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No suspension for Pietrus

Posted on: June 12, 2009 12:16 pm
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ORLANDO, Fla. -- Mickael Pietrus won't be fined or suspended for Game 5 of the NBA Finals after the league office reviewed his hard foul against Pau Gasol at the end of overtime in Game 4 and decided not to take further action, CBSSports.com has learned.

This was the convenient way to handle this; the last thing anybody wanted was a controversy heading into a closeout game in the Finals. But it was not the right way to handle it. After so many upgrades and downgrades of flagrants this postseason, it was incumbent upon the NBA to get this one right. I don't think they did, but I am willing to give them a chance to explain.

At the competition committee meeting in Chicago last month, team executives told league officials that they need explicit guidelines for what constitutes a flagrant-one and flagrant-two. The rule book defines a flagrant-two as "unnecessary and excessive contact," but Stu Jackson and his comrades have a compendium of factors and circumstances that they consider when reviewing flagrant calls to determine if the punishment was assessed correctly.

The league has agreed to provide these guidelines to players, coaches, media, and fans before next season. Obviously, we could've used them sooner, because it has become virtually impossible to look at a flagrant foul and determine what the league will make of it.

It's supposed to be like obscenity. You're supposed to be able to know it when you see it. To me, Pietrus' foul on Gasol fit that description better than any other flagrant foul I've seen this postseason.



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Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: June 12, 2009 1:37 pm
 

No suspension for Pietrus

try rewatching the play with kobe.  nelson ran over and kobe saw him.  kobe threw his elbows up just like many players have done this year to kind of protect the ball and to pass and he hit him in the face.  its not like his elbow was just sitting there and nelson ran into it.  and to compare howards knee hitting fisher is just stupid



Since: Feb 15, 2008
Posted on: June 12, 2009 1:37 pm
 

No suspension for Pietrus

The elbow was indeliberate and he was passing the ball.  A player should know not to stick their face into someone's elbow without getting clocked. 

Get over it and stop being dbag.




Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: June 12, 2009 1:35 pm
 

No suspension for Pietrus...or Kobe?

 I would agree with most that Pietrus' foul was a flagrant, if Gasol was not able to hold onto the rim and came crashing down then I am sure a suspension would have ensued. That being said, a flagrant should be assesed but as we all know the NBA is a joke when it comes to these situation's. I just find it hard to understand why these rules are interpreted different in a game by game situation and it is one of the reasons fans get frustrated.

 I for one do not believe Kobe should be suspended on the Nelson elbow, it should have been a foul but we are talking about one of the NBA's poster children. The one I think he should be suspended for are the 2 succesive one's he threw at Howard earlier in the game, he was obviously upset as he threw not one but two deliberate elbows at Howard(both of course kept lower than the shoulders, because Kobe had already learned against Houston that ABOVE was the suspendable offense). But if my addition is correct that is 3 elbows thrown in one game...I think we all know that if it was Artest or Rasheed or any non-iconic figure then we would have suspensions.

I think we should all understand by now this is David Stern's league and he will always get what he wants(well except for Lebron vs. Kobe), Cleveland was so bad he couldn't even fix that. Get used to it everyone, this league will be this way forever..or until Stern retires.



Since: Nov 3, 2007
Posted on: June 12, 2009 1:33 pm
 

No suspension for Pietrus

Immediate suspension with no appeal?  Even murderers get more of a chance than that.  Lighten up.  This wasn't the first hard foul of the playoffs, and few of them have resulted in fines or suspensions.



Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: June 12, 2009 1:33 pm
 

No suspension for Pietrus

Yup...and people who run into traffic should sue the the driver of the car that hits them.



Since: Jun 12, 2009
Posted on: June 12, 2009 1:31 pm
 

No suspension for Pietrus

Stu Jackson is gutless or the NBA wants so bad to have this go seven. But the Lakers win despite the one sided officiating. The NBA & the Magic lost. Lakers WON!!!!!!!! It is has to be killing you Boston fans! Another 20 years and you might have another chance. Phil will pass Red hopefully this year which is much harder to do in this free agency world then when Red who was able to hang on to the same allstar players for life. If Lakers win this title it will be 4 this decade not to mention the 6 appearances in the finals. WOW!!!!!!! Dynasty!! Patriots can't even touch that! Don't mention the celtics in the 60's because free agency didn't exist which would have made that impossible if it did. The Lakers have won about 7 or 8 titles during the free agency period vs Boston 4??????

Go Lakers!



Since: Dec 1, 2006
Posted on: June 12, 2009 1:30 pm
 

No suspension for Pietrus

Sorry for all the typos...rough night.



Since: Jan 4, 2009
Posted on: June 12, 2009 1:28 pm
 

No suspension for Pietrus

Magicfan,
you are such a homer, since i know you watched the game you can't honestly tell me that the Magic weren't trying to foul before the ball was passed to Gasol?  Two Magic players jumped toward Kobe, and when Kobe passed it to Ariza, Howard ran out to foul that is why Gasol was open.  Pietrus and Jameer were coming to foul Gasol regardless, it's just that Jameer (being a generally good guy)gave up on the play when he say Gasol jumping to dunk.  And if you are defending a blind two handed club in the back when someone is in the air by saying Gasol shouldn't do that.  What is this third grade??  The Magic and their fans need to check their ego at the door.  If this was anything beside a close-out game for the Lakers, Pietrus would be suspended and i think for multiple games.  The League just didn't want to deal with the Magic's BS theory about how "the NBA" wants the Lakers to win the championship.  Go funnel your frustration at your team's turnovers and missed free throws.  Big Cry Baby!!

GO LAKERS!!!Tongue out 




Since: Oct 24, 2006
Posted on: June 12, 2009 1:27 pm
 

No suspension for Pietrus

It's supposed to be like obscenity. You're supposed to be able to know it when you see it.

Hey bozoo- its ponography that one knows when one sees it (Justice Potter Stewart).   Foot in mouth




Since: Dec 1, 2006
Posted on: June 12, 2009 1:25 pm
 

No suspension for Pietrus

OK Gators. One can assume you are another Laker Hater or just have no clue. As an official of all sports for many years, I can tell you at most there could have been a foul called, but to insuate that it should be reviewed for a flagrant and somehow compare it to Pietrus' cheap shot is ridiculous. To reach on a comparison, let's say Howard was running down court and Fisher stuck his head in front of Howard's knee and he got his nose split wide open from the impact. Should we yell for Howard's head? Of course not. Although it probably hurt, what else was Kobe to do with Nelson attacking him on the front side of a double team...just stand there and let them tie him up. It was obvious it wasn't intentional, just Kobe trying to get some room to pass the ball. With both players on him like that, what was he supposed to do with all his body parts? Foul maybe...flagrant, NO! And altohugh I have no feelings one way or another on Pietrus, to not impose penalty on an obviously cheap shot, that very much endagered Gasol was disappointing and opens up a can of worms for the next game. It was comparable to Fisher's cheap shot earlier in the playoffs.


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