Updated May 7
It was bound to happen. Most of the dialogue this week had to do with my expansion series that ran a couple of weeks ago. Mention religion, politics or expansion, and that generates the feedback.
Keep it coming because I've got a feeling that this stuff is just starting.
I don't care how many times these schools try to stack the deck, the same old teams with the same old money are using monopolistic tactics that have been illegal since the robber baron days. Go to a playoff and every Division I school will have their chance to be No. 1. The player on the field will decide who is better, not a silver spoon trustee before the season starts.
Sam I Am:
You have hit on a slice of this subject that hasn't been explored.
If you thought guys like Sen. Orrin Hatch had issues with the BCS, what's going to happen if there are four 16-team super conferences? That would seem to exclude (even more) the have nots like Boise State, TCU, Utah, etc.
At least in the BCS, there is a chance that those schools can play for a national championship. How are the super conferences going to accommodate the non-BCS schools when they own everything -- TV, cable, best players, the championship?
The Fisher article you wrote was probably the best article you've ever written. Good stuff.
It only took me 30 years, which reminds me ... ya'll are invited over for the 30th anniversary of the day I turned pro (June 10, 1980, at the Sherman (Texas) Democrat) next month.
We're going to have barbeque, music, a live tiger, Shaquille O'Neal on a live tiger. Be there.
Dennis, I was intrigued by your Airplane Conference notion, and began thinking about how the Big East and Mountain West could join forces to create an Airplane Conference.
However, in working on the idea, I came up with a better conference. Call it the Big Mountain or Mountain West or Mountain 12. I think it makes sense. TCU, SMU, New Mexico, New Mexico State, Colorado, Colorado State, Utah, BYU, Boise State, Idaho, Nevada, UNLV.
It is a 12-team conference set up in a Pac-10 mold with natural rivalries. It should easily get a BCS automatic bid and with the existing Mountain Network, control media markets in Dallas, Denver, SLC, Las Vegas, Idaho and New Mexico, all fast growing areas. Any chance of this happening? Note, I think CU will be willing to leave the Big 12 if Missouri goes to the Big Ten. The domino effect will cause the Big 12 to break apart, and this strikes me as a good option for CU.
You had me until you wrote, "It should easily get a BCS automatic bid." Um, no. I see two programs there that the networks would be interested in televising -- Colorado and BYU. Your model strikes me as a Conference USA with mountains.
Maybe call it The Big Hike, but without a BCS bid.
Dennis: Enjoyed your series of articles on conference expansion. Everything seems very reasonable to me, except your alignment of the PAC-10. Why is the WORLD do you believe that Wyoming and Air Force would be even included in these new super conferences, let alone the PAC-10!!! Crazy!
If you have a good reason for it, I would love to hear it 'cause I can't figure it out. Literally everything else in your arrangement of teams makes sense, except those two schools. I'm baffled.
First, at this point it's impossible to be wrong in this argument because everything is on the table.
Second, please tell me who would replace Air Force and Wyoming with? Boise State? No way, doesn't bring a market or basketball. Texas? No way. That ship has sailed. Texas isn't shipping its minor sports teams to Pullman, Wash.
The problem for the Pac-10 is if it wants to go to 16 (an unlikely prospect) it has to invite somebody. Like I said, it's impossible to be wrong right now but the Pac-10 probably has the hardest time of any of the major conferences expanding to 16. The more likely scenario is the Big 12, SEC, Big Ten and ACC going to 16. The Pac-10 could stay at 10 and form a television partnership with the Big 12.
Dennis, I'm sorry your team has less fans at their spring practice than a teabag rally in D.C.! I'm 62 and I LOVE going to a 'Bama spring practice called the A-Day game.
I take my grandsons and my granddaughter and my son and son-in-law go and we make a day of it in Tuscaloosa. Unlike some people, we don't take the game seriously or the winner or how long they play. We enjoy seeing the new kids, like Phillip Sims, and the probable starters for next year. We're 'Bama fans and we love seeing the Tide whenever we can. Next year we will go over 100,000 (in attendance) if it doesn't rain, hard! And we don't care if they make us pay $20, kids free of course, to watch the Tide roll (in spring practice)!
In other words, IMHO, you are jealous, way outta line and too full of your biased self!
I'm sorry, I mistook you for someone with a life.
Dennis- Why not Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M to the SEC? Why not add the states of Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC? Who has a more storied program than Oklahoma and Texas? Seems like a perfect match for the SEC.
It is and it has been discussed. The SEC could surpass the Big Ten with that kind of a move.
Dennis, looking over your 5 Mega-Conferences, I think that you have made at least one mistake with the Pac-16. There is no way that Wyoming gets an invite over Boise State. The Idaho market is more than 4 times as big as the Wyoming market. And it seems like that is what this is all about, how much can conferences get from cable companies for their product.
Most of the MWC would like to dump Wyoming and add Boise State for the same reason and for competitive reasons as well. I can't see the PAC-16 being any different.
The Mountain West would be "forced" to take Boise State if it comes to that. As I mentioned above, Boise State has a football program that is good right now. Nothing else. It brings nothing in terms of market or the other major sport -- basketball. That's why I left Boise, and the Mountain West, out of the five major conferences.
Keep writing, though. I'm not saying you're wrong, just explaining myself and I love having these debates.