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Trading one Knick reject for another

Posted on: July 1, 2009 10:19 pm
Edited on: July 1, 2009 11:34 pm

There must be more than meets the eye when it comes to the trade reported by the Los Angeles Times in which the Clippers send Zach Randolph to the Memphis Grizzlies for Quentin Richardson. Z-Bo makes $6.6 million more than Q-Rich and has two years left on his contract as opposed to Richardson's one. Memphis is under the cap, so the trade doesn't have to satisfy the 125 percent rule. Still, the Clippers should feel fortunate to have found such a willing taker.

But let's not let that get in the way of our euphoria -- our flat-out ecstasy -- over this trade.

Quentin Richardson was one of the first bad contracts acquired by Isiah Thomas when he took over as president of the Knicks. Zach Randolph was another one. One of the worst. It was a miracle that Isiah was there to take Z-Bo from the Clippers Blazers on draft night a couple of years ago.

Now we have one bad Knicks contract traded for another one. Eureka! Mike Dunleavy and Chris Wallace, the respective GMs, have found the holy grail. Next they will pay down the federal debt, cure cancer, and meet in the Western Conference Finals.

We should all enjoy this moment, but we should be a little bit afraid. Trading one Isiah production for another is sort of like Desmond forgetting to push the button on Lost. This trade could unleash a tidal wave of forces way beyond our comprehension and control.

What's next? Eddy Curry for Jerome James?

But I digress. The real, honest-to-God basketball significance of this trade is two-fold. One, for some reason, the Grizzlies have decided to do the Clippers a favor by taking back Randolph, with two years left on his contract, in exchange for Richardson, who has only one year left. So as I mentioned, there has to be something else going on here. And two, the Grizzlies are officially out of the David Lee sweepstakes. With Randolph at power forward, the Grizzlies have no use for the Knicks' restricted free agent.

So to recap: A trade involving one obscene contract previously acquired by Isiah Thomas for another obscene contract previously acquired by Isiah Thomas results in a trade that ... helps the Knicks?

Be afraid. Be very afraid. And throw some salt over your shoulder while you're at it.


Since: Sep 28, 2007
Posted on: July 2, 2009 11:12 am

Trading one Knick reject for another

Do you call yourself a professional?  Do you have an editor or proofreader or anyone you can bounce a fact off?  That's all, a simple my mistake I apologize, not a (paraphrase) I work so hard reply.  Dude half these people can't spell and the other half can't string a comprehensible sentence together.  Relax.

Since: Sep 20, 2008
Posted on: July 2, 2009 10:37 am

Zach Randolph Gets A Bad Rap, Good Trade

This is a solid trade for the Grizz. I like it and Randolph too.. Randolph is a good player. A very good Power Forward with many basketball skills. Winning hasn't been one of them, but that's not his fault.  He played with Portland, before Roy and before Aldridge were as good as they are now.. His best sidekick there was Darius Miles, nuff said. Then he goes to the Knicks, another horrible team. 1st off all, he had to play along side a 6'8 Center in David Lee. Had to play with a back-up point guard, that was starting in Chris Duhon. And little else talent on the floor. Then, he goes to the Clippers. I don't even need to comment on the Clippers, but I will. The Clippers had a log jam of big man, Baron Davis was, of course, hurt most of Randolph time there, and playing with a rookie, shoot 1st, shooting guard in Eric Gordon. All of these situations was bad when he got there and not a good situation to win in, for any NBA player.. Despite all these bad teams, he still has gone out there and pretty much given you 20 &10.. A couple years ago, Randolph was 1 of ONLY 4 players averaging 20 & 10 at the All-Star Break, yet the other 3 got selected while Randolph watched at home.. That's sad.. Now, he goes to the Grizz. He has, not 1, but 2 up & coming wing players in O.J. Mayo and Rudy Gay. Mayo actually has a chance to be a star in this league. Decent, not great, but improving point guard in Mike Conley. And #2 pick, defensive presence, Thabeet.. They actually have a nice starting 5. I realize it takes more than this to win in the NBA, but for Memphis, its a start. A good start. Randolph allows Thabeet to come along slowly. Thabeet won have to score, Randolph & Mayo will get you 20+ with Gay getting you 16-18+.. Also, with Thabeet tall but thin frame, he won't have to rebound either. Randolph can get you 10+ boards too. So, what you get out of Thabeet, tremendous defensive presence the Grizz need, plus the rebounding and little scoring will be a plus. I like the trade. Forget Randolph contract. There are a TON of NBA contracts, where the player isn't earning the money. Randolph getting you 20 & 10, can you really say that he isn't earning his??

Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2009 9:43 am

Trading one Knick reject for another

This deal confuses me greatly.  I have to also assume that there's more to it - perhaps Marko Jaric's terrible contract sending him back to the Clippers?  Otherwise, why would the Memphis Grizzlies do this deal?   I get that they need a power forward.  I get that Zach Randolph is a great scorer and rebounder.  I get that Quentin Richardson has no future in Memphis.  I still don't get this deal.

Why would you take on a contract as brutal as Randolph's and add in his personal baggage when you could pay less and get a guy like David Lee without having to give up Q?  Lee is as good of a rebounder, and certainly doesn't have Randolph's polished offensive game, but he's also not a complete stiff offensively.

Let's see - I can pay David Lee 10M a year or less and get the PF my team needs and keep Q Richardson to use in perhaps a different trade later in the year.......or I can pay Zach Randolph 20M a year for the next two years and give up Richardson now.  What?  Memphis could use some scoring, but not at the expense of destroying your salary cap and adding a guy that's been ushered out of town everywhere he's gone.  Gay-Mayo can score, Gasol can score a little and Lee can score a little.  Pull Q off of the bench and you have some offense within your reserves.  If all else fails, package Richardson at the deadline with another player and see if you can bring in some scoring then.  Don't give in and take on a contract that will cripple you for two years.

Since: Jul 2, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2009 9:29 am

Trading one Knick reject for another

Ken Berger, you are a complete idiot.  Please quit your job.

Since: Jul 2, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2009 9:28 am

Trading one Knick reject for another

Ken Berger, you are a complete idiot. Please quit your job.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2009 9:24 am

Trading one Knick reject for another

Ya the Clippers did get him in a midseason trade but the Knicks got him from the Blazers on the day of the draft. I think you might have misread it. Either way, hilarioius trade that will help neither team in terms of quality, the Clippers will save some money though.

Since: Mar 27, 2009
Posted on: July 2, 2009 9:17 am

Trading one Knick reject for another

Shipping out Zach Randolph to make room for Blake Griffin while bringing Quentin Richardson back to where he started to give them a decent backup wingman. Since Al Thornton is one of the few guys that actually saw more than 71 games this past season and is half decent, I would think the Clippers would take advantage of Z-Bo's double double status and upgrade at center, but I guess they want Griffin to be the only true stud in the post. The Grizzlies seems to have gotten the better part of this deal as, despite their record, they arent scrubs and if Z can stay healthy will give them a decent boost.

Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: July 2, 2009 7:37 am

Trading one Knick reject for another

This is a trade that has irony all over it.  As a Knick fan, I hated to see Zach Randolph traded away and couldn't stand Quentin Richardson.  I was wondering what the Grizzlies were doing when they traded Darko Millic for Richardson on draft day.  Now I guess I know.  Even though Randolph has two years left on his contract, this is a really good trade.  The Clippers needed to trade one of their big man to make room for their draft pick Blake Griffin.  Randolph's contract may be a joke but the guy does play.  Richardson just seems to disappear for stretches of a season.  The Grizzlies have a pretty decent lineup now, though I still don't know who will score, other than Gay and Mayo.

Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2009 7:08 am

Trading one Knick reject for another

I'm glad that someone finally put nowitzki where he belongs. He should be compared to randolph they are very similar. Zach will go to the low post and bang dirk will shoot jumpers. both get about 10 rebounds. dirk is overlooked for his lack of defense because he is white and that's ok but a black guy will get lambasted for a lack of defense. dirk has won more but he has been on better teams. zack has not languished in mediocrity he has been victomized by it. when dirk gets in his teammates faces he's called a leader. when zack does this he's called a clubhouse cancer. wher's the fairness in that. the clock is ticking on zach but i think this is going to be a good situation for zach his assists will go up as well as his field goal %. hopefully randolph wont be ran off. no pun intended. Oh and i hope noone thinks i am a racist for my comments but the facts bear out.

Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: July 2, 2009 5:27 am

Trading one Knick reject for another

The Knicks acquired Z-Ro for what was (i believe, the 7th pick in the draft).

To the poster who asked who wouldn't want 20 and 9, my response is this, a non playoff team should never trade a lottery pick unless they have reason to believe they are one player away from contending. The Knicks, as even the most optimistic fans knew, not one piece away and even if they would have been, Z-Ro was not that piece.

Don't overrate the numbers. He shoots it too much, isn't good on D and doesn't hustle. While it's true that whoever they picked at 7 had over a 50% chance of never putting up 20 and 9, saying the trade made sense shows a complete lack of understanding for how the salary cap works in the NBA.

There is a strict cap in place, and one big max signing can set your team back for a decade. Z-Ro was being paid like he was Dirk Nowitzki or Chris Bosh. Watch all 3 play, and tell me Z-Ro is in the conversation with the other 2. At the end of the day, signing a guy like Z-Ro makes it impossible for a team, no matter how wealthy, to sign a great player given the rigid cap structure.

This is why I'm hoping the Knicks don't come away from 2010 with only Chris Bosh. I like Bosh but he isn't a #1 to build around, yet we all know somebody will pay him to be the back. If the Knicks can't seduce LeBron or Wade, I'd honestly hold off, be patient and build through the draft.

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