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Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Posted on: June 14, 2009 3:53 pm
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Cavaliers are taking an aggressive posture as they head into the draft and free-agent period, so it was only a matter of time before the Shaquille O'Neal talks heated up again.

Several media outlets began reporting Sunday that the Cavs and Suns have reignited talks about sending Shaq to Cleveland to help LeBron James in his quest for a championship. There wasn't much to reignite in the first place; widely hyped discussions involving O'Neal at the trade deadline were never on the verge of producing a deal. An executive familiar with the situation told Sunday that the situation hasn't evolved much since then, expressing surprise at the flurry of reports. 

But when you have two teams desperate to move assets -- Phoenix with Shaq's $20 million expiring contract, and Cleveland with Ben Wallace's $14 million expiring contract and Sasha Pavlovic's partially guaranteed deal -- smoke often gives way to fire. Throw in the fact that the Cavs are coming off a debilitating loss to Orlando in the conference finals and an embarrassing week that featured a false report about coach Mike Brown's future, and you can see why the time may be right to shift to focus to the team's pursuit of O'Neal.

The executive involved in the teams' dealings said he fully expects the O'Neal situation to move to the forefront once the clubs begin fully exploring their options in the draft and free agency, which begins next month. The Suns, coming off a 46-win, non-playoff season, are highly motivated to move O'Neal in a bid to avoid paying luxury tax. Acquiring Wallace and Pavlovic, whose $4.9 million contract is only guaranteed for $1.5 million next season, would save Phoenix as much as $10 million, including luxury tax savings.

The Cavs view Pavlovic's partial guarantee and several players on minimum deals as a built-in trade exception they can use to improve the roster and give LeBron the big man he needs to compete for a championship at the highest level. A person familiar with the Cavs' thinking said the team is open to any and all possibilities and plans to take an aggressive approach in retooling a roster that won a league-best 66 games but failed to reach the NBA Finals.

A wild card in the Shaq talks is Wallace, who stated after the playoff loss to the Magic that he was seriously considering retirement. Cavs management has yet to speak directly with Wallace about his intentions, and as of now the club doesn't expect him to walk away from the $14 million left on his deal. If Wallace reiterated his desire to retire, it would spur buyout talks that would free up cap space immediately. Short of that, Wallace would get no money and the $14 million he is owed would come off the Cavs' books.

The idea of Shaq in Cleveland as a running mate for LeBron would present endless storylines and the delicious possibility of Kobe Bryant -- if he returns to the Lakers -- meeting his former and current nemeses in next year's Finals. The marketing people would have a field day adding a Shaq puppet to the popular Kobe & LeBron commercials. Bryant would be presented with the challenge of pursuing his fifth championship against the player he won with -- and feuded with -- in L.A. and the player who is trying to claim Bryant's title as the best player in the game.

It almost sounds too good to be true, except that it's not. Just give it some time.


Since: Oct 21, 2006
Posted on: June 14, 2009 11:40 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

What is the point of your post other than to criticize cleveland were talking BASKETBALL here not civics

Since: Nov 14, 2008
Posted on: June 14, 2009 11:34 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Whoever thinks Shaq would be a bench player on the Cavs is an idiot and didn't watch him play much last year.

Debating Cleveland v. Detroit is kind of like debating which is worse...getting punch in the left nut or the right nut. IMO, Cleveland is a lot better if we must debate this.

I hope the Suns do not make this trade. Ben Wallace is utterly worthless and I cannot think of a guy less suited to the Suns style than Wallace. They rarely have a guy on the floor that isn't a scoring threat and they've experimented with the whole let's play one guy in the five that's really good at defense and they still have no defense. The Suns are back to the run and gun, which is fine, but bringing in Wallace, even to free up some cash, is ridiculous.

Since: Jun 14, 2009
Posted on: June 14, 2009 11:13 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Last I checked you can still walk to the Indians games with out getting mugged.

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: June 14, 2009 11:11 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

I would rather see a LBJ/Mo/Delonte/Wade/Shaq starting 5.

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: June 14, 2009 11:07 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

I would take a 37 year old former All-Star, multiple ring, 7 foot machine who averaged 17pts, 9rebs, 60% FG anyday!  Yes we already have a center, but Z has a length of a center but the mass of a forward.  He was getting pushed around during the Orlando series.  Everytime Howard had the ball inside, Z was always 1 step too slow.  I believe a motivated Shaq coming to Cleveland will be the answer.

Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: June 14, 2009 11:04 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

This is one of the most ignorant ideas I have ever heard. Get another center that can shoot the ball and has a pair of knees that a Ferrari's worth of work done to them. If this move goes off... James is gone. Also, why ( assuming the nba isn't an extension of the WWE) would a team that competes against another take a contract that will not produce on a par with its monetary value? The Cavs could take the same money and get more points, blocks, rebounds from cheaper players and still get rid of the dead weight that is Ben Wallace.

Since: Mar 29, 2007
Posted on: June 14, 2009 10:44 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time


1. Medina was industrial at one point?! Uh, dude, it's always been farmland and is beautiful. Some multi-million dollar house developments.

But the Parma part I agree with :)   but Medina is very nice.

2. Detroit is worse than Cleveland......when I visit Windsor, I look across to Detroit, see the smoke and hear the gunshots, it's so amazing........................

Since: Mar 13, 2008
Posted on: June 14, 2009 10:06 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

I predicted this a month ago.  Shaq is the perfect stop gap until Dwight Howard and D. Wade's contract expires.

By the way, how does Berger get a -496 for this blog entry?  I posted a blog entry with no foul language that people on other sites loved and it got a -250.  Who is scoring this stuff?

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: June 14, 2009 9:13 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

The funniest part about the Cleveland bashing, is that the idiots bashing list some of the most affluent suburbs. Houses in the $300,000.00 range are considered slums. Cleveland has some bad areas, as do all big cities, but Medina, for example, is not one of them. Although, Medina is actually closer to Akron than Cleveland, but obviously dude doesn't know much about the area anyway.

Since: Jul 9, 2007
Posted on: June 14, 2009 8:43 pm

Shaq to Cavs: Give it some time

Because Toronto has exactly a 0% chance of winning the title next season and Bosh is about 99.9% leaving Toronto after next season.  Therefore, Toronto wants to get rid of him (and his contract) some time soon.  There are very few teams who are buyers this off season and the Cavs are one of them who have some young talent that they are willing to give up.  Teams are often going to just be trading for Bosh for one year (or half a year) like the CC Sabathia trade that happened where the Indians clearly didn't get equal talent at the time, but got many young players to help them out.

I really don't think too many teams are in the buyers market and would seriously persue Bosh, for only a year's worth of sure-thing play.  The only teams who are really looking to improve would be probably the top 5 teams from each conference this year, who think they have a chance at a title next year (since, afterall, he may only be there for one year and hence if he was traded for you are not getting a FRANCHISE player, but one year of a very good player).  So there's 10 teams that would go after him from that sense, then take away the teams with good PFs and you're left with maybe 5 teams who would try to get him.  The Raptors NEEEEEEED to get rid of Bosh and everyone knows that b/c he does nothing if he stays with the Raptors and he's leaving after the season, at which time the Raptors would get nothing for him.

So yes, I do see the Cavs playing a factor in trying to get Bosh even if they got Shaq.  Although it is sexy to think of LBJ/Mo/Delonte/Bosh/Shaq starting 5, that is not the sole reason I think that trade could happen.

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