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Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 1, 2009 7:26 pm
Edited on: July 2, 2009 1:00 am

The Detroit Pistons struck first Wednesday, getting commitments from their top two free-agent targets, Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.

Gordon agreed to a five-year, $55 million deal, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Villanueva also agreed to a five-year deal in the $35 million range -- or slightly above the anticipated mid-level exception of $5.6 million per year -- a person involved in those discussions said. The exact figures won't be known until the deals are signed on July 8, after the league and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.

After firing coach Michael Curry Tuesday, Pistons president Joe Dumars acted swiftly in targeting Gordon and Villanueva with the salary-cap space produced by the controversial decision to trade Chauncey Billups to the Nuggets for Allen Iverson and his $22 million expiring contract last November. But the signings posed two potential problems: 1) There isn't enough room in the same backcourt for Gordon, Richard Hamilton, and Rodney Stuckey; and 2) The Pistons will no longer be major players in the much better free-agent summer of 2010.

Not able to afford another miserable season for the mere chance that a big-ticket free agent would come to Detroit in '10, Dumars decided to strike now. The Pistons were among only a handful of teams with significant cap space this summer, and thus could dictate which players they pursued. Next summer, they might've ended up on the periphery of the excitement when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and others were looking for not only money, but also a championship-ready roster to join.

The Pistons don't have a championship roster, but they did have money. As a buyer in a seller's market, Dumars obviously felt the time to act was this summer, not next.

The backcourt logjam lends credence to the idea that Dumars isn't finished shuffling the deck this summer. Some league executives have speculated that once Dumars landed Gordon, a prolific scorer who doesn't do much else, he would begin exploring trade possibilities for Hamilton. That's somewhat ironic, given that Hamilton's contentious relationship with Curry led, in part, to the coach being fired after only one season. Hamilton has four years and nearly $50 million left on the extension he signed shortly before Billups was shipped to Denver and the demolition of the Pistons began. Moving Hamilton would give Dumars a Gordon-Stuckey backcourt, which presumably either Doug Collins or Avery Johnson -- the two front-runners to succeed Curry -- would find intriguing.

UPDATE: As he did with the Sixers' job earlier in the offseason, Collins has pulled his name out of consideration for the Pistons job, according to a person familiar with the situation. Johnson now has an unobstructed path to the job.




Since: Feb 24, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:18 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

For those people who did not watch bulls games this year. Ben gordon averaged 20 pts. per game. And if you watched any of the bulls games, you would have seen that the coach did not use the roster correctly. For example, in one game Gordon had 8 straight points for the bulls and the coach put him on the bench. Even though he was only on the floor for 6 minutes. Also, Dumars I feel is not done yet. There are many trades still available. Like, maybe a package deal for Stoudimire. Rumor has it in Detroit McDyess is interested in playing for the Suns. Maybe a Sign and trade of McDyess, Hamilton or Prince, and a draft pick for Stoudimire. Possible because the contracts do fit under the cap. Depending on the signing money of McDyess.

Since: Feb 25, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:16 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

SIGNING BEN GORDON is definatly a risky move.
he is a streaky shooter who can have big games and disappear in games.
rip is definatly a more consistent scorer, especially coming off screens. But with out a great ball mover in Billups, Hamilton will have a tough time playing with stuckey who is more of a slasher pg. Gordon is a better fit because he is a better 3 point shooter and is still very capable of coming off the screens and scoring.
And charlie V is exactly like Rasheed, only younger.
Both are multi-talented and have lapses during games.
But charlie wont hurt the chemistry and the team with as many techs(and you get the pre and post game tweets).
Rip would have some very good trade value except for his over the top contract.
I see them keeping Prince over hamilton.

Since: Jul 14, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:15 pm

See Ya Ben

As a Bulls fan I've watched Ben every game for the past 5 years.  Pistons fans beware, you just paid for him getting hot in a few Celtics playoff games.  When he's on, he throws everything in, but still shoots and isolates every time down the floor.  Get ready for a lot of 5 point nights from him.  Madly inconsistent and one-dimensional, I've been hoping for his departure for the past 2 years.  He's fun to watch when he's on, but he's the antithesis of winning NBA basketball.  Not a team player and one of the worst defensive guards in the league.  He does not hustle except to make a shot for himself.  It's good to see someone else in our division just wasted 11MM per year (as we did with Hinrich).  I don't even want to get into Villanueva.  You paid a stiff 8MM per!!!  Detroit fans be prepared for .500 basketball for the next 4-5 years.

Since: Feb 12, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:12 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Yeah rose is gonna be great, but wade will be playing with bosh in south beach come 2010 not in the windy city. I'm not in love with ben gordons game and all, but he's the reason the playoff series against boston even went seven games.  The games that i watched he was lights out.  He's still young too,  I think both gordon and villanueva both have some maturing to do and I think detroit might be a good place for them to start doing that.

Since: Mar 18, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:06 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

David Lee is a restricted free agent and would need an offer of at least 12 mil per year which the Knicks would probably match.

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:06 pm

Bulls fans are morons...

How can you take the Bulls and their fans seriously?  You idiots signed an aging Ben Wallace for 15 million a yr and thought you stole you lose a 20 point scorer for 11 million a yr and are ripping on the Pistons for overpaying...get a frigg'n clue...loser franchises breed loser fans.

Since: Mar 18, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:02 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Hamilton will be traded for an expiring contract so that the Pistons still might be able to chase another player in the 2010 free agency frenzy.

Since: Dec 14, 2006
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:00 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

What he gives up on the defensive end and the offensive possesions he ruins w/poor shot selection keeps other teams in games they shouldn't be in. Sometimes he'll win those games with buzzer beater but If you live and die with that, you're dead. Take him.

Since: Feb 12, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 9:00 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I think its a pretty good start as far as revamping the roster goes.  With the key word being start.  I would bet that Joe will still be doing some more wheeling and dealing.  Possible still getting someone like boozer or milsap to play with villanueva and gordon.  Although I don't really like boozer to much at least we would get his expiring contract, and then decide after this season what to do with him.  Now would something like this make the pistons a contender, I doubt it.  All I'm saying is that Joe is not done making moves, so all my fellow pistons fans don't be so quick to judge what he has done thus far but wait until the offseason is over.  I bet you there is a big deal coming soon, we have some pieces that could help certain teams(prince, hamilton,stuckey, bynum).

Since: Jun 27, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:56 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Charlie Villanueva was a very good signing as he brings more versatility to the Pistons. Ben Gordon....not so much. He leaves Detriot with a logjam at the shooting guard position. Rip Hamilton is by far much better than ben Gordon and can score throughout a season. It seems like only when theres playing time on the line, or in this case a free agent contract, Ben Gordon starts to score. He takes 20 shots a game and averages at best 25 points when he starts to get hot. And the defense is terrible. With the contract Detroit signed him to, they have no choice but to start him. Terrible move by Joe Dumars. I give your offseason an F so far.

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