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Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 1, 2009 7:26 pm
Edited on: July 2, 2009 1:00 am

The Detroit Pistons struck first Wednesday, getting commitments from their top two free-agent targets, Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.

Gordon agreed to a five-year, $55 million deal, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Villanueva also agreed to a five-year deal in the $35 million range -- or slightly above the anticipated mid-level exception of $5.6 million per year -- a person involved in those discussions said. The exact figures won't be known until the deals are signed on July 8, after the league and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.

After firing coach Michael Curry Tuesday, Pistons president Joe Dumars acted swiftly in targeting Gordon and Villanueva with the salary-cap space produced by the controversial decision to trade Chauncey Billups to the Nuggets for Allen Iverson and his $22 million expiring contract last November. But the signings posed two potential problems: 1) There isn't enough room in the same backcourt for Gordon, Richard Hamilton, and Rodney Stuckey; and 2) The Pistons will no longer be major players in the much better free-agent summer of 2010.

Not able to afford another miserable season for the mere chance that a big-ticket free agent would come to Detroit in '10, Dumars decided to strike now. The Pistons were among only a handful of teams with significant cap space this summer, and thus could dictate which players they pursued. Next summer, they might've ended up on the periphery of the excitement when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and others were looking for not only money, but also a championship-ready roster to join.

The Pistons don't have a championship roster, but they did have money. As a buyer in a seller's market, Dumars obviously felt the time to act was this summer, not next.

The backcourt logjam lends credence to the idea that Dumars isn't finished shuffling the deck this summer. Some league executives have speculated that once Dumars landed Gordon, a prolific scorer who doesn't do much else, he would begin exploring trade possibilities for Hamilton. That's somewhat ironic, given that Hamilton's contentious relationship with Curry led, in part, to the coach being fired after only one season. Hamilton has four years and nearly $50 million left on the extension he signed shortly before Billups was shipped to Denver and the demolition of the Pistons began. Moving Hamilton would give Dumars a Gordon-Stuckey backcourt, which presumably either Doug Collins or Avery Johnson -- the two front-runners to succeed Curry -- would find intriguing.

UPDATE: As he did with the Sixers' job earlier in the offseason, Collins has pulled his name out of consideration for the Pistons job, according to a person familiar with the situation. Johnson now has an unobstructed path to the job.




Since: Mar 3, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 10:43 pm

Absolute garbage

I am very, very dissapointed with the players the Pistons signed today. They start by signing Ben Gordon, an undersized two who cannot guard anyone, to an absurd contract and then signed a maddeningly inconsistant forward for $7M a year.

It has become obvious that instead of blowing up this team like they needed to do in order to get a good lottery pick and actually get good in 2 years, they are content to field a mediocre .500 team that will get smoked in the first round for the next 5 years. Absolutely pathetic.

I always give Dumars the benefit of the doubt, but these signings are pathetic. Just pathetic.

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 10:18 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Hamilton will be traded for an expiring contract so that the Pistons still might be able to chase another player in the 2010 free agency frenzy

Nice. Another very logical post and possibility. If they dump Rip for a draft pick, and they let prince go after this season (which they will) that'll give them 21 million for the big free agency period next year. Add one big name to play with Charlie, Gordon and Stuckey and you might have a contender. You also would have a very young team that would be competitive for years again.

Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 10:18 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Hope their happy with a very small SG that cannot play an ounce of D and a guy who twitters during halftime.  Being a bulls fan, I strongly remember the old bad boys teams and the tough style the Pistons played.  Guess that is now completely gone....

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 10:13 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Hamilton and Prince for Bosh might be a reality, because it certainly was a strong rumour a while back from "sources".  Bosh has told toronto he will test the free agent market.  Detroit drops 21 million dollars per year in salaries and with a little help from toronto on a sign and trade overpays for Bosh ( if thats even possible for a great player like him).   You would now have Bosh and Villanueva in your front court with Stuckey and Gordon in the back.. not a bad start. Toronto would have Rip for 3 more years or so after this one and cap space relief when Prince's contract expires after the season freeing up 10 million dollars a year. Good for both teams.

As for Gordon and all non pistons fans crazy comments, 2 words for you guys. GROW UP !  You can hate a team and be honest for god sakes. The kid is 26, scores 20 points a game, shoots 45 from the floor overall and 40 from 3 point range. It takes an offensive great coaching and years to become a great defensive player. Give him time. This was a great signing.

Villanueva is an awesome signing as well. He's on his way up, he's young and was a top pick in the draft.

Good Job Joey Dumars.

Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: July 1, 2009 10:08 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

All this is pure speculation because in truth we do not know. What one players does in one city does not mean he will do that in another. (diff sport but moss in oakland compared to new england). Gordon can shoot and when he is on watch out its nasty. But he has never played what we call super defense but who is to say he cant mature and learn. I say wait and see what Gordon and Big V do for the pistons. We can all claim to know this and that but all we know is what they have done. I say good luck to the pistons and i hope it works out. And They could def use rip or prince as trade bait to get a better big man like a stoudamire(spell check) form phx.

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: July 1, 2009 10:04 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Hamilton and Prince for Bosh?

Since: Mar 18, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:55 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Ben gordon has not played point guard for the Bulls.he played guard with no description if he is playing point or shooting guard.He is a shoot first guard, so describing him playing point pretty well is off the mark.The bulls should had signed him instead being put on the free agency market if he does fit their team, instead they drafted Derick Rose ( a true point guard) and put Ben Gordon on the chopping block errr free agency market.

Since: Jul 28, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:52 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Prince is the heart of detroit . Do you really wanna bring in ron artest and screw that up. Plus Prince is the hardest playing player out there for detroit. What you said was flat out stupid. Trade prince and sign artest? Are you the one getin off on the cocaine? Its not not Joe D.

Since: Apr 3, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:44 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I see Hamilton traded to get Kaman in the near future.  Or possibly trading Stuckey.
Gordon actually can play Point pretty well.

Since: Jul 1, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:43 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

This is bigger than Haq to Cavs, Carter to Magic. However, if the Cavs get Artest, that would be biggest. And Detroit, just say NO to Doug Collins.

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