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Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Posted on: June 14, 2009 3:53 pm
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Cavaliers are taking an aggressive posture as they head into the draft and free-agent period, so it was only a matter of time before the Shaquille O'Neal talks heated up again.

Several media outlets began reporting Sunday that the Cavs and Suns have reignited talks about sending Shaq to Cleveland to help LeBron James in his quest for a championship. There wasn't much to reignite in the first place; widely hyped discussions involving O'Neal at the trade deadline were never on the verge of producing a deal. An executive familiar with the situation told Sunday that the situation hasn't evolved much since then, expressing surprise at the flurry of reports. 

But when you have two teams desperate to move assets -- Phoenix with Shaq's $20 million expiring contract, and Cleveland with Ben Wallace's $14 million expiring contract and Sasha Pavlovic's partially guaranteed deal -- smoke often gives way to fire. Throw in the fact that the Cavs are coming off a debilitating loss to Orlando in the conference finals and an embarrassing week that featured a false report about coach Mike Brown's future, and you can see why the time may be right to shift to focus to the team's pursuit of O'Neal.

The executive involved in the teams' dealings said he fully expects the O'Neal situation to move to the forefront once the clubs begin fully exploring their options in the draft and free agency, which begins next month. The Suns, coming off a 46-win, non-playoff season, are highly motivated to move O'Neal in a bid to avoid paying luxury tax. Acquiring Wallace and Pavlovic, whose $4.9 million contract is only guaranteed for $1.5 million next season, would save Phoenix as much as $10 million, including luxury tax savings.

The Cavs view Pavlovic's partial guarantee and several players on minimum deals as a built-in trade exception they can use to improve the roster and give LeBron the big man he needs to compete for a championship at the highest level. A person familiar with the Cavs' thinking said the team is open to any and all possibilities and plans to take an aggressive approach in retooling a roster that won a league-best 66 games but failed to reach the NBA Finals.

A wild card in the Shaq talks is Wallace, who stated after the playoff loss to the Magic that he was seriously considering retirement. Cavs management has yet to speak directly with Wallace about his intentions, and as of now the club doesn't expect him to walk away from the $14 million left on his deal. If Wallace reiterated his desire to retire, it would spur buyout talks that would free up cap space immediately. Short of that, Wallace would get no money and the $14 million he is owed would come off the Cavs' books.

The idea of Shaq in Cleveland as a running mate for LeBron would present endless storylines and the delicious possibility of Kobe Bryant -- if he returns to the Lakers -- meeting his former and current nemeses in next year's Finals. The marketing people would have a field day adding a Shaq puppet to the popular Kobe & LeBron commercials. Bryant would be presented with the challenge of pursuing his fifth championship against the player he won with -- and feuded with -- in L.A. and the player who is trying to claim Bryant's title as the best player in the game.

It almost sounds too good to be true, except that it's not. Just give it some time.


Since: Feb 14, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2009 6:44 am

Wadefan is dead on!!!

wow Wadefan,you really have it together bro!!!!  I also detest Lebron!  And Shaq!  And I too love the Indiana Pacers!  You are my favorite poster ever!  Keep up the gripping "journalism!

Since: Feb 14, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2009 6:40 am

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

I'm from Indiana,so I have no desire to "be doggin on" the state of Ohio!  Anyways, I think my pick for most obnoxious "washed up" athlete IS Shaq and my pick for most obnoxious current star IS Lebron.  I would have to hate the Cavs even more than I already do if this deal did go through!!!!  By the way,one of my biggest beefs with Lebron is probably stupid to most people.....I hate that he won't give us the "respect" of showing some fake humility.  Yeah,that's right,most NBA players are probably just as cocky as Lebron,but they at least pretend to show some form of humbleness (is that a word?---don't sound right) from time to time.  So, in essence,I detest his honesty!!!!  Go Pacers (in the draft)!

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: June 15, 2009 5:58 am

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

While this is true, we all know every Batman needs a Robin.....the real problem is, Shaq is not good enough to be a Robin to LBJ.  Look how he imploded that team in Phoenix - what a joke.  Shaq needs to retire, he's a distraction for any team working towards a title and has taken over from Kobe the mantle of most selfish player in the NBA.

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: June 15, 2009 5:31 am

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

LOL are you kidding me.  THe only way you could compare detroit to cleveland is on a jealousy level.  Parma is a great town.  Very nice suburbs.  Lets compare though shall we.  Hell i`ve lived in both cities and can make the comparisons.  And detroit my friend is not nicknamed the midwest fallujiah for its diverse arabic delicatessan selections that line michigan ave.  But here are a few things i`ve experienced/seen since i`ve lived in detroit`s "thriving suburbs".

Go to the walmart on telegraph road in Taylor.  Any night of the week it is completely filled with garbage.  Watch your car anywhere in "Taylortucky" (as reffered to by the locals).  Rednecks in this town will steal your license plate to use on their trailors. Take a drive through vilalge green of taylor on eureka.  As you drive through the complex people will flick lighters in dark windows as a signal that crack is for sale.

Feel free to take a stroll down joy and telegraph in redford.  While you are there be sure to admire the architecture of detroits modern art of the arson ridden buildings and wonderful used heroin syringes as well as other debris that fills the pot holed  streets.  Be sure to bring a gun and keep a look out for the "joy-boys".  A local gang.

For a real treat get off the I-94 exit for inkster road and make a left for a tour of the absolutely thriving community of inkster.  The primary industry here is drug dealing and gang banging.  Be sure to run every single red light possible.  Car jackings are extremely frequent.  Never ever leave your car.  Locals refer to this city as "saigon".  Even more stunning is the fact that this stand alone warzone is right smack in the middle of suburbs and 2 citys away from detroit itself.

Allen park played host to a man who just the other month when being evicted from his home opened fire on police officers and shot one.  A massive standoff between him and the swat team endured for over 9 hours until ultimately he was shot and killed.  Police with machineguns,a tank,and a helicopter that landed in the middle of allen road were just a few of the many wonderful pieces of scenery on just another ordinary afternoon in a "thriving" downriver

Now I won`t be completely biased.  Royal oak is a really cool city.  Thats about the limitations though...

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Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: June 15, 2009 12:57 am

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

personally i don't care what they say about the title if we get one. if they say LBJ couldn't win w/o shaaq, that's on LBJ. not me. i'll be at the parade telling detroit and pittsburgh to suc kit.


Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: June 15, 2009 12:54 am

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

what are you, the daughter of a terrorist? if that's your real name, you are stupid. like 95% of the hitlers in the world changed their name. the rest are still holding out hope nazi's will win over our hearts.

 if it's a made up name, you are less than stupid.

you went out of your way to crow bar an attack on the city of cleveland. get a map, lordstown and youngstown are not suburbs of cleveland.all but 2 of those cities are not even in the county.  and yeah, it tough around here. but there has never been anyone in america that has ever said " i wish i was in detroit". if cleveland is the sphincter, detroit is the shi it.

shouldn't you be crying about how syd the kids didn't shake drapers hand?

oh and what's it been, 1900+ days since you beat the buckeyes?

let's see...
red wings?-choke
lions?- 0-16
pistons?- do they still have a team?
wolverines?  at least they are not as bad as the lions.

so seek solice in your 2 thriving suburbs. it's not like you can find any joy in your sports teams. which is probably why half your posts are about lebron.


notice how i don't know any of your suburbs? know why? cause NO ONE DOES!

Since: Nov 1, 2006
Posted on: June 15, 2009 12:35 am

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

well you've proven you can read an atlas, that's about it.  You rattled off 6 completely unrelated northeast ohio suburbs, some of them actually pretty remote from cleveland.  I don't know where Copley and Lordstown are and I lived in Cleveland for 31 years.
Does it make you feel more signifigant to pick city that can't actually defend itself?  And, ooooh, how cutting razz Cleveland.  Remotely funny in 1976.  So not are you 33 years late but not particularly clever.  But that's besides the point- you did briefly address the trade so I'll give you that.

And personally I don't like it either, I don't think it upgrades the position and what happens to Z? I'm genuinely curious- does he move to F?- Anyway LBJ needs help 82 games  year, Shaq suits up for 40 on average.  Shaq is for a market that needs to sell tickets, the cavs will sell out already.

so...who is the missing piece?  I hope we find out, I can't go through the whole '010 season.."does he stay or does ehe go (LBJ)?"

Incidentally, Cleveland is not worse than Detroit.  Been there too.  But I take no pleasure disgracing either city.  Nor should you, Einstein.

Since: Aug 6, 2008
Posted on: June 15, 2009 12:27 am

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Hey Bin Ladin, That "filthy arse of America" is your future. Actually, your future will probably be worse seeing as how your labor force was a bunch of unskilled, overpaid hacks. Enjoy!

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: June 14, 2009 11:53 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Aww.... You two pack fudge together over in Detwat?  Cute

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: June 14, 2009 11:49 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

I cannot stand how ESPN makes such a big deal out of this.  They spent more time covering this than the NBA Finals.  It does not matter what Lebron does; he will make the headlines just for the sake of it.  And they talk like Shaq is that missing piece to the Cavs championship run b/c he has the inside post presence to stop Dwight Howard.  They make it sound like he is this dominant superstar big man like he was when he was on the Magic and when he won 3 titles with the Lakers when he is, in reality, a washed up, very immobile 7 foot 1 basketball player.  ESPN makes it seem that all of a sudden, if he is brought in, they have the solution to stop Howard.  There is no way that some washed up player will be able to stop Superman, who is way too athletic for Shaq.  They think that because of his size, he will be able to do it, and although they need a center who plays the post and gobbles up rebounds and who can contain Howard, a player in the twilight of their career is not going be able to limit Superman.  This is a total panic move because Cavs management fears that if they cannot win a title, LeBron will leave.  And he will be gone if they do not win.  He wears a Yankees hat when he speaks to reporters the day after his team is eliminated and he is like a basketball diva.  I believe that he craves the spotlight of a big market and realizes that big free agents are not going to sign in Cleveland; the city is in a small market in Middle America without any wow factor of a Chicago, NY, LA, or even Miami or Orlando.  And although the Suns are not going anywhere and Shaq has a high salary, why would they trade him for a washed up Ben Wallace and a player in Sasha Pavlovic who does not know how to shoot a basketball.  Cleveland has more problems than just lacking an inside game.  LeBron does not have enough talent around him to win a title.  The only reason why the Cavs record was so good is because he is a freak of nature and made his teammates better.  He could have won on the Knicks teams during the Isiah era and on their pathetic team this year as well as other laughing stocks.  Take him off that team, and the Cavs are a lottery team.  Unless they do not improve the team around him, and that includes not trading for a washed up big man, the Cavs will not be able to beat Orlando with Howard or Boston with a healthy Garnett and he will be in the Big Apple come 2010.

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