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Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 3, 2009 10:54 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2009 12:37 am
Hedo, we have a problem.

Hours after agreeing in principle to a five-year contract with the Trail Blazers, free agent Hedo Turkoglu abruptly ceased negotiations and appears headed to the Toronto Raptors, a person directly involved in the negotiations told

"Hedo is headed to Toronto," said the person, who requested anonymity due to the sensitivity of the talks. "To sign."

But after a whirlwind day in which Turkoglu and his representative, Lon Babby, gave a verbal commitment to sign with the Blazers -- or were done in by what one rival executive termed "too many leaks and not enough info" -- determining Turkoglu's final landing spot is best left to those getting the signatures.

The situation was rapidly unfolding, and it was unclear Friday night whether Turkoglu had second thoughts or Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo swooped in and played his trump card -- the fact that Turkoglu and his wife were said to prefer landing in Toronto. As word spread that Turkoglu had agreed with the Blazers after meeting with coach Nate McMillan in Orlando on Wednesday night and touring the Blazers' facilities on Thursday, the Raptors were pursuing three separate avenues that would have precluded making an offer for Turkoglu. They were engaged in talks with Cleveland about a sign-and-trade for guard Anthony Parker, and were making progress on re-signing two of their other free agents -- Shawn Marion and Carlos Delfino. A person familiar with all three negotiations said Delfino's deal was closer to completion due to ongoing debate in the Toronto front office about Marion's value.

The person involved in Turkoglu's negotiations with Portland used the word "reneged" in describing the nature of the impasse. Babby, who earlier in the evening had cautioned that there was "nothing yet" in terms of finalized details of a contract, did not return phone messages or emails after the talks broke down.

UPDATE: The details of how Turkoglu would wind up with the Raptors were sketchy. But given the fact that Toronto had already engaged in discussions about re-signing Marion and Delfino -- with varying degrees of progress -- left open the possibility of a more complicated sign-and-trade avenue. That would entail multiple parties signing on, including the Magic, who have quietly stayed in the background of Turkoglu's quest for a new home after acquiring Vince Carter from the Nets last week to protect themselves against losing him. Such a scenario could drag on for days because of the moving parts involved, and the person familiar with Turkoglu's decision to spurn the Blazers for the Raptors did not know the details of how it would be worked out. The simplest option on the table was for Toronto to renounce the rights to Marion, Delfino, and Parker and use the $9-$10 million in cap space for Turkoglu.

UPDATE: It is believed that Turkoglu's preference for Toronto was not the only factor. Another person familair with the situation said Turkoglu wasn't the right fit for the Blazers and that the two sides had "different priorities." As always, money played a role, according to another source. By renouncing Marion, Delfino, and Parker, the Raptors could exceed Portland's offer by about $800,000 annually. It wasn't clear Friday night whether Portland drove a harder bargain after seeing Toronto's options dwindle; whether Colangelo swooped in with an 11th-hour bid; or whether Turkoglu's camp simply had second thoughts or believed it could get a better deal from the Raptors.

If anything was clear in this bizarre negotiation, it was that Turkoglu's discussions with the Blazers were irreparably broken.

"It's called an agreement in principle," one source said in describing the agreement between Turkoglu and the Blazers, without elaborating. It is believed that the last player to reneg on such an agreement was Carlos Boozer with Cleveland in 2004.

No agreement between teams and players during the weeklong free-agent negotiating period is binding until deals can be signed on July 8, after the NBA and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.


Since: Jul 3, 2009
Posted on: July 3, 2009 11:48 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

YESSS.....what a signing, thank you Turkoglu and thank you Colangelo and most of all thank you to Turks wife.  This is huge news and should make the Raps a threat in the East with an emerging star in Bargnani, Bosh, Calderon, and clutch performer in Turkoglu.  Also if a ypung star emerges in DeRozan, the Raps will definitely rebound.

Since: Nov 28, 2008
Posted on: July 3, 2009 11:47 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Been hearing what a good GM Portland have for what looked like him signing Turk; is it the same one thet took Odom over Durant?
Great Lakers (Magic-Worthy-The sky hook man)
Great Celtics (Bird-McHale-The Cheif)
Portland (Aldridge-Roy-Odom Durant)
To stay on title he's-not.

Since: Jun 4, 2008
Posted on: July 3, 2009 11:27 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

well he has a wife and kid so maybe they want an area where they think it'd be better to raise a family. Maybe he sees the LEbron/Howard rivalry as winning the next few rings...after kobes gone. You cant just look at "if they want to win". Obviously, Turkoglu's priorities may lie else ware. Not to mention Chris Bosh is a good friend of Dwight Howard who was alsot a good friend of Turkoglu. Maybe Dwight put in a word. The PNPs that Bosh and Turk could run together would be pretty fun IMO

Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: July 3, 2009 11:21 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

What a loser. Can't wait for this guy to come to Portland. He is going to get trashed by the fans and the core Blazers. Who flies from Orlando all the way to Portland, spends two days here, just to say no to one of the league's most promising teams? If he thinks Toronto is actually better with a chance to win, Portland is probably better off. Maybe he has good basketball IQ, but sounds like his other IQ is in the basement.

Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: July 3, 2009 11:16 pm

Hedo or Hedon't? (UPDATE)

Well holy crap, did not see that coming,  What a waste of about 200 posts determing the effect this deal would have on the Blazers and their place out west.

Since: Jun 4, 2008
Posted on: July 3, 2009 11:06 pm

Hedo or Hedon't?

is a sign and trade where Marion goes to Orlando in the cards? B/C it's awfly frustrating knowing that there are only 8 guys on the whole roster.

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