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The $1,701 Bottle of Water

Posted on: September 22, 2009 9:40 pm
Edited on: September 22, 2009 9:43 pm
 
Cleveland Browns head coach Eric Mangini is widely regarded as a disciplinarian in most league circles. There's nothing wrong with a little discipline in today's NFL - especially with the pampered state of the professional athlete.

However, there are times when a little discipline goes too far.

According to Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports as reported per Profootballtalk.com , Eric Mangini fined an unnamed Browns player the league minimum of $1,701.00 for taking a bottle of water without properly paying for it.

"The rules are clearly laid out," Mangini said in response to the situation.

"I don't ask them to do anything anyone in society isn't asked to do."

There are two ways to look at the situation.

From the coaches' perspective, there's no reason not to pay when you take something. The rules have been explained and players should understand what is and is not available to them. Mangini is likely trying to establishing a precedent that the team will remember for years to come.

From a player's perspective, this is just petty. This seems like an instance of Mangini being overbearing and authoritative.

And I agree.

There is absolutely no reason to enforce such a petty rule. The correct way to handle such a situation would be to explain the rules to the player and demand he pay the $2.00 for the water.



The bigger picture here is not good for the Browns.

Instances like this only harm league-wide perception of Eric Mangini and the Cleveland Browns. Former players criticized Eric Mangini saying he takes all the fun out of winning .

There have been reports of agents sterring their players away from Cleveland. Key personnel claim Mangini is too tough, and incidents like this won't help.

Free agency for Braylon Edwards among others is rapidly approaching, and news like this only hurts the re-signment effort.

Mangini could get away with this if the Browns were winning. They're not.

He needs to ease up, otherwise no one will buy anything he's selling.

Comments

Since: Sep 22, 2009
Posted on: September 27, 2009 7:23 pm
 

The $1,701 Bottle of Water

I am done with Mangina. Even the CBS dolts asked how he even got the job. We have another regime coming and I cannot wait. Hopefully this doesn't take 3 years. I am DONE with him. This is absolutely embarrasing football and even the behind the scenes stuff is embarrasing. Maybe Savage can get him a job in the broadcasting booth.



Since: Jun 30, 2008
Posted on: September 23, 2009 6:40 pm
 

The $1,701 Bottle of Water

why aren't bottles of water available to the players for free? The players get meal stipends, and I understand that the players make a lot of money, but I would just assume that the teams make water available for free. There is free water available to the players.

In fact, any combination of food or drink is free to the players.

NFL kitchens are like huge buffet rooms. If a player can think it up, the cook will make it for them. Obviously there are restrictions on nutrition, but if you're within the guidelines, you can have anything you want.

This was a case of a player taking water from cooler B instead of cooler C.



Eric Mangini was probably frustrated with something or another and he decided to take it out on the player.

This shows a blatent abuse of power, and it's making him look like a bad guy.



Since: Oct 31, 2008
Posted on: September 23, 2009 6:40 pm
 

The $1,701 Bottle of Water

Where did this bottle come from? Did he go up into the stands and take it from a vendor?  In the locker room players have pay for water?  This is an absolute joke.  I can picture coolers of water, gatorade, and whatever just there for the players to drink when needed.  do they have to carry money with them on the field, Ive never heard of this even at the high school level.  We are talking about an Evian and the browns are getting thier butts kick all over the field.  Mangina is a loser I hope hes gone before week 8.  Maybe he should figure out how to score a touchdown instead of selling water to his crappy players. I miss the Cleveland Browns of old It was awesome watching them play back in the day. 



Since: Jun 30, 2008
Posted on: September 23, 2009 6:34 pm
 

The $1,701 Bottle of Water

A grown man, and a wealthy one at that - check the league minimum is you have any doubts, STEALS and suddenly the penalty is too harsh. I don't know the specifics behind this situation, but I doubt there was any malicious intent involved.

After a scorching hot practice in pads, I doubt the first thing a player is thinking about is which water tank to drink from.

Would Eric Mangini rather see that player collapse on the way back to get his wallet?

THIS IS WATER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

It's not like clothing or jewelry.

Here's an idea - turn off your computer, go to the first store you see.  Then pick something up and walk out without paying.  Post tomorrow and tell me if your arresting officer, the judge or your family think it's petty and that the store was being overbearing. If I walked out of the store with a $1.00 bottle of Aquifina water and the manager caught me, he'd make me return the water. The police would come, I'd get a warning on my record, and that's that.

The maximum for petty theft in the State of Ohio is $1,000.

Even by that standard, Mangini went too far.



Since: Jul 19, 2007
Posted on: September 23, 2009 4:59 pm
 

The $1,701 Bottle of Water

Just a question here...why aren't bottles of water available to the players for free? The players get meal stipends, and I understand that the players make a lot of money, but I would just assume that the teams make water available for free. Just throwing that out there...



Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: September 23, 2009 4:57 pm
 

The $1,701 Bottle of Water

At least they didn't throw the bottle of water at anybody.  Say, isn't Jacksonville coming into town this year?  Maybe they will hand out replica bottles to commemorate the event!  Nevermind, I don't think there will be anybody there to throw them this year! 

Anybody want any tickets for the JAX game?  half price, you can get them right now! 



Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: September 23, 2009 4:55 pm
 

The $1,701 Bottle of Water

Yup, I got to be thinking that the $25,000 fine he was levied by the league has to be making his players wonder if there are two sets of rules.  One for the head coach and another for his players.  Where is the authenticity and accountability on the part of the coach.  As I recall Mangini did not discuss the injury report or admit any wrong doing.  That is what a stand up coach would do, admit he made a mistake and move on.  If I missed the admission, then please correct me.

A couple of more episodes like these and I will start to believe the rumours that he is already losing the locker room and the players have tuned him out already.  Not a good sign.  But then again, I did not like the hire in the first place so I am be biased. 

We see even the Kansas City Chiefs appear to be competitive, Denver looks like they may have turned it around and last year it was Baltimore and Atlanta, both of which did it with rookie head coaches and rookie quarterbacks. 

Go Browns.  Coaches come and go, franchises rarely do.  Fans are fans forever.  (Until they die)...



Since: Nov 30, 2008
Posted on: September 23, 2009 4:53 pm
 

The $1,701 Bottle of Water

There is absolutely no reason to enforce such a petty rule. The correct way to handle such a situation would be to explain the rules to the player and demand he pay the $2.00 for the water.Are you serious? Mangini is not supposed to be their daddy. These are grown, hopefully intelligent men, and they do not need to be baby-sat.
I ABSOLUTELY approve.



Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: September 23, 2009 3:24 pm
 

The $1,701 Bottle of Water

So after the countless articles and posts I read attacking athletes for the sense of entitlement and failure to comply with the rules of society, it is now time to criticize a coach who held someone accountable.

A grown man, and a wealthy one at that - check the league minimum is you have any doubts, STEALS and suddenly the penalty is too harsh.

Yeah it's only a bottle of water, so what.  As stated the rules were laid out, he broke them and got fined.

Here's an idea - turn off your computer, go to the first store you see.  Then pick something up and walk out without paying.  Post tomorrow and tell me if your arresting officer, the judge or your family think it's petty and that the store was being overbearing.




Since: Jul 15, 2009
Posted on: September 23, 2009 1:52 pm
 

The $1,701 Bottle of Water

very interesting!

but stupid!

thank you sirbuttcheeks


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