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Hate Mail: It's not you, it's blasphemy

Hank Aaron set the career home run record with grace and humility, overcoming hateful racists with a sweet temperament and relentless power. Then he stayed above the fray when nuked-up Barry Bonds was stalking his record. No surprise -- that's Hank. Always classy. Always positive.

For his next positive contribution to baseball, I have a suggestion for Aaron:

Stop talking.

Did Hammerin' Hank whiff this time? (Getty Images)  
Did Hammerin' Hank whiff this time? (Getty Images)  
Stop talking about the steroid list of 2003. Stop asking for the release of names, said to be 104 in all, of players who failed the steroid tests administered by baseball in 2003. That goes for Hank Aaron and for any fans, media and even players who are weary of the slow trickle of names -- first Alex Rodriguez, then Sammy Sosa, now Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz -- and want those cheating players busted in one final tidal wave of shame.

Stop talking.

Think, for the love of God. Think.

This is the problem, of course. Nobody thinks for themselves. People just accept the thinking of others as fact, which makes me wonder how anyone made it to this continent in the first place. According to the thinking of others, the world was flat. You couldn't get from Spain to America.

Well, here we go again. You can't go from here (the unending steroid era) to there (closure) by releasing all 104 names from that 2003 list of drug cheats. It won't happen. But people think it will, because people aren't thinking.

Here's what Aaron said this week in an interview with the Associated Press.

"I wish for once and forever that we could come out and say we have 100-and-some names, name them all and get it over and let baseball go on," Aaron said. "I don't know how they keep leaking out. I just wish that they would name them all and get it over with."

Let baseball go on? Get it over with?

This will never be over with. Ever. Releasing those names won't end anything, because it will never end. The speculation, the rumors, the leaking ... there will always be another name, another cheater. Don't you see that?

Look, you remember the first, and so far only, big-time list of names that busted baseball's steroids cheaters, right? It was the Mitchell Report in December 2007. That report listed 89 players.

Guess who wasn't on there?

A-Rod. Sosa. Ramirez. Ortiz.

See my point? The 2003 list won't end squat. Because the 2003 list, just like the Mitchell Report, won't include every cheater. Some will have cycled off steroids just before those 2003 tests. Others will have avoided detection because of the sophistication of the specific steroid they took. And so forth.

That's the practical side of this issue, but there's another side. An ethical side. The players agreed to take those steroid tests in 2003 for one reason, and one reason only -- because the results would be kept anonymous. Those were the rules of engagement, and they were agreed upon by both sides even with both sides knowing there were cheaters in their midst.

The tests were agreed upon because of their anonymity, and to change the rules now, in mid-stream, would be unethical. It's wrong. Your curiosity to know the names on the list -- and look, I'm as curious as anyone -- doesn't outweigh the ethical violation of releasing those names. It's the same thing with the Erin Andrews hotel tape: Your curiosity to see what she looks like naked (again, guilty) doesn't change the fact that you don't have the right.

So don't listen to Hank Aaron. Don't listen to the bleating of baseball writers, either, because good grief can baseball writers bleat. The only group of people more illogically self-righteous than baseball writers are church leaders. (Both groups have exceptions. And you know who you are.)

Don't listen to active players, either, when they ask for the release of the 104 names. At best they're misguided, and at worst they're lying. By asking for the list, a guilty player could be trying to come across as innocent -- would a guilty player ask for those names? -- without worrying that the union will call his bluff and actually approve the release. It's tactically a smart move, but only if everyone falls for it. So don't fall for it.

Last week, Reds pitcher Bronson Arroyo volunteered that he took Androstenedione when he was with Boston in 2003. Arroyo then went a significant step farther and said he stopped taking Andro after hearing that it was oftentimes made with traces of the steroid Winstrol. And those hypothetical traces of Winstrol, Arroyo said, could have landed himself on the list. See, he doesn't know who's on the list, but he knows he could be.

Arroyo is confessing, in other words. Confessing before he gets caught. It's a brilliant move, and it might even be honest. Then again, he could be lying. The truth could be this: He took Winstrol in 2003, he knows he took it, and he's afraid his name is on that list.

This will never be over. Ever. And the truth is, baseball couldn't handle the truth. Neither could the average baseball fan. You don't want to know how many players were on the juice before those 2003 tests made a dent in things. You don't. Trust me.

For some reason, and there's a point to this, radio shows like to call me for my opinion. Well, I know the reason. You see the way I write, right? Imagine me on radio. No delete key. No editor reading over my shoulder. It's me, unfiltered. Well, I bring that up for a reason: For years, radio shows have asked me to name one player, just one, who would stun me if he were caught using steroids.

Every time, I say the same name. It's got to be a skinny guy, I say. A skinny guy whose game isn't predicated on power. And only one name comes to mind, but this name always came to my mind. I felt it was bullet-proof.

His name was Bronson Arroyo.

This will never be over.

 
 

Talk Back
Reputation:91
Level:All-Star
Since:May 31, 2009

August 7, 2009 11:12 am
Hank is right on both counts, "the list" being released and Pete being in the Hall of Fame. People have posted saying your an idiot, an most times I see it as just a difference of opinion. But this time I see the idiocy of your thinking Doyel. Telling a Icon of the game to "stop talking" is stepping over the line. As you say "Hank Aaron set the career home run record with grace and humility, ...(more)
Reputation:91
Level:All-Star
Since:Nov 26, 2007

August 6, 2009 6:50 pm
Doyel, in reading the style of your writing--"with no delete button"--I am reminded of a wooden spoon.  Simply a utensil used to stir the great pot of sports when the flame gets hot.  It is unfortunate, because so many of your views start out in the right place. 

Remember not so long ago there was a rather large media frenzy over a certain videotape in a certai
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Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Nov 29, 2006

August 7, 2009 8:41 pm
Releasing the 104 names may not close the door, but it would certainly go a long way toward that end. Expose ALL of the names on the list. Why let a few dangle in the wind of public shame, while a hundred others hide like cowards in the shadows? Aaron is 100% correct on this one. Revealing over one hundred names of cheaters would have a monstrously huge impact. The names that are on the list would ...(more)
Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Sep 4, 2006

August 6, 2009 4:02 pm
A reliable source at the Commissioner's Office should leak the "real" list to every major news outlet. Except each one would get a different list. Then, for the ensuing weeks, leak conflicting reports about which list was bogus and which was real. And for the duration, Bud Selig simply decries the leaks, vowing to get to the bottom of all this (while really doing what he does best - noth ...(more)
Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Dec 12, 2006

August 6, 2009 1:46 pm
If baseball was serious, they would update their testing to close loopholes, exexute the tests and remove the offenders. Ongoing. They don't want that. They only do what they are forced to do either by law or media pressure. If there were no steroids in sports, modern sports fans (those born after 1979) would be bored to tears. Testing is an easy fix (really easy) but money always wins over integr ...(more)
Reputation:86
Level:All-Star
Since:May 31, 2009

August 7, 2009 7:32 am
Doyel, you failed to mention the part where Aaron also mentioned that Pete Rose should be reinstated into baseball...

The reason why this is important, and the relevance of the entire statement is that what Aaron is saying is that the only way baseball can move forward is to stop trying to hide what has happened to hurt the sport of the course of the history of the sport.
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Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 8, 2008

August 7, 2009 11:32 am
 Those who believe “Columbus” proved the world was not flat are completely wrong.(such as Doyel -who clearly stated to think before taking ones thoughts as truth) Everybody knew that the world was a sphere by the time Columbus was born, and everybody already knew that you could sail west to get to India.
 Nobody ever considered the world to be flat. T
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Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Jun 25, 2007

August 6, 2009 6:30 pm
Somewhere in the recesses of my mind sticks a memory that there were players who were planning to NOT take the drug test back in 2003 because a refusal was going to count as a positive test.  In fact, a part of the memory seems to think that the White Sox may have been a team that was going to hold out en masse.  Don't hold me to this, Gregg, but it could be worth researching.
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Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Oct 22, 2008

August 6, 2009 3:58 pm
All 500 of the Baseball players that took the test back in 2003, especially the 104 that tested positive were DUMBASSES.  What were the 104 that tested positive thinking.  Did they really think this would never be leaked out.  Someone is trying to ruin Baseball.  I know I won't watch it anymore.  If a drug addict gets out of prison on parole and starts using again, they do ...(more)
Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 19, 2006

August 6, 2009 11:18 am

There is absolutely no reason this list should not be made public.  An ethical violation?  The names are being arbitrarily leaked anyway so the code of ethics is already broken in this case; irrepairable in fact.  Anytime a player from that decade does anything "great" in baseball they have to continuously worry about their name being leaked for steroids.  If the l ...(more)

Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Apr 29, 2007

August 6, 2009 4:38 pm
Look, Selig TOLD the players if they could go ONE YEAR without shooting up like usual, the good times for all would keep rolling. He'd keep the supply lines open and they'd keep shooting up from now til doomsday. But the union knew if it asked the players to simply go ice clean in order to keep under the 5% threshold, the players would think that meant everyone BUT them. So reportedly the pla ...(more)
Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Nov 7, 2006

August 6, 2009 3:39 pm
So because Hank Aaron, one of the most genuine guys in baseball history, wants to have the names of cheaters out there, he should shut his mouth?  Do you know how bad it must feel to know that a record you got hate mail and threats over was broken by a guy who was juicing, and yet never got banned from the game? 
Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Mar 20, 2008

August 6, 2009 1:46 pm
Until MLB releases the names of the dirty 104 players, fans like myself will think that baseball is hiding something from us.  We need to have full disclosure to regain trust in the integrity of the game.  Baseball has proven it can no longer police itself.  This can't be about protecting some of the current players.  It is about the institution of America's Game, from Abner Do ...(more)
Reputation:88
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 13, 2008

August 6, 2009 12:33 pm
Whether the names are released or not, it will still be an ongoing thing. So why not release them? I am going to believe that Albert Pujols was and is on roids. Even if they say all the names and he isn't on there, i will still believe he is on them. This is the state that baseball is in. Guilty even if proven innocent! I think not releasing them sends the wrong message.
Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 27, 2008

August 8, 2009 1:21 pm
   Hey Doyel, nobody thinks that releasing all of the names on the list will end the steroid era in baseball and you know it.  You know that's not what Hank Aaron thinks as well but you write it any way.  Why?  Because you have no interesting opinions so you just say things that that you know aren't true in attempt to annoy people.  You like to think of yourself as th ...(more)
 
 
 
 
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