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Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 3, 2009 10:54 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2009 12:37 am
Hedo, we have a problem.

Hours after agreeing in principle to a five-year contract with the Trail Blazers, free agent Hedo Turkoglu abruptly ceased negotiations and appears headed to the Toronto Raptors, a person directly involved in the negotiations told

"Hedo is headed to Toronto," said the person, who requested anonymity due to the sensitivity of the talks. "To sign."

But after a whirlwind day in which Turkoglu and his representative, Lon Babby, gave a verbal commitment to sign with the Blazers -- or were done in by what one rival executive termed "too many leaks and not enough info" -- determining Turkoglu's final landing spot is best left to those getting the signatures.

The situation was rapidly unfolding, and it was unclear Friday night whether Turkoglu had second thoughts or Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo swooped in and played his trump card -- the fact that Turkoglu and his wife were said to prefer landing in Toronto. As word spread that Turkoglu had agreed with the Blazers after meeting with coach Nate McMillan in Orlando on Wednesday night and touring the Blazers' facilities on Thursday, the Raptors were pursuing three separate avenues that would have precluded making an offer for Turkoglu. They were engaged in talks with Cleveland about a sign-and-trade for guard Anthony Parker, and were making progress on re-signing two of their other free agents -- Shawn Marion and Carlos Delfino. A person familiar with all three negotiations said Delfino's deal was closer to completion due to ongoing debate in the Toronto front office about Marion's value.

The person involved in Turkoglu's negotiations with Portland used the word "reneged" in describing the nature of the impasse. Babby, who earlier in the evening had cautioned that there was "nothing yet" in terms of finalized details of a contract, did not return phone messages or emails after the talks broke down.

UPDATE: The details of how Turkoglu would wind up with the Raptors were sketchy. But given the fact that Toronto had already engaged in discussions about re-signing Marion and Delfino -- with varying degrees of progress -- left open the possibility of a more complicated sign-and-trade avenue. That would entail multiple parties signing on, including the Magic, who have quietly stayed in the background of Turkoglu's quest for a new home after acquiring Vince Carter from the Nets last week to protect themselves against losing him. Such a scenario could drag on for days because of the moving parts involved, and the person familiar with Turkoglu's decision to spurn the Blazers for the Raptors did not know the details of how it would be worked out. The simplest option on the table was for Toronto to renounce the rights to Marion, Delfino, and Parker and use the $9-$10 million in cap space for Turkoglu.

UPDATE: It is believed that Turkoglu's preference for Toronto was not the only factor. Another person familair with the situation said Turkoglu wasn't the right fit for the Blazers and that the two sides had "different priorities." As always, money played a role, according to another source. By renouncing Marion, Delfino, and Parker, the Raptors could exceed Portland's offer by about $800,000 annually. It wasn't clear Friday night whether Portland drove a harder bargain after seeing Toronto's options dwindle; whether Colangelo swooped in with an 11th-hour bid; or whether Turkoglu's camp simply had second thoughts or believed it could get a better deal from the Raptors.

If anything was clear in this bizarre negotiation, it was that Turkoglu's discussions with the Blazers were irreparably broken.

"It's called an agreement in principle," one source said in describing the agreement between Turkoglu and the Blazers, without elaborating. It is believed that the last player to reneg on such an agreement was Carlos Boozer with Cleveland in 2004.

No agreement between teams and players during the weeklong free-agent negotiating period is binding until deals can be signed on July 8, after the NBA and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.


Since: Jul 3, 2009
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:48 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Well when Carter lets you down in the moments when you need him most you will be regretting letting go of Turks.  Carter has so much potential but a major flop when the glare of the spotlight flashes on him.  I love Howard and was rooting for Orlando, but now that Carter is their its pointless because he will let you down in the playoffs, that i can guarantee.

Since: Feb 5, 2008
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:47 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

you can go on youtube and watch him bank in a 3 pointer at the buzzer over Outlaw to beat the blazers. The fact that he "banked in" a 3 pointer means that he missed the shot badly and got lucky.

Since: Jun 4, 2008
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:30 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Dude, I'm a Magic fan that's more than happy we gotn VC to replace him. I was so sick of Turkoglu by the end of the year. The only shots he takes are contested ones

Since: Jul 3, 2009
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:25 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Well yeah when that shot propels your team to victory i would say thats clutch.  Dont be bitter because he chose Toronto, his credentials speak for themself.  Dont believe me, you can go on youtube and watch him bank in a 3 pointer at the buzzer over Outlaw to beat the blazers.

Since: May 3, 2007
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:20 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

What a loser is right. He will never get a whiff of the playoffs on Toronto, much less make it to the Finals. Hope he enjoys the cash, because he will never win a ring.

The Hall of Fame never asks who made the most $$. They ask who won the most championships.

You are correct. Hedo is a loser.

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:03 am


This is a perfect example of a player changing his mind.   Yet in the same sense, everyone should be advised that nothing is considered a 'done-deal' until both parties have signed on the dotted line.  Turkoglu never came on ESPN and stated he was going to Portland!  Ron Artest did state that he was coming to the Lakers during an interview on ESPN.  Now if Artest changes his mind prior to the 'official signing period', then that will considered a real stab in the back.  What Turkoglu did was simply change his mind... maybe a few extra bucks had something to do with it... but not necessarily.

Since: Jul 2, 2009
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:03 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

.....or Oden.......

Still think Portland needs a banger inside.  What is David Lee's status?  Paul Milsap? 

I know, not as flashy of a signing as Hedo, but a needed presence for the Blazers. 

Since: Mar 28, 2007
Posted on: July 4, 2009 12:02 am

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

 same one thet took Odom over Durant?
I think you are talking about Oden here?

Since: Jun 4, 2008
Posted on: July 3, 2009 11:58 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

if you think Turk is clutch, ur wrong. I guess missing wide open shots for 47 minutes then making one with 2 seconds left makes you clutch

Since: Jun 5, 2009
Posted on: July 3, 2009 11:52 pm


is why reporting these things causes journalists to lose credibility constantly.  Just 6 hours ago, I was reading how Hedo was going to be a Blazer.  Sign back on and see he's going to be a Toronto Raptor.  Until July 8th, when they can actually sign, all of these stories are nothing more than media fodder.

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