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Your 2nd amendment rights under attack

Posted on: March 16, 2009 1:06 pm

There is currently a bill in congress (H.R. 45) which will essentially grant the Federal government permission to treat law-abiding gun owners no better--or even worse--than convicted sex offenders and other felons. Don't believe me? Check this out, from Congressman Denny Rehberg:

"Americans are concerned about H.R. 45, the “Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009,” sponsored by Representative Bobby Rush. This bill contains sweeping gun control measures such as universal background checks, a federal firearm licensing requirement and the creation of a firearms tracking system.

In addition to the new licensing regulations, this legislation also requires gun owners to inform law enforcement within 72 hours if their gun is lost or stolen. Failure to report a lost or stolen gun will result in criminal charges against the gun owner. Also, if a child uses the owner’s gun to harm themself or someone else, the gun owner will be held legally responsible.

This bill would also prevent gun owners from selling or transferring a firearm without involving a licensed dealer. Gun owners would no longer to be able to sell firearms at gun shows, garage sales or estate sales. Gun owners would not be able to pass down a firearm to a relative, or even their spouse, without involving a licensed dealer.

But most disturbing, H.R. 45 authorizes the federal government to create a massive database containing sales records for every gun sold in America. If this bill is passed, the federal government would know the make, model, and serial number of every gun you own. This information should stay in the hands of firearms dealers and should only be made available to the government if it is requested by law enforcement officials enforcing a judge’s warrant."

Criminals don't register their guns; criminals will not be in a federal database as gun owners. But law-abiding citizens who allow this travesty of a bill to pass congress are agreeing that our own government has the right to treat its citizens as it treats convicted criminals. Anyone who values their right to own a gun needs to contact their representative in congress.

Our president said he would protect our 2nd Amendment rights. Rights without freedoms aren't really rights at all.

(P.S. I don't own a gun.)


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Since: Jan 21, 2008
Posted on: March 20, 2009 7:34 am

Your 2nd amendment rights under attack

I own several guns from a .22 up to a .45/70 that I use for everything from deer hunting to varmit control.  I find this utterly appalling that this country is heading toward the same laws that they have in Europe.  I read that in England, which has very strict laws, that criminals there are using baseball bats since they know homeowners won't have a firearm to defend themselves.  Like the bumper sticker says, they can have mine when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. 

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: March 19, 2009 10:28 am

Your 2nd amendment rights under attack

Great posts and information, Cat.

I'm simply amazed by the number of people, including many in the shooting and hunting fraternities, who are unaware that something as egregious as H.R. 45 is even being considered. The good news (unless something has changed in the last few days) is that this hideous assault on our rights and personal freedom appears to have little traction among sane folks... Not a single co-sponsor has signed on.

We should be very afraid of a government who fears our guns. And make no mistake... Any so-called "registration" legislation is simply a stepping-stone along the path to total abolishment of private firearm ownership.

The 2nd Amendment is, ultimately, our only guarantee for the remainder of the Bill of Rights. If and when it disappears, Big Brother holds all the cards.

Wake up, people!

Since: Jun 27, 2007
Posted on: March 17, 2009 10:23 am

Your 2nd amendment rights under attack


 Hey, Gator,

I understand your point of view, and I don't have any issue with you expressing it. Smile

One of the  issues I have with Federal regulations concerning firearms is that no two states are alike. Laws designed to control guns in the massive urban areas of Southern California are completely misplaced in rural states. This is an issue--like many others--which should be based upon each state's needs, not upon the dictates of an increasingly growing federal government.

'We're taking away some of your freedoms....but it's for your own protection.' We're already on our way down the slippery slope. Take a look at the proposals on energy. There is a proposal to tax citizens based upon how many miles they drive. If a person lives in an urban area with access to mass transit....not a bid deal. But what about people who live in large rural states? How about guys who farm for a living? Those folks are racking up the miles, but it's not as if they're out joyriding. They're doing their jobs, or going to their jobs. The federal government applies blanket sets of regulations at all situations; it's a very poor way of dealing with any issue.

After September 11, 2001, the Patriot Act put many things in place for surveillance of any citizen who was suspected of having any involvement with terrorist activities. It essentially gave the goverment carte blanche to spy on anyone, and really, for any reason. Isn't it strange that the current government finds surveillance to be inappropriately invasive and a violation of our rights....yet wouldn't alllow a father to leave his hunting rifle to his son without bringing in a licensed dealer to oversee and manage the transaction?  All that is required when an automobile changes hands is a bill of sale, not a dealer. (Additionally, automobiles use roads; roads that are built by the government, and the vehicles registered and taxes applied.)

I actually completely understand your point about having guns registered. My concern with this bill is that it goes beyond what is necessary and reasonable. It pushes past the limits of common sense and into the realm of Big Brother-esque control. If this bill stopped at the point of being a common-sense bill, I wouldn't have a problem with it....but it doesn't.... so I do. This bill also does nothing to address criminals. The whole point of it seems to be to come down with an iron fist upon law-abiding citizens. If someone's gun is stolen and they don't realize it for a week, that person is going to be subject to criminal prosection. That's simply insane. This bill is not about gun registration. This bill in reality is about using heavy-handed tactics to remove guns from the hands of law-abiding citizens. It is simply a way to circumvent the 2nd Amendment, and that's not okay.

Since: Dec 6, 2006
Posted on: March 16, 2009 11:59 pm

Your 2nd amendment rights under attack

First off, I do not own a gun, but almost everyone else that I know does. I know that trading & selling guns is really easy. I also know that family members often swap firearms from member to memeber. Just a family thing.

I have been told that owning a gun to shoot a deer is just like owning a fishing pole, so owners should be able do what they want.

I do not see it that clear cut. I have never been in a war w/ a fishing rod.

I was always taught that if you have nothing to hide than do what the laws of the land are. I like to smoke, I can no longer do that at a bar w/ only fellow smokers. I am not happy about the law, but oh well. it is what it is. Majority voted and got their ruling. The sad thing is that several restaurants have closed because they went the family route instead of traditional beverage enjoying smokers. My favorite Cigar store even shut down.

They have to control the use of weapons and who has them. I have no problem that things have to be dealt w/ through the Government. I want to know who and what type of weapon/s my neighbors have. I know, you can not get all of them, but the majority of them will help.

As for gun shows, all I can say is that if it is a historic non functioning gun, then no big deal. If it can fire, then get the paper work done. There should be a grandfather clause though if it is over 25 years old. IMO

You have to show proof everytime that a car/title goes from person to person, so what is the difference in my opinion.

Ok here is one even better, I have a Pug. She has paper work showing that she is AKC legit. The only thing she bites is her pig ears and nips at her tail. Not really known as a killer, but anyone can go and get a Pit Bull w/out having to swap or turn in paper work. The AKC doesn't even acknowledge them as a dog because of the violent temperment. I kinda wish that the goverment would do something about that, but I know of more guns running amuck compared to Pit Bulls, so I am OK w/ it. (Maybe that was a stretch)

Ugh, I am not a poilitical person at all and usually never respond, but I have to say that there are more illeagal guns out there than safe people. If they can take one illegal gun off the street everyday then I am happy.

There was a kid that took his dads gun to middle school locally because he felt like he needed to. Bulletts do not know names. The dad should go to jail for not locking the weapon up. He is just as in the worng as the kid that took it. He learned from his father that a gun is ok to take care of bad things. The kid just was never taught about the rules of engagement. That is on his dad.

I have no problem people owning guns, I am in the military so I kinda dig them, just do the right thing and do what the laws say. We get weapons but they know what # we have and how many rounds. I have no problem w/ that.

This topic kinda reminds me of a line in Tombstone, "No one is saying you can not own a gun. No one is saying you can not carry a gun, but...." You just have to have it registered.

Sorry Cat, I didn't mean to rant. I hope we can agree to disagree. Still one of my Fave NASCAR fans!

Since: Oct 17, 2006
Posted on: March 16, 2009 5:42 pm

Your 2nd amendment rights under attack

this is condemnable for a fact. if this is allowed to pass the 2nd amendment might as well be repealed. i at this time in my life do not own even a bb gun but i was very active in hunting as a youth. i owned at 1 time 6 firearms of variable powers. from hand guns to rifles that could drop an elephant. i sold them all but only due to the fact i decided to raise a family and didnt want a single one in my house while my kids grew up. as my oldest starts to get of age i will reevaluate the situation to determine if they want to hunt as i did and at that time i will either purchase new ones or buy used. but this bill is a complete infringement on my ability to do just that. anyone who thinks as a nation we are not moving towards a Brave New World (Aldus Huxley) is mistaken. in another 20 years the tags will be imbedded beneath our skin and we will do as we are told not what we want as a people in large. its a sad state our nation has fallen too.

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