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Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 1, 2009 7:26 pm
Edited on: July 2, 2009 1:00 am

The Detroit Pistons struck first Wednesday, getting commitments from their top two free-agent targets, Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.

Gordon agreed to a five-year, $55 million deal, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Villanueva also agreed to a five-year deal in the $35 million range -- or slightly above the anticipated mid-level exception of $5.6 million per year -- a person involved in those discussions said. The exact figures won't be known until the deals are signed on July 8, after the league and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.

After firing coach Michael Curry Tuesday, Pistons president Joe Dumars acted swiftly in targeting Gordon and Villanueva with the salary-cap space produced by the controversial decision to trade Chauncey Billups to the Nuggets for Allen Iverson and his $22 million expiring contract last November. But the signings posed two potential problems: 1) There isn't enough room in the same backcourt for Gordon, Richard Hamilton, and Rodney Stuckey; and 2) The Pistons will no longer be major players in the much better free-agent summer of 2010.

Not able to afford another miserable season for the mere chance that a big-ticket free agent would come to Detroit in '10, Dumars decided to strike now. The Pistons were among only a handful of teams with significant cap space this summer, and thus could dictate which players they pursued. Next summer, they might've ended up on the periphery of the excitement when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and others were looking for not only money, but also a championship-ready roster to join.

The Pistons don't have a championship roster, but they did have money. As a buyer in a seller's market, Dumars obviously felt the time to act was this summer, not next.

The backcourt logjam lends credence to the idea that Dumars isn't finished shuffling the deck this summer. Some league executives have speculated that once Dumars landed Gordon, a prolific scorer who doesn't do much else, he would begin exploring trade possibilities for Hamilton. That's somewhat ironic, given that Hamilton's contentious relationship with Curry led, in part, to the coach being fired after only one season. Hamilton has four years and nearly $50 million left on the extension he signed shortly before Billups was shipped to Denver and the demolition of the Pistons began. Moving Hamilton would give Dumars a Gordon-Stuckey backcourt, which presumably either Doug Collins or Avery Johnson -- the two front-runners to succeed Curry -- would find intriguing.

UPDATE: As he did with the Sixers' job earlier in the offseason, Collins has pulled his name out of consideration for the Pistons job, according to a person familiar with the situation. Johnson now has an unobstructed path to the job.




Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 1:06 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Miami Vice, 100 bucks you are wrong, Gordon is going to make that team at best an 8 seed in the east with an immediate ejection from the playoffs.  I have watched at least 60 Bulls games per year, ( every game with Jordan and Pip) since Ben showed up, and he will kill that team.  Just wait until they figure out that when he starts, the team will fail.  Rip is a better player.  So is Prince. 

Also, pieces of what?  Unless you are putting the peices together for a lottery selection in a couple of years.

Victor Creed
Since: Jun 8, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2009 9:57 pm
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Since: Jun 7, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2009 5:56 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I definitely agree that one needs to be traded, but I don't think it should be much of a mystery. Pistons fans have watched Rip put up good scoring numbers for years, blazing down the court with that speed and two years ago his 3 pt percent was as one of the best in the league. However, a couple reasons stand out as to why we can afford to let him go. First, although he's always put up strong scoring numbers he struggles to finish games and us Pistons fans have watched him miss game winning/game tying shots for years. There's a reason Chauncy was named Mr. Big Shot and not Rip. He's played on some great defensive teams but he himself has never been a great defensive player, we rarely match him against a team's top scorer or playmaker. Tayshaun may not be the better player of the two but he's what we need, a strong defender, bigger floor presence and a better rebounder. In my mind there's only one right move here and it's to play Stuckey, Gordon and Prince, and to deal Rip. 

Since: May 23, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2009 4:40 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I've been a Chicago Bulls fan since before the Jordan era.  I kept watching them during the Tim Floyd years and was delighted to see how tough they played against the Boston Celtics in the first round of the playoffs this year.  Ben Gordon was instrumental in the Bulls success during the their late season run and in the playoffs.  However, it was the emergence of Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah as formidable defenders, the acquisition of Brad Miller and John Salmons, and the return of Kirk Hinrich that really made the Bulls a competitive team.  I liked Gordon's ability to create space to get his shot off and his deceptively effective ability to drive to the bucket and draw contact.  However, he is definitely a defensive liability.  He can't defend bigger guards in the post, doesn't have the lateral quickness to defend quicker guards, and reaches far too much.  Gordon would be an excellent perimeter shooter to team up with scorers like LBJ, Kobe, or even Carmelo Anthony.  I also agree that he is one of the best 6th men in the league.  As a primary scoring option, he is limited and for that reason, I think the Pistons over reached.  Honestly, the Bulls will be better off without him.  They will improve defensively and others will have achance to develop their outside shooting.  Plus, Gordon will have a hard time defending any of the Bulls guards.

Since: Feb 10, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2009 4:12 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Trade both to the Celtics and give the Pistons Rondo and somebody else.

Since: Jul 7, 2008
Posted on: July 2, 2009 4:11 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Where do they rank in the power rankings in the East now???  

Forget the 2010 Free Agency, the Pistons are putting their pieces together now. They now move up in the East from an 8 seed last yr. They signed two guys who can score and put up big numbers. We all now what BG is capable of from watching him on the Bulls the last few yrs and the playoffs of this past yr. Charlie V is capable of putting up 20 points on any given night. He didn't play a lot minutes for a bad  Bucks team but he is a very solid young player that has something to prove. He will play with an intensity to prove as a very legit starter in this league. 

They still need a center bc Sheed will probably be moving to another team. Their left with Kwame Brown at the center position but if they can upgrade that postion, you have to move the Pistons at least to number 5 in the East.    

Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2009 2:48 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I think you mean buyer in a BUYER'S market.

Since: Jul 17, 2008
Posted on: July 2, 2009 2:47 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I think this is a better move for the Chicago Bulls by having Ben Gordon sign with the Pistons.  Gordon has been like a "drug" over the past few seasons.  He can light it up for 40 points, scoring 14 in the 4th quarter, and be absolutely wonderful...OR he can not play defense, which is always, and wonder why the hell did I just take that?  Good luck Joe Dumars and Detroit.  I am sure there are going to be Bulls fans that are going to absolutely hate not having him, but its just like quitting cold will all pass in time.  In a strange way, I think the Bulls are closer to an NBA Championship without Gordon than with him.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2009 1:54 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Why are you putting Rajon Rondo and Ray Allen in this lineup?  Charlie V and Ben Gordon signed with Detroit, not Boston.

Since: Mar 16, 2007
Posted on: July 2, 2009 1:44 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Dumars is going to show us why he's a top 5 GM. While his draft picks have been suspect, he has always been able to create deals. Look for him to ship Prince to the Clippers for Chris Kaman. The Piston need a big and the Clippers will try to move one of their's. Joe will also partner with Dallas in a deal that would send the last piece of the Championship team packing. Detroit will ship Hamliton to Dallas in exchange for Josh Howard. The Piston starting lineup will be:

pg- Rodney Stuckey
sg- Ben Gordon
sf- Josh Howard
pf- Charlie Villanueva
c- Chirs Kaman

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