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The People's Poll: Week 16

Posted on: March 2, 2009 11:01 am
Edited on: March 2, 2009 2:58 pm

Welcome to the Week 16 People's Poll!     

The People's Poll is made up of 40+ College Basketball fans who want their opinions heard! Voters give their take over the weeks action on the main CBB board with the results tallied here every Monday. Each week's poll reflects games played through Sunday. If you'd like to check out each voters ballot, here you go. Even if you're not a regular voter, look for the People's Poll voting thread every week to give your take! You may end up in the poll!

So without further adieu.. I give you the Week 16 People's Poll! 

 1. (33) Connecticut (+1) 989 27-2          HR-1 LR-5          AP-1 CP-1 GP-1

"Obviously they belong here, they went to Marquette and beat them and held off a fisty Notre Dame teams and are back on top agian." -Hoosierguy1019

 2. (2) North Carolina (+2) 926 25-3          HR-1 LR-6          AP-2 CP-2 GP-4

"UNC...ok everyone sorry I just have had fun with UNC homers this week spouting off that even if they lose for the rest of the season they are still the most talented...p.s.: talent does not equal best." -Oneandonlystout

 3. (4) Pittsburgh (-2) 911 26-3          HR-1 LR-7          AP-3 CP-4 GP-2

"tough loss to Providence, but this season has been full of team's having random off games" -Canuck23

 4. (1) Memphis (+1) 830 26-3          HR-1 LR-20          AP-5 CP-3 GP-5

"I can't argue with their record, but I can argue that their best win is UAB.  They need more to be considered for a top seed in March." -Pittbaster

 5. Louisville (+1) 824 23-5          HR-3 LR-9          AP-6 CP-6 GP-6

"If I were The Ville I'd want to play in the same bracket as OU because they match up perfectly with them." -Badgers Ballers

 6. Oklahoma (-3) 816 26-3          HR-2 LR-13          AP-4 CP-5 GP-3

"I don't think they should be penalize for losing to 2 good teams without their best player" -Bksballer1129

 7. Michigan State (+2) 755 23-5          HR-2 LR-12          AP-8 CP-8 GP-8

"When fully healthy, probably one of the top 5 teams in the country, likely wont ever be fully healthy" -Alexraenos

 8. Duke (-1) 730 24-5          HR-5 LR-10          AP-7 CP-7 GP-7

"They beat Maryland and Virginia Tech, but its really very hard for them to get a win over FSU and North Carolina. I predict a loss this week." -Dcb12233

 9. Kansas (+5) 724 24-5          HR-2 LR-11          AP-9 CP-9 GP-9

"Impressive win over Oklahoma earlier and a throttling of Mizzou proves that they are worthy of a 2 seed." -Duke_goes_down

 10. Wake Forest (+3) 633 22-5          HR-5 LR-19          AP-10 CP-10 GP-10

"Still struggling to beat the lesser teams in the ACC, but when clicking on all cylinders they are a dangerous team." -Lobofan2003

 11. LSU (+6) 500 25-4          HR-2 LR-NR          AP-12 CP-11 GP-11

"The Tigers clinch the SEC regular season title with wins over Florida and Kentucky. This team is clearly the cream of the crop in a down year in the SEC, although I still think they are vulnerable to an upset in the conference tourney." -Rebalpatriot23

 12. Marquette (-4) 490 23-6          HR-9 LR-25          AP-13 CP-15 GP-16

"3 tough losses (UConn, Louisville and Dominic James) might have doomed this team on their stretch run." -Brwhite23

 13. Villanova (-3) 482 23-6          HR-10 LR-21          AP-11 CP-16 GP-14

"They followed a two point win over a winless DePaul with a two point loss to a struggling Georgetown team." -Sportemind

 14. Missouri (-3) 443 24-5          HR-10 LR-NR          AP-15 CP-12 GP-13

"Kansas would have beat anyone on Sunday... Mizzou ran into a buzz saw... nobody wins at AFH" -Dmmizzou123

 15. Washington (+4) 425 22-7          HR-10 LR-23          AP-16 CP-13 GP-12

"Two great wins this week against the Arizona schools.  Who would have seen this in November?" -Udub#1fan

 16. Purdue (-1) 382 22-7          HR-10 LR-NR          AP-19 CP-20 GP-19

"Watch out America, Hummel is back.  My other final four team, IF they can stay healthy." -Iusucks

 17. Clemson (-5) 366 22-6          HR-11 LR-24          AP-18 CP-19 GP-15

"Two bad losses this week led to their large fall in rank." -Reamo37

 18. Gonzaga (+2) 347 23-5          HR-10 LR-24          AP-14 CP-14 GP-22

"They keep owning their conference, just like Memphis.  Their ambitious schedule produced those early losses that prevent them from getting a higher ranking." -Jewjohnson

 19. Xavier (+2) 267 23-5          HR-13 LR-NR          AP-17 CP-18 GP-17

"Hard to figure them out but like many others have the talent to beat anyone on any given day." -Crazylegs0721

 20. UCLA (+3) 225 22-7          HR-11 LR-NR          AP-20 CP-17 GP-21

" A week of much needed winning allows them to creep back up the polls, but it will take much more to reestablish them as a top 10 team.' -Nascarfan999

 21. Illinois (-3) 217 23-7          HR-12 LR-NR          AP-23 CP-23 GP-18

"Clinched a first round bye in the conference tourney, which definitely makes it much easier for them in Indianapolis." -Agsmith46

 22. Florida State (E) 204 22-7          HR-15 LR-NR          AP-24 CP-24 GP-20

"FSU is quietly, maybe possibly the 3rd best team in the ACC. Their size and rebounding will help them in the ACC tourney and NCAA Tournament. Sleeper team." -Chrisishokie

 23. Arizona State (-7) 151 21-7          HR-11 LR-NR          AP-21 CP-21 GP-25

"The Sun Devils lost both games of their Washington trip by very slim margins.  The Washington State loss would have been more galling except for the fact that the Coogs pounded Arizona by 16 and had to go OT to beat ASU on a very late 3-point shot." -Wachoosay

 24. Butler (+1) 111 25-4          HR-18 LR-NR          AP-22 CP-22 GP-24

"Won the Horizon League Regular season...But is an Upset coming in the Horizon League tourney?" -Jermtheworm33

 25. Syracuse (NR) 91 21-8          HR-17 LR-NR          AP-25 CP-25 GP-23

"They have a lot of loses but most are quality loses, whoever gets this team in the tourney will be in trouble. I suggest the Hack-a-jack and hack-a-uaku strategy, they have some terrible FT shooters." -Loucards

In: Syracuse      Out: West Virginia

Biggest jump: LSU (+6)      Biggest fall: Arizona State (-7)

Others receiving votes: BYU 38, West Virginia 35, Creighton 21, Texas 15, Dayton 11, Wisconsin 7, Utah 6, Siena 6, California 4, Oklahoma State 3, Utah State 3, Providence 2, Rhode Island 2, South Carolina 1, Tennessee 1, Boston College 1, UAB 1 

What it all means: (First place votes), Team, (Change in rank from last week), Points, Record, Highest Rank, Lowest Rank, , AP rank, Coache's rank, Gary Parrish's rank, Voter's Take 

Conference power rankings:

  1. Big East (0.0201)
  2. ACC (0.0302)
  3. Big 12 (0.0704)
  4. Big 10 (0.0706)
  5. Pac 10 (0.1007)
  6. USA (0.1503)
  7. SEC (0.1508)
  8. Atlantic 10 (0.1510)
  9. West Coast (0.1705)
  10. Mountain West (0.1911)
  11. Horizon (0.2209)
  12. Missouri Valley (0.2412)
  13. MAAC (0.2513)
  14. Western Athletic (0.2514)

(Only teams receiving votes in TPP are calculated into CPR)

Breaking down the rankings: 

A new week and yet another new #1. Connecticut gets their second shot of the season to hold the top spot and is followed by North Carolina and former #1 Pittsburgh. Memphis continues to quietly climb the rankings and is up to #4 this week. Rounding out the top 5 is Louisville who is coming off a nice win over Marquette.

Oklahoma comes in at #6 after two Griffin-less losses to Texas and Kansas. Michigan State looks to be tops in the Big 10 and climbs to #7. Duke drops one spot to #8 with a huge showdown at UNC this weekend. Kansas jumps up 5 spots to #9 after two top 10 wins and is followed by Wake Forest.

LSU continues to win and move up the rankings. The tigers jump 6 spots to #11 and are followed by Marquette and Villanova. Missouri drops 3 spots after becoming the 40<sup>th</sup> straight team to lose at Allen Fieldhouse and are followed by the Huskies of Washington.

Purdue comes in at #16 and is followed by slumping Clemson who is down 5 spots from last week. Gonzaga continues their conference dominance and jumps to # 18 followed by Xavier and UCLA who is coming off a nice win vs Cal.

The Illini drop three spots to #21 this week. Florida State holds their position at #22 and is followed by Arizona State who is this week’s biggest loser; dropping seven spots from last week. Butler climbs one spot to #24 followed by Syracuse who jumps back into the top 25 this week.

Thanks to everyone who voted! All voters make sure and check out the People's Poll Group!

What!?! How can ____ not be ranked! Or how did ____ get a first place vote? Click here to check out everyone's ballots!


Since: Dec 11, 2008
Posted on: March 4, 2009 1:30 am

The People's Poll: Week 16

it's "grammar school"

Since: Mar 3, 2009
Posted on: March 3, 2009 10:41 pm

The People's Poll: Week 16


When was the last time the Big 10 won the ACC/Big TEN Challenge...NEVER, you idiot...get your facts straight...Only one Big TEN team, , has managed a winning record in the challenge...ACC 10 straight years winning the challenge, (less than) BIG Ten ZERO years winning the challenge...ACC top conference last 4 of 5 years and national champions in 3 of last 8 years...ACC 62 wins in Challenge...BIG Ten 35 wins (or better yet 62 losses)...

your probably needed to finish grammer school to understand the numbers so I don't expect you comprehend, you IDIOT!!!!!!


By the way, I'm actually a BRUIN....

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2009 3:31 pm

The People's Poll: Week 16

Tarheels__001, this is you isn't it!  Well if not LoneEagleTLS = an idiot! 

No figure coming from an UNC fan.

If I was a UNC fan and read the retarded posts by idiot after moron after dumbarse UNC fan I would be disgraced!

Funny every year, some idiot, like yourself, says something stupid, and then ACC goes 3 - 5 in the tourney and the big ten goes 9 - 6, hmmmm, ACC > Big Ten, top half sure, overall,not a chance!  2 different styles of play, michigan state is actually better then a 7 and watch out for Illinois and Purdue, one of these teams will be in the Final Four.  Put a Stamp on that!

Yeah your right, the big ten plays no one out of conference, big ten/acc challenge, oh thats right per your own words that means acc = jack crap, right?

Go away and don't come back unless you have something positive to contribute!

Since: Jun 8, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2009 1:26 pm

The People's Poll: Week 16

great job on the poll again but i have one homerish problem. Clemson is ranked at 17 while FSU is ranked at 22. i understand the fact that FSU lost to BC but they have swept the series with Clemson and they are still 5 spots lower than them. im not saying that FSU should be ranked at 17 but Clemson should have fell farther than what they did.

Since: Mar 3, 2009
Posted on: March 3, 2009 12:11 pm

MICHIGAN STATE No.7 ??? - What a laugh!!!!!!!!!!!


If they played in the ACC where a top 25 loss is usually to a TOP 10 TEAM, something the pollsters never take into consideration, MICHIGAN STATE would be 15 to 20th!!!!!...MICHIGAN STATE, No. 7 nationally, what a laugh, they'd be 5th or 6th in the ACC at best (blown out by MARYLAND and North Carolina)...two-thirds of the BIG 10 would be at the the bottom of the ACC...the pollsters forget about the out of conference games played by the BIG 10 or PAC 10 teams before they play each other in conference play...probably only two BIG 10 teams should be in the top 25 nationally.....

Since: Oct 7, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2009 9:34 am
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Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2009 6:14 am

The People's Poll: Week 16

I was really just overrating UAB, but I'm not entirely sure that Tennessee is better than them.  Gonzaga, yes.  Tennessee has had their struggles, though...UT does have a better resume and a better shot of making the NCAAs.  I retracted part of my statement on the voting thread too...

...but the point is, Memphis didn't really do that well against the better competition they played this year...and it isn't their fault that no one else in CUSA stepped up, but it is what it is.


Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2009 4:42 am

The People's Poll: Week 16

As always Jawhk, superb job.  Also thanks for using one of my comments this week, must mean I am finally a regular.  Will post every week, thanks again.


Also great job to everyone else too, for taking the time to post their rankings and comments.  Nice to get persepective of teams from coast to coast, which sometimes living in the good old midwest is tough.

Anyways, great job guys and gals as always, can't wait til next week when the tourneys begin.

Since: Feb 5, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2009 2:07 am

The People's Poll: Week 16

Whoever it was that ranked Memphis at #20 should get their voting privileges rescinded.

Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2009 12:29 am

The People's Poll: Week 16

Big-C...while I don't question that KU has been playing better than Dook as of late and may deserve the better ranking this week, I think it's an uneducated statement to say that the Big 12 is "at least equal to the ACC (but not the Big East)".

Seriously, look at how things are (comparing the teams in equal spots in their respective conference ranking):

1. UNC / Oklahoma - let's call it a draw; arguments can fly for both.
2. Duke / Kansas - play 10 times, finish 5-5; another draw.
3. Wake / Missouri - simply put - a draw.

This is where I think the conference differences show up which is why the ACC is a tougher conference and results in it being a tougher win night in night out (and yes, I know you'll argue...have at it):

4. ACC : CLEM/ KS St: Big Edge Clemson. KSU has no quality wins. Clemson has 2 top 25 wins and 7w's over tourney teams
5. ACC : FSU / OK St: OK St has only 2 decent non-conf wins (Siena, Rhode Island); FSU 3 non-conf wins over tourney teams
6. BIG12 : BC / TX: Texas won 2 big non-conf games (ND, Nova), but lost to Arkansas; BC swept UNC/Duke, but lack a big non-conf win
7. DRAW : MD / TX A&M: A&M has 2 strong non-conf wins (LSU, Zona); MD has wins over Mich St and Mich, plus a big win over UNC.
8. BIG12 : VT / NE: NE is 1-1 vs non-conf tourney teams (W vs Creighton at home); VT has no quality non-conf W, but lost tight game to Xavier by 1 at home
9. ACC : MIA / BAY: MIA is 1-2 vs non-conf tourney teams (won on the road at KY); BAY is 1-2 vs non-conf tourney teams, but 2-9 slide hurts; Edge to MIA - they beat WF, Baylor lost to WF
10. DRAW : NC St / IA St: NC St has no quality non-conf win to claim, but stayed within 3pt vs Marq at home and lost by 2 to Florida at the swamp but beat WF and MIA both at home; IA St's closest thing to a quality non-conf win is No Iowa and no decent conf wins;
11. DRAW : VA / TX Tech: TT's only tough non-conf game, lost by 13 to PIT coupled with decent win over NM; VA had no non-conf win to hang their hat on, but held Syracuse to a tight 3pt game on the road and upset Clemson recently;
12. ACC : GA Tech / CO: CO going 8-6 vs a very weak non-conf sched shows why they're 1-13 in the Big 12; GT at 9-4 against tougher non-conf opponents gets the edge.

So, as I see it, that's 3 additional draws. ACC up on 4 and Big 12 up on 2. Now, that's just matching 1st vs 1st, etc. If you take into account the SOS for the entire conf as a whole, ACC has the highest rating according to the Saragin rating , while the Big 12 sits 5th. You can look deeper into those ratings to see how the ACC teams consistently rate higher than the Big 12 teams with regards to the SOS. And if Big was "at least equal to the ACC...", then shouldn't the Big 12 at least be ranked 2nd? Heck, maybe 3rd, but 5th?

Now, the discussion I had with another person today was about the dispute between the ACC and the Big East. Now THAT is a quality match up. Even with the ACC holding a 10-6 head-to-head record advantage over the Big East this year, none of the match ups were quality match ups. No top echelon teams playing each other. Looking at the rankings, Big East has 6 in the Top 25, the ACC has 5. If this discussion was held a month ago, flip those numbers. My point - the polls mean little, but every analyst out there has grouped the ACC and Big East as their top two power conferences. I think arguments could be made for either the ACC or the Big East to lay claim as the top conference. Keep in mind...the Big 12 was never considered apart of that picture this year. So, that leaves us with the only real debate left and that will be settled by the greatest tournament ever.

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