, "to believe there won't be enough tickets to go around."

That's Les Miles' cheeky idea of hyperbole. LSU's coach will have enough on his mind figuring out how to beat the defending national champions who also sport the nation's longest winning streak at 14 games. The last time these teams met in Baton Rouge two years ago, the third-largest crowd in Tiger Stadium history witnessed Miles losing said coaching mind.

That night "Crazy Les" went for it five times on fourth down, making all five in a 28-24 win. When tailback Jacob Hester scored the winning touchdown with 69 seconds left, it seemed like heaven, hell and, certainly, the bayou came undone.

Later in that season, Demetrius Byrd caught the winning touchdown against Auburn with a second left in a night game. Once again, something close to an earthquake shook the Mississippi River flood plain in a 30-24 win.

"I suspect there will be some similarities [on Saturday]," Miles said.

Those are mere numbers. Feel the mood that Tiger Stadium creates at night. Bear Bryant once called Tiger Stadium "the worst place in the world for a visiting team." P.A. announcer Dan Borne drops the checkered flag on 92,000 maniacs when he proclaims, "It's Saturday night in Death Valley ..." shortly before kickoff.

Games were moved to night time decades ago to keep them out of the oppressive Louisiana heat of the day. So why does it feel more humid at night? Taste the andouille and fried gator -- yes, the actual animal -- as you maneuver through a massive tailgate. Stick your arm in that cage and try to pet Mike the Tiger as he is paraded around the field. On second thought ...

Someone once compared the noise level in Tiger Stadium to a 747 taking off or a Who concert.

Those two events are background noise compared to the real thing. You actually need earplugs when watching football.

"What's it worth on the scoreboard? I don't know. It's worth something," former LSU coach Gerry DiNardo said. "It puts points on the board. If they've done everything right going into it, the defense will play better and the offense will play better and it will be reflected on the scoreboard."

The mortal lock that was Florida for the national championship is now vulnerable not only because of Tim Tebow's concussion, but also because Tiger Stadium is going to bring it. In the 2007 meeting, Tebow threw for two touchdowns and ran for another but was only 12 of 26 passing.

"If it's [noise] a factor, Tim won't play ..., " Urban Meyer said considering the effect on his banged up quarterback. "If noise is bothering Tim, Tim won't be in the game. That's means he's still symptomatic."

If Tebow can't play, the alternative is redshirt sophomore John Brantley, who would be making his first start.

"The issue becomes obviously the crowd noise," DiNardo said. "The not-so-obvious is the 40-second clock within the crowd noise. That's what becomes the most difficult to manage. You know the old expression the game slows down (for a veteran)? The 40-second clock won't slow down Saturday night."

The last time Florida came to Tiger Stadium it was greeted by an amped-up, capacity crowd. (Getty Images)  
The last time Florida came to Tiger Stadium it was greeted by an amped-up, capacity crowd. (Getty Images)  
Fans actually get angry when a game is scheduled during the day.

"What are we doing?" DiNardo said mimicking the typical reaction, "selling out [to television]?"

The last Saturday night loss at home was in 2002, 31-0 to Alabama. The Tigers are 56-10 at home overall this decade, 45 of those victories have been at night.

In a way, not much has changed since the last top five matchup in Baton Rouge. In 1959, with LSU coming off a national championship, Billy Cannon scored the only touchdown of the game against No. 3 Ole Miss in a 7-3 win that propelled the Cannon to the Heisman Trophy.

Cannon broke seven tackles on the twisting, turning 89-yard punt return that clinched the Heisman for him and a legacy for LSU. Those who were there still talk about how loud the 67,000 fans were that night.

"Once you win the national championship, the fans are never satisfied until you do that again," said Joe Dean, LSU's legendary former athletic director. "Now you gotta win it, you know? If you don't reach that level, there are always some fans on these talk shows."

That kind of sums up where we are this week. The program has won two titles this decade and is in the top five this week but you'd never know it. The insanely loyal LSU fans, or at least a portion of them, are hung up on the sputtering offense or a slow start by tailback Charles Scott or the near upset at Mississippi State.

Or all of the above.

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If not for an excessive celebration penalty against Georgia that has taken up the SEC consciousness this week, the historic matchup might not be taking place. Now that it has, you want to talk excessive celebration? Show up about 4 p.m. on Friday when they open the campus to RVs.

Why not earlier? Believe it or not, there has to be some room for the actual purpose of the university.

"There are students here," LSU play-by-play man Jim Hawthorne said. "People here know how to have a good time. Once you begin to have success, it kind of snow balls into mythical proportions."

There is nothing mystical about it when you consider good teams play well whatever time of day. In 1992, a Colorado State team with Meyer as its receivers coach won at LSU 17-14. That was against a Curley Hallman team that went 2-9. As recently as 2000, Alabama-Birmingham beat Nick Saban's first team 13-10 at night.

"We went down there and beat them and the stadium wasn't a factor," Meyer said. "That's because the team wasn't very good. What makes LSU [is] the environment and the fans and those guys wearing the jerseys. They're really good players."

Good players who somehow get worse during the day. The Tigers are only 11-6 in daylight at home during this decade and 21-25-3 since 1960. So let the big orange blob in the sky take its place below the horizon. That seems to cure all of LSU's deficiencies.

"I know that LSU has looked sluggish so far this year. I know its offense hasn't pulled it together yet," Bradley said via e-mail.

A noted author and journalist, Bradley was a center on the 1979 team who wrote a memoir of his time at the school, It Never Rains In Tiger Stadium.

"We're going to see a different Tiger team come Saturday night -- a very different team. The crowd will be insane. And we'll see the LSU players respond the way they usually do when it gets dark down on the bayou."

 
 

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October 9, 2009 3:00 pm
Rignt now there seems to be more questions than answers for this game.  Will Teabow play?  What would be the outcome if Teabow hadn't been hurt? IF LSU wins, will it be said they won because Teabow was hurt?  Do the Tigers have a chance?  
  
Most times when a particular action or ongoing type of success is exposed and talked a
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October 9, 2009 3:57 pm
Okay everyone get Florida off of it's rediculously large pedistal.  Yes They are an Excellent football team and deserve their number one ranking.  The are more sound on offense than LSU RIGHT NOW!! but hold on there, first off Tennessee showed everyone how to beat Florida, it's the defense that has questions for florida.  A good rushing attack can keep them off of the field an ...(more)
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October 9, 2009 1:47 am
Bear Bryant might have made the quote in the story about how tough "Death Valley" was, but if he said it he said it for others to buy.  He had no problem with Alabama visiting LSU during his tenure.  His teams went 8 - 1 while at Bama and I think all of the games were at night with the exception of 1973 when both were undefeated late in the season and the game was a national br ...(more)
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October 10, 2009 4:45 pm
I think a lot of people have been thinking that Florida will drop tremendously with a "beat up" Tebow. What people fail to realize is that now the Florida RBs will be able to make their impact on the game more consistantly. Moody, Rainey, and Demps will each see plenty of carries. Tebow won't have to do it all, and the Gators will be better for it.

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October 8, 2009 1:43 pm
Haunted, shmaunted.

If it truly is haunted, the consider the Gators the GhostBusters.

All 90,000+ fan-filled SEC stadiums are loud and playing at night when you have to adjust your eyes from daylight to man-made light affects every player everywhere.

The game starts after dark. Sunset is at 6:39 Baton Rouge time. The game starts with the primary light source being
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October 9, 2009 7:12 am

I spent the first 25 years of my fifty-five plus years in Florida, including the four years as student in Gainesville.  I've been a place or two, since I left home for the service.  Florida owns the franchising rights in this country for heat and humidity.   So don't count on the Gators wilting in the weather. 

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October 8, 2009 1:54 pm
The first time he said that LSU won because of an excessive celebration call on UGA, I thought I read it wrong and kept reading.  The second time he said it... "were it not for an excessive celebration penalty on UGA, LSU might not be in this position..."  I had to stop reading.  For one thing, UGA lead in that game 1 out of 60 minutes.  Anyone that watched the game a ...(more)
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October 8, 2009 8:24 pm
I ahte the way the tricks of media ploys play into everything, it boils down to Vegas for spread numbers. Tebow playing or not, the Defense can stand up against LSU's rebuilding Offense. Have they done anything on Offense yet?...dont worry...Ill wait while you look.........Ok. Found nothing right. Exactly.
Florida wins this game by stoping any throws made on the Secondary, and Keep LSU's ru
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October 8, 2009 7:31 pm
Everyone said the same thing about the "white out" at Penn State earlier this year and how Iowa wouldn't pull the upset because Penn State doesn't lose at home during night games either. Well we all saw that miserable performance.
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October 8, 2009 5:27 pm
Gotta love the media. They are hyping the game at LSU, hoping beyond hope that somehow, someway, somebody will derail the Tebow Express. Good luck. Now we have to hear about the Baton Rouge "mystique" and all of that other gibberish. Here's what Vegas thinks about playing a Saturday night at LSU....Gators favored by 8. Yeah, that's right, even with all that "mystique", Vegas th ...(more)
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October 9, 2009 8:07 am
I will give LSU's Death Valley its due - it is a tough place to play at night.  I wonder if Dennis Dodd has ever been to The Swamp at night?  Death Valley and The Swamp are equal when it comes to night games.
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October 8, 2009 5:38 pm
Don't forget to mention that Brett Favre is a liar.  He said that the YMCA in Green Bay is haunted (no kidding).  He lived there, at the YMCA, for a few years, before his wife made him buy a house.  Now she has him wearing pink shoes and T-shirts. 
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October 8, 2009 5:20 pm
I know alot of trash talking goes with these big games in the SEC  ... it actually makes it alot of fun to talk stats   give opinions...  mostly i am happy to be able to see big games in the SEC that really help shape the outcome of the national title  .. dont take them for granite  look at how many programs went from the top to just a  blip on the radar now.... ...(more)
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October 8, 2009 12:32 pm
If its brantley or tebow , i think fla can win. LSU defense isnt the best and even in garbage time brantley has proven to run the offese pretty well. Im sure Urban the perfectionist will have him ready togo. So, if timmy does play i see fla rolling thru one of its toughest opponents each year on the way to SEC showdown with bama'.
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October 8, 2009 12:00 pm
I went to school at Florida.  I am a Florida Gator to the core.  I do say The Swamp is the toughest (of course the bias).  I will also say that I've been to every SEC venue with the exception of Starkville, MS (Mississippi State).  The stadium is in a bowl.  It's loud and the noise reverberates.   It's deafening at times and the pregame is awesome to boot.  ...(more)
 
 
 
 
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