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Purdue VS. Ohio State 2/17/2010

Posted on: February 17, 2010 8:48 pm
Edited on: February 17, 2010 8:54 pm
 

What can I say but..... WOW!

This was a great game, and for all those who say the Big10 isn't worth watching you are missing out on the best basketball in the nation. This game was physical, pounding, and precision all night long by both squads.

I am very impressed by Purdue, and the fact they never once trailed in the game on the road n a center we had never won at, and haven't won in Columbus since 1998. And, how about Coach Painter being only the thrid coach in the Big10 to ever win at everyones home court including his own! Purdue didn't show the same fire in the second half as the first, however they showed their talent and grit to hang on when clearly the Buckeyes had ALL the momentum! How about Keaton Grant finally showing up like all Boiler fans knew he could do at anytime. Did he ever pick the right time to show up! Kramer missed a key free-throw, but his defense is back to his high standards after hurting his ankle, and what about that block at the end... BTW Kramers head has to be killing him, did anyone else see him smash his head after that one layup? OUCH Jujuan Johnson was AWESOME and I am certainly glad he showed up this time unlike the first matchup. The only bad thing to say about JJ was the long distance shot he fired up late, which I thought was not needed.

Evan Turner in my mind is clearly the BEST player in the nation, and I am not being biased for Big10 country. He reminds me soo much of Kevin Durant when he played for Texas, and Ohio State will be a force to reckon with if they can get soem HELP for him! I am not an Ohio State follower so I can't critique them too much, but they showed plenty of heart and grit in both games agaisnt Purdue this year making remarkable come-backs in both. Just falling short in this one.

Both teams have only ONE lose @ home this year and how picture perfect is it that they did it to each other. Personnally I do not want to play Ohio State again, but I wish much luck come NCAA tourny time!

Boilers need to enjoy this win on the way home, but we have to stay focused on the game this weekend agaisnt those pesky Fighting Illini as they are still in the hunt. TIME TO PROTECT THE HOME COURT! The boilers have now beaten 4, that's right 4 teams in the top 10 rankings of the AP poll including Tennesse #9, Michigan State #10, Ohio State #9, and West Virginia #6. Tenn was on a neutral sight in the Paradise Jam. West Virginia was at Mackey, but was a complete domination. Both MSU and OSU was on the road in places where the Boilers hadn't won in over 10 years. Let's not also forget the the Win over top 25 ranked Wisconsin and Wake Forest this year, with the addition of what is now a HUGE road win @ Illinois before the Illini where considered in the Big10 race. Not exactly great wins when it comes to the RPIs, but Purdue also has 2 key road wins at Bloomington agaisnt IU and down in Alabama agaisnt the Tide. I honestly think Purdue deserves to be mentioned with Gary Parrish's favorite teams of Kansas, Kentucky, and Syracuse. But, if they continue to get less love, all is good becuase nothing can rattle Boiler Nation!

This has been a fantastic season, and by far the BEST Purdue team I have ever watched in my 20 years of being a fan.

Grizz

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Since: May 20, 2008
Posted on: February 20, 2010 1:10 am
 

Purdue VS. Ohio State 2/17/2010

Another factor that made this game close at the end, I think, was how the officials called it.  OSU ended up with only 13 fouls, which on a team that essentially only plays 5 players is a gift because they were able to keep their starters on the court.  We've seen games called much tighter, with ticky-tack hand-check fouls being called all the time, but not tonight.

I agree this made a huge difference when Ohio State plays, but I thought for the most part it was a decent officiated game. The only problem I had with it was when Evan Turner would go for a layup or lean in shot. There was about 5 straight possessions where there was a foul called when the contact was minimal at best for the play of basketball. I would say this is one of the perks of being a POY canidate.

That final minute also sped by.  How many times does a game turn into a foul-fest in the final minute?  Especially in some of the other conferences.  While I think Matta erred in not fouling Purdue quickly on their final possession, allowing a lot of clock to wind down, I appreciated that the game didn't become a foul shooting contest, just because I prefer to see players run plays.

I am not as hateful on the foul fest at the end of games, because it works at times. Obviously if the Boilers are up I hate it, but if they are down I want them to continue to do what is needed to get back in the game. There is a time to stop fouling, like down 3 possessions with 20 seconds left, but as long as the lead is only 6 anything can happen.

As for Thad's decision, it was actually made for him because of the score and time left. Purdue got there last possession with I think 45 seconds to go and only up 3. This means Ohio State is garunteed to get the ball back if the can rebound. His decision was to have faith in his defense to stop Purdue from scoring and tying it up. What actually confused me was Turner's decision to push the ball quickly for a layup with only 14 seconds left down 3 instead of just bringing it up and trying for the tie. I think this really cost them because they couldn't get set for a 3 point shot.

Another fortunate break was when Turner immediately gave up the ball on his final defensive board, putting the ball in Buford's hands.  I think we would have seen a very different ending had Turner kept it and pushed it up court himself.

I kind of addressed this above, but I agree a little bit. For Ohio State you wanted the ball or at least one shot to come from Turner. However, consider Turner played every single minute I believe, and was hounded all night by Barlow, Ljack, and Kramer he was showing clear signs of exhaustion. You could honestly tell from his shot selections and misses the last 5 minutes he was gassed, and I do believe this was a huge difference from what happened at Mackey where he sat for a good portion of the 1st half with foul trouble.

One final comment regarding the turnovers.  Final stats indicate Purdue had 17 turnovers, and a half dozen of them were throwaways on bad inbound passes.  Some really bad inbound passes.  We'll want to see that get fixed pronto!

I have actually been unhappy with this all season for Purdue, and I know it seems small, but it shows up in big games. I like Kramer taking the ball out, but people need to fight to get open more. I would rather see Hummel throwing the ball in, it seems he is most effective at this.

Thanks for the compliment, Grizz - would you believe I only went to ONE Purdue home game while I was there? (it was one of those Christmas-break games, I believe it was in 1989-90.  If I could only go back in time, sigh...!)  As for the enthusiasm, I don't believe the neighbors appreciated my screams and rants last tnight either, ha!
 @DanielK - you made a good observation - that last minute did fly by, barely enough time to catch your breath or look away.  But I agree, I liked the 'let them play' move, although I was waiting for OSU to call that timeout.  And speaking of, I can't believe we played, what? the last 7 or 8 mins with only ONE timeout left?  Talk about living dangerously!

NO, I can't believe you only went to one game. I am currently in college and I specifically didn't go to Purdue because there is no way I would EVER get any homework or studying done as I would be at every game for football and hoops. As for the neighbors they can get over it.... it's Boiler Ball!!! lol

As for the timeouts I agree this is playing with fire, however I think it is pointless to hang on to them if they are needed. And, for the most part every timeout Purdue took was needed or they could have lost the lead.

If there's any remaining concerns, it''s the one that's been stated for a long while now - and that is the tendency to let a large lead slip away.  Granted, a win is a win, and good teams just know how to win (even if there is some luck involved, ahem, KU and UK) - and yes, Purdue is a solidly good team.  And not every win has to be a blowout, but when you see 16 pts evaporate in the span of 5-10mins of play, that has to imply that a change in style must have occurred.  Then ask, why?  Step back, remember how you were playing just minutes ago, and resume.  It makes me fear for when we have a slow start and have to dig out of a hole.  Sure, we did it against Alabama, on the road, but do our guys have that in them to pull it off should they need to in the next few weeks?

I don't think this is as bad as it seems, evident in Sryacuse's win over G-twon the other day. If you think about it, it really shows the true power in the teams which made the comebacks. The OSU and MSU games where on the road, and as a Boiler fan you had to expect this push, and I actually think this shows a different skill level for Purdue then they have had in the past. The ability to hold onto and win a game after allowing the lead to dwindle down is a sign of true grit and maturity, something I am proud to say this team as a lot of. To also add why I think it had to do with being on the road, look at the West Virginia game at Mackey.... we got the lead.....extended it.... and kept it.

Boiler-Up, and let's keep this ride going!

Grizz




Since: Jan 23, 2009
Posted on: February 18, 2010 3:29 pm
 

Purdue VS. Ohio State 2/17/2010

Thanks for the compliment, Grizz - would you believe I only went to ONE Purdue home game while I was there? (it was one of those Christmas-break games, I believe it was in 1989-90.  If I could only go back in time, sigh...!)  As for the enthusiasm, I don't believe the neighbors appreciated my screams and rants last tnight either, ha!
 @DanielK - you made a good observation - that last minute did fly by, barely enough time to catch your breath or look away.  But I agree, I liked the 'let them play' move, although I was waiting for OSU to call that timeout.  And speaking of, I can't believe we played, what? the last 7 or 8 mins with only ONE timeout left?  Talk about living dangerously!

If there's any remaining concerns, it''s the one that's been stated for a long while now - and that is the tendency to let a large lead slip away.  Granted, a win is a win, and good teams just know how to win (even if there is some luck involved, ahem, KU and UK) - and yes, Purdue is a solidly good team.  And not every win has to be a blowout, but when you see 16 pts evaporate in the span of 5-10mins of play, that has to imply that a change in style must have occurred.  Then ask, why?  Step back, remember how you were playing just minutes ago, and resume.  It makes me fear for when we have a slow start and have to dig out of a hole.  Sure, we did it against Alabama, on the road, but do our guys have that in them to pull it off should they need to in the next few weeks?

Call me weak, but I'd rather we start with the big advantage, keep the opponent at bay, even if just by a few points, and play hard to win in the end.  Illinois will be a fun game, maybe not for my neighbors' sake, ha, but I do believe our guys can defend the home turf and as well, prove that, although good, Illinois is at the bottom of the top tier of teams.

OH, and now, go and beat those Spartans, Buckeyes!

Is it Saturday yet???

BOILER UP!!



Since: Feb 13, 2008
Posted on: February 18, 2010 1:40 am
 

Purdue VS. Ohio State 2/17/2010

Another factor that made this game close at the end, I think, was how the officials called it.  OSU ended up with only 13 fouls, which on a team that essentially only plays 5 players is a gift because they were able to keep their starters on the court.  We've seen games called much tighter, with ticky-tack hand-check fouls being called all the time, but not tonight.

That final minute also sped by.  How many times does a game turn into a foul-fest in the final minute?  Especially in some of the other conferences.  While I think Matta erred in not fouling Purdue quickly on their final possession, allowing a lot of clock to wind down, I appreciated that the game didn't become a foul shooting contest, just because I prefer to see players run plays.

Another fortunate break was when Turner immediately gave up the ball on his final defensive board, putting the ball in Buford's hands.  I think we would have seen a very different ending had Turner kept it and pushed it up court himself.

Positives out of negatives: Moore was was unable to shake his man a lot of the time tonight, but made up for it with a team high 5 assists.  Hummel had his least effective game of the year and the team still won.  Painter kept Barlow on the bench at the end of the game in favor of Grant, rather than repeat the scenarios that played out in the first OSU game at Mackey.

This team finds a way to deal with adversity.

One final comment regarding the turnovers.  Final stats indicate Purdue had 17 turnovers, and a half dozen of them were throwaways on bad inbound passes.  Some really bad inbound passes.  We'll want to see that get fixed pronto!



Since: May 20, 2008
Posted on: February 17, 2010 10:18 pm
 

Purdue VS. Ohio State 2/17/2010

BostonRF, it is truly sad that everyone can't act like an adult on these blogs.... namely the ejacks out there. Hopefully they will just be ignored, or put in their place. Thanks for posting, be sure to spread this post around.

BoilerBacker68, I love your passion. I was jumping up and down the entire second half, throwing the remote across the room, scaring the animals, lmao. It was a an absolute great game. The four point play is rare, and the fact Grant did it was a shocker. His shot has been sooo far off this year, I was pleasantly surprised when he showed his form of the last two years.

If Grant can start posting 3 or 4 baskets a game with a 3-pointer or two it will go a long way come March with our big-3 in Hummel, Moore, and JJ. And, you are dead on with Hummel, I am glad he didn't go off by him-self in this game, but his normal contributions would have probably kept the game in double digits. But, his key rebounds, screens, moving without the ball, and passes on offense leads to other big shots by JJ and Moore which is important.

I also loved Barlows hounding defense on Evan Turner. It's clear no one is going to shut him down, however you could tell he was tired the last 5 minutes of the game and he wasn't able to put the buckeyes ahead like he did at Mackey. I think this will be the biggest prblem for OSU come march because they lack depth and you know these kids are going to be tired after a long season and multiple back to back games.

Grizz




Since: Jan 23, 2009
Posted on: February 17, 2010 9:53 pm
 

Purdue VS. Ohio State 2/17/2010

Can you add another WOW??  I don't want to recap the game, but as I was watching it (delayed as I was watching it recorded), I took notes - Grant making a rare 4pt score, BIG...  Shooting 6-6 to start off the game?  WAY big...  Good rebounding in the first half, awesome defense to create some big OSU turnovers.  Hummel was a presence, yes, but he proved that he doesn't have to score like a beast to contribute.  (Still, it would have been a little insurance to see him have a bit more contributions to the bucket!  At least he scored with 8mins left.)  Johnson with 15pts in the first half?  Simply on fire...  And to think, through the entire game, we never relinquished the lead, going from 15 up to only up by 2....and to win by 3, whew!

Great post, Grizz - you're right, JJ showed some great agility and smarts out there - except for that long shot - his footing wasn't set, and I knew he shouldn't have gone for it... Kramer is showing his defensive heart again, and it's good to see it coming back.

And you have it right - I've said it as well - now, stay focused on the game in front of us.  Defend Keady Court and beat the Illini. Plain and simple.

How awesome to be in 2nd place in the Big 10 - we are in the driver's seat - we control our destiny.  We are no worse than a no.3 seed in the Big Dance, and could be in contention for - dare I say it? - a no. 1 seed.... again, WOW!

Now, I have to calm down and regain my voice once again!

BOILER UP!!



Since: Oct 25, 2009
Posted on: February 17, 2010 9:36 pm
 

Purdue VS. Ohio State 2/17/2010

Nice post. Too bad some of the a-holes on here can't be objective. When their team wins a game it is because they are the best and most underrated team in the country. When their team loses, it is because their team was never any good in the first place and were beaten by a team playing out their arse.


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