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Amare talks turn to Chicago, but ... (UPDATE)

Posted on: February 15, 2009 8:50 pm
Edited on: February 16, 2009 4:51 am
 

PHOENIX -- As Amare Stoudemire warmed up for the NBA All-Star Game on his home floor Sunday night, the Suns' efforts to trade him circled back to the Chicago Bulls, three people with knowledge of the situation told CBSSports.com.

The Suns are discussing financial and basketball trades with several teams, and disagreement within the organization -- and in the mind of managing partner Robert Sarver -- continues to complicate matters, one of the people said. One faction of the organization views trading Stoudemire as a "giant mistake" that would be difficult to recover from and views the firing of coach Terry Porter as a sufficient move for now. Asssistant Alvin Gentry is expected to take over for Porter Monday.

The Suns' efforts to find the best deal for Stoudemire have come back to the Bulls partly because of Phoenix's interest in Tyrus Thomas, one of the people said. The trade likely would have to include at least one of the following -- Drew Gooden, whose contract expires after this season, and Larry Hughes, whose deal comes off the books after 2009-10.

If the Suns decide to dump salary and go young, there could be an additional smaller deal that follows any Stoudemire move, one of the people with knowledge of the team's strategy said. Though several other teams are still in the mix and are being apprised of the progress with Stoudemire, one rival executive familiar with the talks said Portland evidently is no longer an option.

Stoudemire received a warm welcome from the home crowd during the All-Star starters' introductions at US Airways Center. He pounded his chest in return and smiled. Was it hello or good-bye?

UPDATE: With 40.1 seconds left in the West's 146-119 victory, Stoudemire swooped in for a breakaway dunk. He admitted wondering if it would be his last as a Sun.

"At that time, I just wanted to do a fantastic dunk," Stoudemire said. "And then after that, when I got done, I thought that might be the final dunk here. And if it was, two thumbs up."

But the Suns' situation is so convoluted that Stoudemire at once referred to Gentry as the new coach and the next minute said, "I have never gotten an official word from our organization. So I'm still not totally sure if he’s here or not."

Stoudemire said he'd spoken with team president Steve Kerr briefly this weekend, and Kerr said this: "He said from a financial standpoint, it hasn't changed. But hopefully, I’ll be a Phoenix Sun. ... Like I told you guys, it was 60-40 me being here. It still hasn’t changed. Hopefully, that 60 is true and I will be here. But I feel like there’s a 40 percent chance I won't be."

 

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Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: February 16, 2009 11:12 pm
 

Amare talks turn to Chicago, but ... (UPDATE)

jus heard on espn that amare is gettin traded to the cavs

 

 




Since: Jul 13, 2007
Posted on: February 16, 2009 5:34 pm
 

Amare talks turn to Chicago, but ... (UPDATE)

Rumors and inside sources hint to Amare being traded for financial reasons, so if you follow that logic, then it's not reasonable to expect an all-star in return. The Suns would be looking for salary relief in the form of expiring contracts, cheap players with potnetial, and/or draft picks. If they swapped Amare for another all-star they would still be on the hook for a large salary, and that wouldn't accomplish the goal. I'm willing to bet the Suns would much rather deal Shaq, but probably can't find a taker.

Also, remember the NBA limit for cash considerations in a trade is 3 million, so you cant give up a player and say, we will pay for him. (see the nba's cba, http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles/ar

ticle-VII_8.php)




Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: February 16, 2009 3:26 pm
 

Amare talks turn to Chicago, but ... (UPDATE)

It would be a big mistake if the Suns gave up Stoudemire for a nobody unless if the player he gor traded for is also an all star or an all star caliber. I just don't understand why they can't just rebuilt the team around him instead of trying to get another player that they don't know if he can fit in with the players they have now. Ifr Kerr gave up Stoudemire, than he is really a stupid manager and so far, he has proven just that.




Since: Feb 15, 2009
Posted on: February 16, 2009 3:17 pm
 

Amare talks turn to Chicago, but ... (UPDATE)

i agree with most of what u said.. but i think they should hold on to amare.. and i think if he was THE guy u could build around him.. the problem is they got shaq now and he clogs the lane where the nash and amare pick and roll would otherwise be run almost every play.. and the 6 rebs a game too also has to do with big shaq in the middle snatchin up all the boards.. if they can ever get back to that style amare could put up 25 and 10 like he did the end of last year..




Since: Feb 19, 2008
Posted on: February 16, 2009 3:16 pm
 

Amare talks turn to Chicago, but ... (UPDATE)

I think Shawn Marion from the Heat went to Toronto for Jermaine. There are others involved but these were the 2 headliners




Since: Dec 7, 2008
Posted on: February 16, 2009 2:27 pm
 

Amare talks turn to Chicago, but ... (UPDATE)

they traded shawn marion for shaq, amare is still a sun currently.




Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: February 16, 2009 1:59 pm
 

The Suns would be stupid to trade Amare

At his age, they ought to build around him and get rid of the old guys.  If the Suns were really trying to be a contender going forward, they ought to trade Shaq and Nash for younger players and picks. 

I could easily see a deal that brings the Suns Andrew Bynum & a contract that expires by the end of 2010 for Shaq and a 2nd rounder.  And follow that up with a deal of Nash to Orlando for Courtny Lee, a contract that expires by the end of 2010 and a 2nd rounder. 

I am really having a hard time grasping why the Suns would rather keep Nash and Shaq than Amare.




Since: Mar 6, 2008
Posted on: February 16, 2009 1:47 pm
 

Amare talks turn to Chicago, but ... (UPDATE)

Pheonix looks to trade great for potentially great, with Tyus, as well as the expiring contracts of 2 would be peripheral pieces.  I think the Knicks, who have been rumored in talks should offer, dare I say it, David "Superman" Lee AND Stephan Marbury and offer to pay Marnury's whole salary for this year.  David is a Stouemire wannabe and he is not that far off.  And Marbury for the rest of the season for FREE!  What's not to like?  They get a look at a once great, still young enough to make an impact for years to come (if he finds motivation), and they can sign him next year if they like what they see, or have an expiring contract with a replacement (Lee) at a serious discount for Stoudimire.  I think this is a Win-Win for everyone except Lee, unfortunately.  Lee is the kind of guy you root for and this could be a real slap in his face for his hard work.  But to look at David, he seems to be the kind of person who takes pride in his work and would improve year after year simply because he has a ball in his hands.  But, this may be the kind of aquisition that proves to a Lebron or Wade (or etc...) that they can take the Knicks seriously come the GREAT free agent year.  And, it improves the Knicks now and get's rid of the Pheonix problem and may actually improve it as well, for the short term.  What do you think?




Since: Mar 26, 2008
Posted on: February 16, 2009 1:41 pm
 

Amare talks turn to Chicago, but ... (UPDATE)

Just throwing it out there...

Trade him to the Pacers?  I don't know what exactly they would have to give up to get him, but trade anyione and anything but T.J. Ford and Granger and it would be a good deal.




Since: Dec 14, 2008
Posted on: February 16, 2009 1:37 pm
 

Amare talks turn to Chicago, but ... (UPDATE)

this is the trade that should go down. suns receive first round draft pick, jj hickson (young talented PF) and wally szerbiak for amare and money considerations. AMARE in cleveland = TITLE in cleveland



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