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Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 1, 2009 7:26 pm
Edited on: July 2, 2009 1:00 am
 

The Detroit Pistons struck first Wednesday, getting commitments from their top two free-agent targets, Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.

Gordon agreed to a five-year, $55 million deal, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Villanueva also agreed to a five-year deal in the $35 million range -- or slightly above the anticipated mid-level exception of $5.6 million per year -- a person involved in those discussions said. The exact figures won't be known until the deals are signed on July 8, after the league and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.

After firing coach Michael Curry Tuesday, Pistons president Joe Dumars acted swiftly in targeting Gordon and Villanueva with the salary-cap space produced by the controversial decision to trade Chauncey Billups to the Nuggets for Allen Iverson and his $22 million expiring contract last November. But the signings posed two potential problems: 1) There isn't enough room in the same backcourt for Gordon, Richard Hamilton, and Rodney Stuckey; and 2) The Pistons will no longer be major players in the much better free-agent summer of 2010.

Not able to afford another miserable season for the mere chance that a big-ticket free agent would come to Detroit in '10, Dumars decided to strike now. The Pistons were among only a handful of teams with significant cap space this summer, and thus could dictate which players they pursued. Next summer, they might've ended up on the periphery of the excitement when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and others were looking for not only money, but also a championship-ready roster to join.

The Pistons don't have a championship roster, but they did have money. As a buyer in a seller's market, Dumars obviously felt the time to act was this summer, not next.

The backcourt logjam lends credence to the idea that Dumars isn't finished shuffling the deck this summer. Some league executives have speculated that once Dumars landed Gordon, a prolific scorer who doesn't do much else, he would begin exploring trade possibilities for Hamilton. That's somewhat ironic, given that Hamilton's contentious relationship with Curry led, in part, to the coach being fired after only one season. Hamilton has four years and nearly $50 million left on the extension he signed shortly before Billups was shipped to Denver and the demolition of the Pistons began. Moving Hamilton would give Dumars a Gordon-Stuckey backcourt, which presumably either Doug Collins or Avery Johnson -- the two front-runners to succeed Curry -- would find intriguing.

UPDATE: As he did with the Sixers' job earlier in the offseason, Collins has pulled his name out of consideration for the Pistons job, according to a person familiar with the situation. Johnson now has an unobstructed path to the job.

 


 

Comments

Since: Feb 26, 2007
Posted on: July 2, 2009 2:09 am
 

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Ben Gordon sucks.  The Pistons can have him.  Detroit fans, be ready to have quite a few moments where you say to yourself "WTF is this guy doing/thinking?"  I'm just happy I can watch the Bulls without this scumbag



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2009 2:05 am
 

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

don't ever compare villanueva to rasheed wallace again under any circumstances ..thats just insane



Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2009 2:03 am
 

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

what happened to joe dumars gordon is ok im not a huge fan but i can see the points and his style fitting he is not a ball hog like iverson he is actually alot like hamilton except younger but villanueva??/ he's a stiff at best on  a bad team his attitude has always been in question and he has never won makes zero sense to me ..and trading prince makes as much sense as signing villanueva..i'd love to see MY SOURS get prince that'd be great



Since: Mar 29, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2009 1:21 am
 

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I believe it's gotta be rip. With gordon and stuckey shooting the jumpers. Prince still plays tough D. And Avery needs guys committing to defense. I still believe they gave gordon too much moolah. He gets hot,  but does do some disappearing acts at times.



Since: Jul 1, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2009 1:13 am
 

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)






Since: Jan 13, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2009 12:47 am
 

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Ben Gordon didnt get that much to come off the bench.  There is not enough shots to go around between Stuckey, Gordon and Hamilton.  Hamilton is frail and whines incessently which gets lost with the focus on Sheed. Do you see Rip guarding Lebron, Paul Pierce, etc. NO. Watch for Joe to send Hamilton, maybe a promising youngster in Afflalo or Bynum plus draft pick, maybe cash considerations in a sign and trade for someone like Amare. I hope Villanueva can atleast give us like 12 and 6.


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Posted on: July 1, 2009 11:55 pm
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Since: Mar 3, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 11:49 pm
 

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

From one Piston fan to another- ARE YOU SERIOUS? The fact is, NO ONE ELSE wanted either of these guys. That has got to tell you something about how pathetic these signings really are.

Gordon blows, pure and simple. Bulls fans are laughing their asses off right now that the Pistons just tripled this clown's salary. He makes Rip look like Michael Jordan, for god's sake. He can't defend anyone and he is maddeningly inconsistent. The fact that the Pistons now have 3 shooting guards on their roster in Rip, Gordon and Stuckey and are paying these three somewhere in the neighborhood of $24 million? what a pathetic joke.

Villanueva is "awesome"? I guess no-one told that to the Milwaukee Bucks, who didn't even consider re-signing this bum after 3 sub-par years.  I guess if he isn't good enough for the Bucks, he must be "on the way up"? This jackass is more interested in twittering to his fans than actually working on his weak-ass game.

As a Piston fan, I am disgusted. We will be lucky to be .500 for the next few years. The Pistons would have been better off spending $18 million/year re-signing Iverson; at least he has some damn talent.




Since: Jun 1, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 11:48 pm
 

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I'm not as thrilled with the Villanueva signing, as he is a pretty up and down player. But I love Ben Gordon's game! It's been a long time since the Pistons had a guy who could regularly shoot and score 30+ in a game. He was the main reason that Chicago was able to hang with the Celtics in the opening round this past season. In my opinion, this is a no-lose situation for the Pistons. The Pistons could use Rip as trade bait and probably get a decent big man in return, especially if he's packaged with Tayshaun. Or, the Pistons could bring Gordon off the bench and we could have two of the better shooters in the NBA. Couple the two of them with Rodney Stuckey and the Pistons would suddenly have a nice backcourt again. I know that Stuckey regressed a bit this year, but depending on who the next coach is, he could still achieve some of his potential in the next few years (I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Avery Johnson, and not Doug Collins). My only concern right now is who will play center. Rasheed is gone most likely, and there's a strong chance that McDyess will leave also. Amir Johnson has also been traded. Right now, the only two centers on the Pistons' roster are Kwame Brown and Fabricio Oberto. And the only power forwards are Maxiell and Villanueva. Maybe Rip or Tayshaun are going to be shopped for a big man? Bosh? Amare?


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