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Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Posted on: June 14, 2009 3:53 pm
 
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Cavaliers are taking an aggressive posture as they head into the draft and free-agent period, so it was only a matter of time before the Shaquille O'Neal talks heated up again.

Several media outlets began reporting Sunday that the Cavs and Suns have reignited talks about sending Shaq to Cleveland to help LeBron James in his quest for a championship. There wasn't much to reignite in the first place; widely hyped discussions involving O'Neal at the trade deadline were never on the verge of producing a deal. An executive familiar with the situation told CBSSports.com Sunday that the situation hasn't evolved much since then, expressing surprise at the flurry of reports. 

But when you have two teams desperate to move assets -- Phoenix with Shaq's $20 million expiring contract, and Cleveland with Ben Wallace's $14 million expiring contract and Sasha Pavlovic's partially guaranteed deal -- smoke often gives way to fire. Throw in the fact that the Cavs are coming off a debilitating loss to Orlando in the conference finals and an embarrassing week that featured a false report about coach Mike Brown's future, and you can see why the time may be right to shift to focus to the team's pursuit of O'Neal.

The executive involved in the teams' dealings said he fully expects the O'Neal situation to move to the forefront once the clubs begin fully exploring their options in the draft and free agency, which begins next month. The Suns, coming off a 46-win, non-playoff season, are highly motivated to move O'Neal in a bid to avoid paying luxury tax. Acquiring Wallace and Pavlovic, whose $4.9 million contract is only guaranteed for $1.5 million next season, would save Phoenix as much as $10 million, including luxury tax savings.

The Cavs view Pavlovic's partial guarantee and several players on minimum deals as a built-in trade exception they can use to improve the roster and give LeBron the big man he needs to compete for a championship at the highest level. A person familiar with the Cavs' thinking said the team is open to any and all possibilities and plans to take an aggressive approach in retooling a roster that won a league-best 66 games but failed to reach the NBA Finals.

A wild card in the Shaq talks is Wallace, who stated after the playoff loss to the Magic that he was seriously considering retirement. Cavs management has yet to speak directly with Wallace about his intentions, and as of now the club doesn't expect him to walk away from the $14 million left on his deal. If Wallace reiterated his desire to retire, it would spur buyout talks that would free up cap space immediately. Short of that, Wallace would get no money and the $14 million he is owed would come off the Cavs' books.

The idea of Shaq in Cleveland as a running mate for LeBron would present endless storylines and the delicious possibility of Kobe Bryant -- if he returns to the Lakers -- meeting his former and current nemeses in next year's Finals. The marketing people would have a field day adding a Shaq puppet to the popular Kobe & LeBron commercials. Bryant would be presented with the challenge of pursuing his fifth championship against the player he won with -- and feuded with -- in L.A. and the player who is trying to claim Bryant's title as the best player in the game.


It almost sounds too good to be true, except that it's not. Just give it some time.






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Miša Bin Ladin
Since: May 27, 2009
Posted on: June 16, 2009 4:53 pm
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Since: Jun 16, 2009
Posted on: June 16, 2009 2:33 pm
 

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

let's see....a world ranked art museum, one of the best orchestras anywhere, and the rock hall....yeah, what a dump....do some research idiot


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Since: Mar 19, 2009
Posted on: June 16, 2009 11:47 am
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Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: June 16, 2009 9:46 am
 

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Or Malone and Payton to the Kobe/Shaq Lakers that failed to win a championship with all 4 on board? Besides, Shaq joining Cleveland isnt going ot benefit the Cavs the way Garnett benefited Boston and Gasol benefited LA. The Cavs had a stellar season and a stellar final series up unitl the time they got schooled by Superman and the Justice League. And I dont think even with Shaq they could have made the final series. And if they did i dont think they could of gotton past LA. But the Cavs will do all they can to try and amke the Cavs a championship team and hopefully keep the King in Cleveland.



Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: June 16, 2009 9:45 am
 

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Or Malone and Payton to the Kobe/Shaq Lakers that failed to win a championship with all 4 on board? Besides, Shaq joining Cleveland isnt going ot benefit the Cavs the way Garnett benefited Boston and Gasol benefited LA. The Cavs had a stellar season and a stellar final series up unitl the time they got schooled by Superman and the Justice League. And I dont think even with Shaq they could have made the final series. And if they did i dont think they could of gotton past LA. But the Cavs will do all they can to try and amke the Cavs a championship team and hopefully keep the King in Cleveland.



Since: Apr 11, 2008
Posted on: June 16, 2009 8:06 am
 

Lebron says no

No way Lebron lets this happen. He talks to Kobe and after LA won one of the first questions was how does it feel to lose the Shaq shadow and he said it was like a ton off his back - really think LBJ wants Shaq to come here and get a title and then have the Shaq stigma follow you till you get another one without him? If this does happen though it would be great for the Cavs - they would have the one guy in the league Howard cant back down and the Lakers 3 bigs couldnt cover straight up. Having a big man that commands double teams along with the perimeter play we already have would make the game so much easier for LBJ. Wouldnt be a bad deal for Phoenix either - they save alot of cash and get a kid like Sasha who given minutes can get you 14 pts 5 boards ightly in that system.



Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: June 15, 2009 11:30 pm
 

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time   (reposted to check odd score)

So I'm not seeing the problem. The Phoenix Suns don't want him and the Cleveland Cavaliers would benefit from having him down low. The cavs can't do any worse. At the very least at least they would have a second player on the team. O'neal is still quite capable of helping the RIGHT team out. He's not a save-all for just any team. I personally think Lebron would take all the pressure off O'neal allowing him to just go to work. The Cavs need a second or third option and o'neal would fit that role without the pressure of the whole franchise resting on his ever growing laurels.

Orlando magic, now there is a team that is so close to being good. Basically the Magic are the Chris Webber, Bibby, Divac Sacramento Kings of the east. That Sacramento team if in the east at that time would have been a finals team, I believe. So what do the magic need? At the point you have Nelson and Alston, will Nelson return to form or will he catch Grant Hill-itus? Alston, I think is expendable. I'm wondering if Billups over in Denver is thinking the Nuggets are talented but not championship quality? If the magic could work a trade for Billups they would be #1 in the east and I think a shoe-in for a repeat trip to the finals. I don't believe Lebron with all the help that team needs to become serious contenders will make it next year. Even with O'neal.

Boston Celtics? Do they have another run left in them? I see them as the Final Kobe/Shaq Lakers team who was loaded but got to old in the end. June is a long run for weathered players and I don't think they have it in them to really push themselves. Trades no trades won't make a difference. Their time is up.
 
Chicago Bulls, now theres a team that with a move or two could be right there. Maybe another Sun heads east to fill a hole and they surprise everyone with a 7 game series in the conference finals.

Miami Heat are going nowhere next year. yeah I said nowhere. Atlanta Hawks are in the same position. Now the New York Knicks are young and restless, they just need to work on defense and could make a splash.

In the west you have the Lakers, can they keep that drive alive another year? Will Phil be back? Can they add a piece that makes the team a little fresher and a little better? If they keep the same roster, obviously without, uh, Morrison/Yue, they are still right there.

San Antonio Spurs need a large helping of fresh blood, maybe even trading a previously untouchable player. You never know.

Phoenix Suns, I mean Steve Nash and the new guys are starting over. Maybe trade Nash to Orlando magic and get them guys running. That be a dangerous team with Steve there.

L.A. Clippers? Will they show up for this season or just collect paychecks?

Denver Nuggets? Chauncey or no Chauncey means chance or no chance.

Utah jazz, well if they could, in theory, get Duncan they might actually be dangerous but thats the only way.

Seattle Sonics? Just kidding.

Oh, Dallas Mavericks, hmmm, I think Cuban might just retool. It's time to shake up the team.

Houston Rockets should figure out which player to build around. I would go with the one who isn't injured. OOP's they are always injured. They should play Mcgrady half the season then Yao the other half and see which one makes it to the playoffs. What do you do ?

The New Orleans Hornets are a very quiet team. They have Chris Paul but then who else? Stoudemire and Paul? Could be promising.

I don't think any team outside the ones i mentioned are really going to be in a position next April to make any noise. There should be some bigtime movements on some key teams that should make next years season and playoffs even more of a show than this year.
Can't wait for the trade rumors to start. Course I'm no contract expert so who knows what will happen.

What do you think?



Since: Dec 9, 2008
Posted on: June 15, 2009 11:19 pm
 

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Duncan to the Jazz in theory, Billups in theory, Miami, yeah, going nowhere, New York just needs to play D, we know they can score. 



Since: Nov 23, 2006
Posted on: June 15, 2009 9:23 pm
 

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

If the Cavs were to go down this road it would give Shaq a new nickname "The BIG BUST" The Cavs have the right idea about getting someone who can help control Howard. I think they should go after the Suns other big man Amare if they really want to get serious about winning the title. Sure Shaq was able to be pretty productive but he isn't getting any younger at 38 next year. Amares young and if he bonds well with Bron they that might be a good enough reason to stay with the Cavs.



Since: Dec 18, 2008
Posted on: June 15, 2009 8:07 pm
 

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Badasssac,

Are you actually thinking about the things you are typing?  Miami Heat going nowhere, but the Knicks will make a splash?  You mention Duncan going to the Utah Jazz if he wants too?  Billups going to O-Town?  Billups is thrilled to be in Denver (I believe that is where he is from too).



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