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Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 3, 2009 10:54 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2009 12:37 am
Hedo, we have a problem.

Hours after agreeing in principle to a five-year contract with the Trail Blazers, free agent Hedo Turkoglu abruptly ceased negotiations and appears headed to the Toronto Raptors, a person directly involved in the negotiations told

"Hedo is headed to Toronto," said the person, who requested anonymity due to the sensitivity of the talks. "To sign."

But after a whirlwind day in which Turkoglu and his representative, Lon Babby, gave a verbal commitment to sign with the Blazers -- or were done in by what one rival executive termed "too many leaks and not enough info" -- determining Turkoglu's final landing spot is best left to those getting the signatures.

The situation was rapidly unfolding, and it was unclear Friday night whether Turkoglu had second thoughts or Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo swooped in and played his trump card -- the fact that Turkoglu and his wife were said to prefer landing in Toronto. As word spread that Turkoglu had agreed with the Blazers after meeting with coach Nate McMillan in Orlando on Wednesday night and touring the Blazers' facilities on Thursday, the Raptors were pursuing three separate avenues that would have precluded making an offer for Turkoglu. They were engaged in talks with Cleveland about a sign-and-trade for guard Anthony Parker, and were making progress on re-signing two of their other free agents -- Shawn Marion and Carlos Delfino. A person familiar with all three negotiations said Delfino's deal was closer to completion due to ongoing debate in the Toronto front office about Marion's value.

The person involved in Turkoglu's negotiations with Portland used the word "reneged" in describing the nature of the impasse. Babby, who earlier in the evening had cautioned that there was "nothing yet" in terms of finalized details of a contract, did not return phone messages or emails after the talks broke down.

UPDATE: The details of how Turkoglu would wind up with the Raptors were sketchy. But given the fact that Toronto had already engaged in discussions about re-signing Marion and Delfino -- with varying degrees of progress -- left open the possibility of a more complicated sign-and-trade avenue. That would entail multiple parties signing on, including the Magic, who have quietly stayed in the background of Turkoglu's quest for a new home after acquiring Vince Carter from the Nets last week to protect themselves against losing him. Such a scenario could drag on for days because of the moving parts involved, and the person familiar with Turkoglu's decision to spurn the Blazers for the Raptors did not know the details of how it would be worked out. The simplest option on the table was for Toronto to renounce the rights to Marion, Delfino, and Parker and use the $9-$10 million in cap space for Turkoglu.

UPDATE: It is believed that Turkoglu's preference for Toronto was not the only factor. Another person familair with the situation said Turkoglu wasn't the right fit for the Blazers and that the two sides had "different priorities." As always, money played a role, according to another source. By renouncing Marion, Delfino, and Parker, the Raptors could exceed Portland's offer by about $800,000 annually. It wasn't clear Friday night whether Portland drove a harder bargain after seeing Toronto's options dwindle; whether Colangelo swooped in with an 11th-hour bid; or whether Turkoglu's camp simply had second thoughts or believed it could get a better deal from the Raptors.

If anything was clear in this bizarre negotiation, it was that Turkoglu's discussions with the Blazers were irreparably broken.

"It's called an agreement in principle," one source said in describing the agreement between Turkoglu and the Blazers, without elaborating. It is believed that the last player to reneg on such an agreement was Carlos Boozer with Cleveland in 2004.

No agreement between teams and players during the weeklong free-agent negotiating period is binding until deals can be signed on July 8, after the NBA and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.


Since: Jul 4, 2009
Posted on: July 4, 2009 2:17 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Hahahahahahaaha.  Fourth of July and all you Americans seem bitter that Turk chose a much better place to live.  Aka Canada.  At least he doesn't have to worry about getting shot here in Toronto.  Suck it up you whiney American losers

Since: Jul 3, 2009
Posted on: July 4, 2009 2:13 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

No but Canada, and specifically Toronto, is just that good.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 2:10 am

This kind of thing would only happen to Portland

Portland is the worst sports city in the country. We are a major market and still only have 1 major sports team. The Blazers have been so close to prior championships but something always goes wrong. We would have won in '78 & '79 if Bill Walton hadn't of got injured. We would have won a few in the early 90's if Sabonis had come straight to Portland instead of dissing us for Europe. And we would have won in '02 if not for a horrible 4th quarter collapse.

The Blazers have NEVER been able to sign a top free agent so why am I even surprised that he backed out of the signing. Nothing good could ever happen to this franchise. Oden is a complete bust. We don't have a PG. We don't have a #3 scorer to take pressure off Roy & Aldridge. We will never be as good as the Lakers, Magic or Calvs without addressing these problems. There is nothing we can do about Oden, but Hedo would have helped immensely in all of our other areas of need. He's a point forward that is a mismatch nightmare and is extremely clutch. The combination of him and Roy down the stretch in games would have been amazing!!!

But it's all a pipe dream now. Nothing that good will ever happen to this team. Portland is a national joke of a city. The Blazers are a joke of a franchise.

I wish I hated sports because it brings me nothing but pain in life.

Nothing but pain......    :(

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 2:03 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Congrats. I'm happy for you. As a lifelong Portlander and Blazer fan I'm not surprised. Portland has never been able to attract good free agents. I wish I lived in a place like Toronto where star athletes actually want to go. Enjoy Turk. He's a great player. The Blazers would have been an instant contender. But I'm used to disappointment.

Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: July 4, 2009 2:03 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Hedo would have been a good addition to the Blazers, but IMO they need a PG and a backup PF. Hopefully the Blazers have a plan B, which I'm sure they do. Paul Millsap or David Lee would be nice coming off the bench. They need to get some speed and defense at PG, and bring Blake off the bench. The Blazers will be solid again next year without Hedo. I don't think he was going to make the difference getting them to the title.

Since: Nov 1, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 1:58 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

I live in Portland and am a Blazer fan. Portland is a Great place to live, people are always moving here. Maybe not a fit for Turk. I think Turk is a good player. He would have been a nice addition. But quite frankly, SF really isnt the position I feel we should have been targeting in the first place. Everyone has forgoten how M. Webster was coming into his own the season before last. I hope he is healthy this year because if he is, he is going to blow up. You can quote me on that. Not to mention we have Batum, and Rudy can play the 3 as well ( truly more of a 2 though). It seems as if Outlaw is out the door but he is on the Roster for now. It seems it would be in our best interest to get a good back up PF for LA. Also, I love Blake, I really do, but it seems like a good defensive PG would be a good move. Maybe Hinrich for a sweet deal or go after A. Miller. It sounded like a good addition getting Turk, I bet M. Webster ends up being a better play then Turk.

Since: Feb 5, 2008
Posted on: July 4, 2009 1:53 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Portland rocks.

He and his wife are just stupid Euro trash.

Since: Dec 29, 2007
Posted on: July 4, 2009 1:27 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

LMAO @ all the bitter fans that responded by calling him a loser. He was the reason the Magic made it so far. He is a loser right? but he just carried his team to the Finals by getting past "The King". The guy is obviously good and if he wasn't good then you wouldn't be so upset over him choosing another team. Its kinda sad he chose to play in Canada over a US city. Is Portland really that bad???

Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 1:19 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Ugh, so what I'm reading from this is that the Raps gave up on signing Delfino and Marion in order to get Turkoglu? Is this a joke? Delfino and Marion would have been the only 2 decent players who could defend on the perimeter. Now instead they have 1 average to slightly above-average player who's being overpaid because of a decent playoff run. Perhaps I'll be proved wrong in the end, but I'm really starting to wonder what exactly Colagelo is trying to build here. Is he forgetting that if the Raps tank again this upcoming season then the franchise player is gonna be heading elsewhere?

Since: Jul 3, 2009
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:50 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

....Actually what it means is he scored the basket that won the game. 

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