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Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 1, 2009 7:26 pm
Edited on: July 2, 2009 1:00 am

The Detroit Pistons struck first Wednesday, getting commitments from their top two free-agent targets, Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.

Gordon agreed to a five-year, $55 million deal, according to a source familiar with the negotiations. Villanueva also agreed to a five-year deal in the $35 million range -- or slightly above the anticipated mid-level exception of $5.6 million per year -- a person involved in those discussions said. The exact figures won't be known until the deals are signed on July 8, after the league and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.

After firing coach Michael Curry Tuesday, Pistons president Joe Dumars acted swiftly in targeting Gordon and Villanueva with the salary-cap space produced by the controversial decision to trade Chauncey Billups to the Nuggets for Allen Iverson and his $22 million expiring contract last November. But the signings posed two potential problems: 1) There isn't enough room in the same backcourt for Gordon, Richard Hamilton, and Rodney Stuckey; and 2) The Pistons will no longer be major players in the much better free-agent summer of 2010.

Not able to afford another miserable season for the mere chance that a big-ticket free agent would come to Detroit in '10, Dumars decided to strike now. The Pistons were among only a handful of teams with significant cap space this summer, and thus could dictate which players they pursued. Next summer, they might've ended up on the periphery of the excitement when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and others were looking for not only money, but also a championship-ready roster to join.

The Pistons don't have a championship roster, but they did have money. As a buyer in a seller's market, Dumars obviously felt the time to act was this summer, not next.

The backcourt logjam lends credence to the idea that Dumars isn't finished shuffling the deck this summer. Some league executives have speculated that once Dumars landed Gordon, a prolific scorer who doesn't do much else, he would begin exploring trade possibilities for Hamilton. That's somewhat ironic, given that Hamilton's contentious relationship with Curry led, in part, to the coach being fired after only one season. Hamilton has four years and nearly $50 million left on the extension he signed shortly before Billups was shipped to Denver and the demolition of the Pistons began. Moving Hamilton would give Dumars a Gordon-Stuckey backcourt, which presumably either Doug Collins or Avery Johnson -- the two front-runners to succeed Curry -- would find intriguing.

UPDATE: As he did with the Sixers' job earlier in the offseason, Collins has pulled his name out of consideration for the Pistons job, according to a person familiar with the situation. Johnson now has an unobstructed path to the job.




Since: Apr 17, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:55 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

hopefully prince bc his defense doesnt make up for his lack of a jumper and the thin man has nothing left for the playoffs

Since: Feb 6, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:50 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I first laughed at reading this and then REALLY LAUGHED when i saw ur name! Dan Marino God? Cmon he wasnt that good! And neither is Ben Gordon! U said u cant put a price on clutch shooting? Well u can when hes THE WORST DEFENSIVE player in the NBA! TERRIBLE signing for Det and now its a GUARANTEE that the Bulls will have Dwyane Wade as Derrick Rose' backcourt mate when hes a free agent next yr! Bulls have to be LICKIN THEIR CHOPS NOW!!! They have an even better team w/o Gordon. That Rose kid is gonna be SCARY!!!

Since: Jul 23, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:48 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I'm with you on that one

Since: Sep 18, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:45 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

As a Pacers fan, if the Piston's want to get rid of Tayshaun, send him our way. He'd be a great player for the Pacers.

Since: Dec 4, 2006
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:44 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

If Ben Gordon is 6'2 I'll eat my hat.  Yeah he can shoot but he is a terrible defensive liability.  Put a bigger guard on him and he'll shut him down all day long and he'll destroy him on the other end.  Whatever he gets you in points he'll easily give back up on the other end.  Are the Pistons trying to finish in 8th again?

Since: May 7, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:38 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

So I gotta admit I might have been wrong about Gordon. I have thought for several years now that he was very over-rated. However, I just checked his "clutch" stats on and he is ranked 15th in the league in points per 48 minutes in "clutch time". According to this site, "clutch time" is "4th qtr or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points". I had always thought he often missed shots much more than he hit shots late in games and the ones he hit were the shots people focused on, but obviously I was wrong. This might be a good move for Detroit after all. It still doesn't make them contenders though. They have a LOT more work to do to become contenders and it's not going to happen overnight.

Since: Apr 24, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:37 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

We overpaid for Gordon, 6'2" shooting guard that can't play defense.  Drafted 3 small forwards, where is the rebounder and inside scorer.  I would rather of had Grotat and Villanueva.  I would liked that we would of drafted 7' 278 lb Garret Siler.  A big body that shot 79% in division II.  Siler will play in the NBA soon, he is smart and has the drive to improve.

Since: Jun 26, 2009
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:30 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

I hope they keep both and move Gordon or Hamilton to the point. Or even put Stuckey at the point and bring Rip off the bench. They still have enough $$ to get a center like Gortat too. He may not be a proven starter but I think he has earned a shot at starting somewhere.

Since: Jan 24, 2008
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:22 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

The aroma of cocaine in the streets of Detroit has gotten to Joe Dumars. Ben Gordon for 11 mil a year! what are you thinking?!?! You already have Richard Hamilton, who is Kobe Bryant compared to Gordon! Vilanueva was an okay pickup, but what about David Lee? He is a much better fit in Detroit. What about Ron Artest? I know of the incident in '04, but he is possibly the best player in this market! You should atleast try to sign him and trade Tayshaun Prince. Bad move Joe D, very bad move.

Since: Jun 28, 2007
Posted on: July 1, 2009 8:14 pm

Pistons agree with Gordon, Villanueva (UPDATE)

Gordon is also one of the worst ball handlers and a terrible defender.  He is also a very selfish player.  Ben Gordon is where basketballs go to die.  I will say when he is on, he is a very good shooter.  I do like the Villanueva signing by the Pistons.  1 for 2 ain't bad.

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