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Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 3, 2009 10:54 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2009 12:37 am
Hedo, we have a problem.

Hours after agreeing in principle to a five-year contract with the Trail Blazers, free agent Hedo Turkoglu abruptly ceased negotiations and appears headed to the Toronto Raptors, a person directly involved in the negotiations told

"Hedo is headed to Toronto," said the person, who requested anonymity due to the sensitivity of the talks. "To sign."

But after a whirlwind day in which Turkoglu and his representative, Lon Babby, gave a verbal commitment to sign with the Blazers -- or were done in by what one rival executive termed "too many leaks and not enough info" -- determining Turkoglu's final landing spot is best left to those getting the signatures.

The situation was rapidly unfolding, and it was unclear Friday night whether Turkoglu had second thoughts or Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo swooped in and played his trump card -- the fact that Turkoglu and his wife were said to prefer landing in Toronto. As word spread that Turkoglu had agreed with the Blazers after meeting with coach Nate McMillan in Orlando on Wednesday night and touring the Blazers' facilities on Thursday, the Raptors were pursuing three separate avenues that would have precluded making an offer for Turkoglu. They were engaged in talks with Cleveland about a sign-and-trade for guard Anthony Parker, and were making progress on re-signing two of their other free agents -- Shawn Marion and Carlos Delfino. A person familiar with all three negotiations said Delfino's deal was closer to completion due to ongoing debate in the Toronto front office about Marion's value.

The person involved in Turkoglu's negotiations with Portland used the word "reneged" in describing the nature of the impasse. Babby, who earlier in the evening had cautioned that there was "nothing yet" in terms of finalized details of a contract, did not return phone messages or emails after the talks broke down.

UPDATE: The details of how Turkoglu would wind up with the Raptors were sketchy. But given the fact that Toronto had already engaged in discussions about re-signing Marion and Delfino -- with varying degrees of progress -- left open the possibility of a more complicated sign-and-trade avenue. That would entail multiple parties signing on, including the Magic, who have quietly stayed in the background of Turkoglu's quest for a new home after acquiring Vince Carter from the Nets last week to protect themselves against losing him. Such a scenario could drag on for days because of the moving parts involved, and the person familiar with Turkoglu's decision to spurn the Blazers for the Raptors did not know the details of how it would be worked out. The simplest option on the table was for Toronto to renounce the rights to Marion, Delfino, and Parker and use the $9-$10 million in cap space for Turkoglu.

UPDATE: It is believed that Turkoglu's preference for Toronto was not the only factor. Another person familair with the situation said Turkoglu wasn't the right fit for the Blazers and that the two sides had "different priorities." As always, money played a role, according to another source. By renouncing Marion, Delfino, and Parker, the Raptors could exceed Portland's offer by about $800,000 annually. It wasn't clear Friday night whether Portland drove a harder bargain after seeing Toronto's options dwindle; whether Colangelo swooped in with an 11th-hour bid; or whether Turkoglu's camp simply had second thoughts or believed it could get a better deal from the Raptors.

If anything was clear in this bizarre negotiation, it was that Turkoglu's discussions with the Blazers were irreparably broken.

"It's called an agreement in principle," one source said in describing the agreement between Turkoglu and the Blazers, without elaborating. It is believed that the last player to reneg on such an agreement was Carlos Boozer with Cleveland in 2004.

No agreement between teams and players during the weeklong free-agent negotiating period is binding until deals can be signed on July 8, after the NBA and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.


Since: Jan 2, 2008
Posted on: July 4, 2009 1:02 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

....and yet you decided to post as well....with one of the longest entries yet....and you have been thinking about it for two

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:40 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

"What a waste of about 200 posts determing the effect this deal..."
THIS is, far and away, the #1 fan quote of 2009.

Hands down.

Dude, I have been laughing for two hours every time I think about it.  "What a waste of posts...??!!"


Not a waste of airplane tickets for team executives and players, not a waste of limo rides back and forth from hotel to stadium to offices, not a waste of hundreds of team assistants running ragged, not a waste of cooks and waitstaff feeding these clowns while they argue over tens of millions of dollars on the table....




I'm crying!!!

Since: Jan 2, 2008
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:36 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Hey johndbest I hate to break this to you but Turkoglu is hardly a fresh up and coming player. He is 30 years old and has been in the league 9 years.

Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:31 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Couldn't agree more with you finsrule777!  Brian Colangelo has done an admirable job being the general manager of this franchise.  In my opinion, Turkoglu was the best available free agent this offseason.  For the first time since Vince Carter was here, the Raptors have a player who can take the ball in the final possessions of games and take a buzzer beater if need-be.  This is arguably an EXTREMELY talented roster at this point.  We all saw how effective Jose Calderon is when he is 100% healthy (last 14 games or so of the season), Bargnani's coming out season indicates that he is still getting better, DeRozen is a dark horse player where the sky is the limit, then of coarse CB who in a contract year will be have his fire burning to have the best year of his career.  Gotta love this free-agent acquisition! Laughing

Since: Nov 28, 2008
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:29 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

I know it was GREG ODEN of OSU not LAMAR ODOM of R.I. ok know that; I misspelled his name sorry!! So many years later history repeat ODEN over DURANT (2007) & BOWIE over JORDAN (1984)! Good GM then good GM now.

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:18 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Young money:You are very ignorant. Toronto is more American than Canada. Every thing in Toronto is a replica of any big american city. Ibeen to Toronto and is not much better than any big American City. I know all about North York, a neighborhood in Toronto, I know about it crimes. I know Jane and Falstaff (prerrt bad) . The Whole Jane St is pretty bad, so dont get smart .

Since: Nov 6, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 11:55 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

He picked Toronto over portland because his wife and him don't want to live in a country where the socialist Obama is president. They both said it. I don't blame them one bit with the way obama is running this country into the ground. Be happy Turk!

Since: Oct 19, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 11:42 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

ODEN..GREG ODEN WAS TAKEN OVER DURANT NOT ODOM, ODOM IS THE LAKER PLAYER.  get your facts straight before you try to rip someone else...

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 11:27 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Do you think Turk will be a Hall of Famer even with a Ring. Not everyone with a ring gets into the Hall of fame.You should take a trip to the BBALL Hall of Fame to see who are in the shrine. Turk made a business and personal decision. For most part a business decision. A guy like him is not thinking about hall of fame, the guy has jumped from team to team, orlando is where he finally shine, and hes capitalizing on that, and choosing the money. Come on mann, fans wants championship but average players who will never get into the hall of fame are playing for the money. As Raef Lafrentz, Mark Blout, Ricky Davis.

Since: May 23, 2007
Posted on: July 4, 2009 11:26 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Please move, Portland doesn't want you.  And please, do not follow the Blazers...  Looks like the wheels have fallen off of your wagon.

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