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Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 1, 2009 7:26 pm
Edited on: July 2, 2009 1:00 am

The Detroit Pistons struck first Wednesday, getting commitments from their top two free-agent targets, Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.

Gordon agreed to a five-year, $55 million deal, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Villanueva also agreed to a five-year deal in the $35 million range -- or slightly above the anticipated mid-level exception of $5.6 million per year -- a person involved in those discussions said. The exact figures won't be known until the deals are signed on July 8, after the league and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.

After firing coach Michael Curry Tuesday, Pistons president Joe Dumars acted swiftly in targeting Gordon and Villanueva with the salary-cap space produced by the controversial decision to trade Chauncey Billups to the Nuggets for Allen Iverson and his $22 million expiring contract last November. But the signings posed two potential problems: 1) There isn't enough room in the same backcourt for Gordon, Richard Hamilton, and Rodney Stuckey; and 2) The Pistons will no longer be major players in the much better free-agent summer of 2010.

Not able to afford another miserable season for the mere chance that a big-ticket free agent would come to Detroit in '10, Dumars decided to strike now. The Pistons were among only a handful of teams with significant cap space this summer, and thus could dictate which players they pursued. Next summer, they might've ended up on the periphery of the excitement when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and others were looking for not only money, but also a championship-ready roster to join.

The Pistons don't have a championship roster, but they did have money. As a buyer in a seller's market, Dumars obviously felt the time to act was this summer, not next.

The backcourt logjam lends credence to the idea that Dumars isn't finished shuffling the deck this summer. Some league executives have speculated that once Dumars landed Gordon, a prolific scorer who doesn't do much else, he would begin exploring trade possibilities for Hamilton. That's somewhat ironic, given that Hamilton's contentious relationship with Curry led, in part, to the coach being fired after only one season. Hamilton has four years and nearly $50 million left on the extension he signed shortly before Billups was shipped to Denver and the demolition of the Pistons began. Moving Hamilton would give Dumars a Gordon-Stuckey backcourt, which presumably either Doug Collins or Avery Johnson -- the two front-runners to succeed Curry -- would find intriguing.

UPDATE: As he did with the Sixers' job earlier in the offseason, Collins has pulled his name out of consideration for the Pistons job, according to a person familiar with the situation. Johnson now has an unobstructed path to the job.




Since: Jul 18, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:41 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

This is a bad move by the Pistons. Gordon is another Iverson type player. He needs to take a lot of shots to get his offense going, he is not a good defender, rebounder or passer. They probably could have gotten Trevor Ariza to play the 2-3 off the bench for less money and he would have done more for your team than Gordon. If you are not going to save money for 2010 and get a really stud player, why not sign and trade for Amare Stoudemire. Trade Prince and Stuckey for Stoudemire. Sign Andre Miller(or Mike Bibby) and maybe Ariza. Than you have Miller (Bibby) at 1, Rip at 2, Ariza at 3, Stoudemire at 4, and Oberto/Brown rotation at 5. Bring back McDyess, you have Maxiell, Daye (1st Round pick). Now you have a team with some star power, depth and good role players.    &nb

Isn't great to play GM!

Since: Dec 14, 2006
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:40 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Good theory...I hope for you're sake you're not a Lions fan. I think most fans in this city knew the bulls blew with the Wallace signing from day 1.  You'll see how ben can be a cancer to an offense regardless of how many bad shots he makes. The problem we had here is that we needed him to score 25 to compete and he's not that good. If the Pistions need anynore than 15pts/game or 28/min out of him he'll kill you on the defenive end. HE WILL KILL YOU ON THE DEFENSIVE END.

Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:40 pm

Celtics deal

With the Pistons looking to possibly deal Prince and Hamilton the deal rumored that the Celtics wanted to make looks a little more logical...Add Stuckey to that deal...and Detroit gets back Rondo and Allen

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:33 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

If Prince leaves, it will be for something significant. The Pistons have not tried to deal him as someone said. He would be gone now if that were the case. He is a unique player that any team could find a spot for. He has been talked about in trades, but not shopped around.

Since: Apr 3, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:33 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

This is a good move for the Pistons and a great deal as well.

Since: Feb 12, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:28 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Gordon only had 4 games all last year that he scored under 10 points.

Since: Jul 30, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:27 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Poor management by the Bulls again.  A 20 ppg scorer walks for nothing.  Now, instead of being able to trade Hinrich to acquire a big with low-post scoring capabilities, the Bulls have to think about keeping him due to the loss of one of their best guards.  Dumars, meanwhile, continues to show why he is one of the best, if not the best, GM in the game.

Since: Jun 14, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:27 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Gordon will give them the same clutch shooting that Billups use to, but the real jewel is getting Charlie Villanueva. A 6'10 PF that can put the ball on the floor, take you off the dribble, post up inside, pass, and shoot!  He's basically Lamar Odom with a scorer's mentality...thats special! He replaces Sheed who has been reduced to a slow three point shooter the lst few years. So its an immediate upgrade. And although it would be nice to have three Huskies (my favorite college hoops team by the way) on the same team, it cant work because Rip isnt big or strong enough to play the SF position.  And because he makes the most out of he and Prince, he' naturally the odd man out. 

Since: Feb 24, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:26 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Bye Rip. Hello! Stoudimire!

Since: Jul 19, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:24 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

just need to add Okafor / Thabeet at center and Allen and Butler for some more scoring

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