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O'Neal must get healthy before trade (UPDATE)

Posted on: January 19, 2009 6:33 pm
Edited on: January 20, 2009 5:51 pm

Trade rumors have been swirling around the Raptors' Jermaine O'Neal, and for good reason. O'Neal has been out with a sore right knee for 10 of the last 11 games, and the air was ripe for conspiracy theories Monday when he was held out of Toronto's game against the conference-rival Hawks. The Miami Heat, reported to be mulling a possible deal that would send Shawn Marion to Toronto for O'Neal, had a scout at the Hawks-Raptors game. That's standard procedure with the Heat scheduled to play the Hawks next Monday, but the O'Neal situation is sufficiently curious as to arouse suspicions. As Ira Winderman of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel points out, O'Neal hasn't scored a single basket since Dec. 29.

Raptors G.M. Bryan Colangelo is said to be itching to complete a big trade before the Feb. 19 deadline. O'Neal is a likely candidate, with his $23 million expiring contract next season and with the emergence of Andrea Bargnani in O'Neal's absence.

O'Neal's agent, Arn Tellem, wouldn't discuss the likelihood that O'Neal would be dealt. But a person with direct knowledge of the Raptors' plans told me that O'Neal will stay right where he is until he can prove that his knee is sturdy enough for a playoff run with a new team. "Nothing can happen until he's completely healthy," the person said.

So the speculation will continue until O'Neal gets back on the floor and proves that he can help a team with playoff aspirations. No telling how long that will be.

UPDATE: Here is the latest, according to a source familiar with the situation. Miami wants O'Neal to prove he's healthy before trading for him. Raptors G.M. Bryan Colangelo, being the shrewd negotiator that he is, will likely call the Heat's bluff by trying to find another potential suitor for O'Neal. This ostensibly would force Heat president Pat Riley to decide whether he wants to pull the trigger on the deal before he's ready to. It's a poker game. A second source says Miami is definitely trying to add a big man. O'Neal would fit the bill. It'll be interesting to see who blinks first.



Since: Apr 23, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2009 6:28 pm

O'Neal must get healthy before trade (UPDATE)

O'Neal has to get healthy to be a factor ever again in the NBA. 

Since: Apr 23, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2009 6:27 pm

O'Neal must get healthy before trade (UPDATE)

O'Neal has to get healthy to be a factor ever again in the NBA. 

Since: Feb 2, 2009
Posted on: February 2, 2009 3:30 pm

O'Neal must get healthy before trade (UPDATE)


First of all it amazes me Miami would even consider trading Shawn Marion for Kermaine Oneil. Look at the number Marion has been getting compared to Oneil and he is playing more like a big man and scoring like one than JO has done in two and a half years. Oneil has become a cruiser a player who has recieved a contract that he does not deserve. He has given Chris Bosh more looks but when the opposing teams realize that Oneil is barely a shadow of his old self they will let the big man operate; and all will see that his carear as a star is over. I am a die hard Raptor fan and hope to see Marion in a Raptor jersey this year. Moon really is a poor mans moon in several ways and if Marion is brought in Moon being traded for another good role player would be a good idea. Raptors still need a good second point guard Solomon and Uckic are preatty inconsistent and one dimensional players when it comes to their offensive mentalities. It is easier to sleep knowing that the Raptors have a GM who has not losat his head. Babcock trading Carter for Williams and a disgruntled Alonzo Mourning was a horrible idea just the same as drafting Rafael in front of A.I (one still in a sixers uni). A few pieces and the Raptors can be a 50 win team for years to come.



Trade Jason Kapono unless he starts draining 4-5 threes a game or showing that he is worth his contract

Trade JO for Marion if possible

Trade Parker for somebody who has a bit more spring in their step Kelene Azubuke anyone?

Moon has lost so much of his passion somebody needs to tell him to wake the hell up and not play on cruise gear or trade him for a 1st round pick or a big man who can rebound and play d



Since: Apr 3, 2007
Posted on: January 21, 2009 11:49 am

O'Neal must get healthy before trade (UPDATE)

Agreed entirely until the comment, "he (Banks) would serve as a better back up PG then those other two bums (Solomon, Ukic)."  What games have you been watching in the past month?  Ukic has not only shown flashes of brilliance during the game and in clutch time, but he has also shown that he has the ability to be a serviceable back-up to Calderon.  HE IS ALSO A ROOKIE, showing immense potential.  Banks has been in the NBA for five years already and seems to have hit a wall in his developement (i.e. He's not going to get any better).  He's only played 13 games this season, and is currently injured.  In my opinion, Shoot-First-Solomon is even a better point guard than Banks - at least stats-wise.  So please don't hog what you're smoking and share it with the rest of us. 

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: January 21, 2009 10:12 am

O'Neal must get healthy before trade (UPDATE)

Plus O'neal would be a bad influence on Beasley and the rest of the young talent on the Heat.

I'm not exactly sure where you're getting your information to make a statement like this, but it's wrong. O'neal is a professional. Andrea Bargnani is having a breakout season under the mentoring of O'Neal. Jermaine O'neal has been incredible for the Raptors big men, bringing a toughness that hasn't been here since Antonio Davis and Charles Oakley. He'll make your young big men play tougher around the hoop. 

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: January 20, 2009 8:33 pm

O'Neal must get healthy before trade (UPDATE)

Anyone that would trade for O'neal must have a death wish!!!!! I know Marion may not be what the Heat needS, but to trade him for O'neal is really a stupid idea in my opinion. At least Marion will play every night, O'neal may play 50 games in a year if you are extremely LUCKY!!!!! Plus O'neal would be a bad influence on Beasley and the rest of the young talent on the Heat. If the Heat feel they really need a center, trade for Camby, My Goodness!!!!!JERMAINE O'NEAL!!!!!  Cannot be real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Since: Jan 20, 2009
Posted on: January 20, 2009 4:23 pm

Raptors and O'Neal trade

As a Raptor fan I can only pray this trade goes down! If I have to watch Jamario Moon start another game and get as much PT as he does, I’ll lose my mind. He doesn’t have a shot in his game, but he just keeps on shooting from the outside, look at the shot he took against Atlanta with 33 seconds left, Raps have Kapono and Andrea on the floor, no rebounders in position and Moon shoots a 3, oh yeah and the Raptors where down by only 1 point. Jamario will never learn, his basketball IQ is atrocious. Get Moon on the Bench where he belongs and <st1:city><st1:place>Ma
> in the starting lineup, please!!!  So much for all the talk coming into the season that O'Neal was as healthy as he has ever been, u would be lucky to get 50 games out of O'Neal in the next two seasons. The Heat should ask for some super glue to be included in the trade for O’Neal. O’Neal is expandable now that we have witnessed Andrea’s coming out party. Just when everyone thought the number one pick was a bust, O’Neal goes down, Andrea's asserted into the starting line up getting more PT and is looking like a completly different player then what we ahve seen over the last 2 years. He is actually getting boards, blocks and being aggressive taking it to the hoop. The losing has been ruff but it has been overshadowed a little by Andrea’s play. A bonus would be if Banks is included in the trade, he would serve as a better back up PG then those other two bums (Solomon, Ukic), you know your backup point guards are bad when you start your SG(Parker) at point. O’Neal gone, Marion in, Moon to the bench, Calderon healthy and Andrea a future all star?

Since: Sep 8, 2008
Posted on: January 20, 2009 2:20 pm

O'Neal must get healthy before trade

The bottom line is the trade will benefit both teams, as the Raptors need a true three and rebounding, and the Heat need to get tougher inside. Michael Beasley is Miami's answer in the three position and with Shawn Marion there he is taking minutes away from an up and coming player. Jermaine O'Neal will no doubt help Miami, the Miami system is better suited to his game, as is Toronto's game is better suited to Marion's. Besides if this trade doesn't work our for either team, the money will come off the books in a short period of time freeing up money to be spent on a glut of free agents. Both of these teams need help, need a shake-up, no time like the present!!

Since: Apr 3, 2007
Posted on: January 20, 2009 12:55 pm

O'Neal must get healthy before trade

Agreed.  I believe the trade has immense potential to be mutually beneficial. 

The Raps have no room for a big-time big man right now, with the emergence of Bargnani.  Throwing O'Neal back into the line up right now would take away big minutes from Bargnani, and would be detrimental to the admirable chemistry that has developed between Bosh and Bargnani.

The Raptors need Shawn Marion, or someone like him.  The scoring and defense they're getting from their two's and three's are inconsistent (that's putting it nicely).  With Kapono and Graham listed as the team's small forwards, it's understandable why Marion would be so attractive to Brian Colangelo, and Raptors fans in general.

Pull the trigger.

Since: Jan 20, 2009
Posted on: January 20, 2009 10:53 am

O'Neal must get healthy before trade

Dear Toronto,

  Thank you for taking him off of our hands.  While our Pacers are struggling this year, we love that we are not reading these kinds of articles in the Indianapolis Star (like we were every freakin week when he was here).  While Ford has been injured a little this year we enjoy watching a true and productive point guard on the team.  


A grateful Pacers fan

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