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Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

Posted on: July 13, 2009 11:22 pm
Edited on: July 13, 2009 11:42 pm
LAS VEGAS -- Ricky Rubio's agent, Dan Fegan, met with Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor Monday to get acquainted and attempt to resolve the logjam that has the Spanish point guard almost certainly headed back to Spain for at least a year or two.

Nothing was decided at two separate meetings at the COX Pavilion during summer league play, and a resoolution is not imminent, according to a person familiar with the meetings. Minnesota thus far has resisted any overtures aimed at trading Rubio to a team that he'd be willing to join immediately.

Timberwolves GM David Kahn reiterated that he is prepared to be "extremely patient" with Rubio, "even if it means waiting a year or two." Rubio, 18, decided after Minnesota draft him that he preferred to return to his Spanish team rather than negotiate a buyout. All the Timberwolves can contribute to the buyout, according to the collective bargaining agreement, is $500,000. The buyout in his contract with DKV Joventut originally was for $6.6 million, but recent reports have placed it closer to the $4 million range.

The T-Wolves, who also drafted point guard Jonny Flynn, of course would retain Rubio's rights while he is playing overseas. He would be 20 years old and more experience when he eventually returned to the NBA.

Category: NBA

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2009 11:21 am

Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

As I understood, the Timberwolves have Ricky Rubio for three years. Is that starting now, or when he enters the NBA?

I am comfortable with him playing more in Europe, he needs to strengthen. I also think the wait will only help the Wolves in that Rubio (if he is as good as advertised) will desire better competition. I agree with other posters that holding the Rubio card is a good thing, given the lack of readiness for playoffs for the present and the inordinate amount of 1st round draft picks we now hold.

If Minnesota is not careful, they might win this fan back.

Since: May 4, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2009 11:09 am

Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

I think this topic is getting convoluted, because people seem to be forgetting a few major points.

1) On drafting Rubio- Isn't it a popular saying that you always draft the best player available?  Now I know that this doesn't always work (ie drafting a Center when you have Dwight Howard).  However, I don't think people realize that Kahn wasn't necessarily drafting Rubio to play on the Wolves.

2) On The Journalistic View- Drama sells.  These journalists seem to be blowing this story out of proportion and forgetting to tell the whole story.  The earlier poster that mentioned that some of the concerns about weather were not completely true was 100% correct.  I think we all want to hear about yet another bad move that the Wolves made and how they wasted a pick, but maybe it isn't as dramatic as that.  Kahn is probably exactly what Rubio needed....a patient GM who is fine waiting for Rubio to finish his contract with his current team but is also open to trades.  Can you imagine how much worse it would be for Rubio is was drafted by a GM that would consider anything else besides Rubio playing in 09'?

3) The Wolves Don't Need Immediate Impact- Yes they suck and if would be in the teams best interest to start winning soon, but lets be honest.  It is going to be several years before they are playoff bound.  It is not like people expected them to turn into a championship team with one draft.  (Even though they had 4 first round picks!)  It often takes several years for players to develop in the NBA, so what is the concern with not seeing an immediate impact from drafting Rubio.  If we don't see a benefit from him or from a trade next year, who cares.  The Wolves have time to wait. 

Since: Sep 30, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2009 11:09 am

Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

I'm not sure if anyone in Minny is looking for sympathy. We don't care if he waits two years to come over. We aren't ready to contend now anyway. With Rubio starting overseas, that means Flynn gets all the minutes here, so both get to speed up their developmental process. Also Rubio has more trade value than Flynn or Curry and was the best player available at five. Taking him was a no brainer. If they wanted a shooter then they should have selected Curry over Flynn. I know I can't speak for all Timberwolves nation, the few hundred of us that are still left, but I have no problem letting the Rubio situation play itself out. Even if that means its a year or two before we see him in the states. And even if that means we end up trading him to another team for a king's ransom. One final point, Rubio has no leverage. We hold his rights, even if he decides to wait until his 30s to come over (ala Arvydas Sabonis), and we drafted a point guard at number six and have no shot of contending for a title this year. If Rubio is trying to wait us out. He'll find we have nothing but time. 

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 14, 2009 10:43 am

Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

I don't think that dissing the Wolves for drafting Rubio at five makes sense. He was supposed to go as high as two or three, so taking him at five is a steal. Not to mention, the Wolves had no way of knowing Rubio would not want to play for them. Rubio didn't even know he didn't want to play for them at that point: in the interview he gave after they picked him he didn't even know where Minnesota was. Even if Rubio had decided he didn't want to play for the Wolves, the rookie should be playing for whatever NBA team drafts him. It's not up to Rubio who picks him or who he plays for, so the fact that he does not want to play for the Wolves should have no bearing on the quality of the Wolves' pick.

As far as Flynn goes, forget him. Might as well forget him now because in a few years only Syracuse fans will remember him. Lawson has more upside and will be the better player. He is probably better than Rubio at this point. So it may be more appropriate to say "It's hard to feel sorry for the T-Wolves when they drafted PGs with their first three picks and the third one was the best one."

Since: Jan 20, 2008
Posted on: July 14, 2009 10:38 am

Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

This is kinda a sad and stupid move by Rubio. If you enter the draft then play for the team that draft's you period...... This whole situtation is pretty much letting all the young kids out of highschool think they can play over sea's and when they enter the draft and get picked by a team like the Knicks they can then turn around and say well i think im gonna go oversea's and play some more. Even though the Wolves hold the rights to this kid you know that they dont want to deal with the problem for years to come. And i guess that any kid playing oversea's can pretty much pick the team they want to play for.Rubio needs to grow-up i know he is only 18-years old but what he is doing is very sad and very selfish.Maybe the NBA can figure out a rule that makes people play for any team that draft's them or they dont play at all.

Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: July 14, 2009 10:10 am

Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

you say they should have drafted jonny flynn but not the young not ready for nba point gaurd jonny flynn i'm confused

Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: July 14, 2009 9:56 am

Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

Well thats what they get...there are plenty of american college players who are equally if not ten times better...not that I have a problem with foreign players....its just that the NBA is tryin to send a message to a certain group...he cant even shoot the damn ball...why as a owner would I want that...cant win a championship if your point guard cant shoot...

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2009 9:52 am

Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

Stephon Curry IS a very young, not ready for the NBA point guard

Since: Oct 4, 2008
Posted on: July 14, 2009 9:50 am

Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

Nonsense.  One of the pitfalls of the NBA is the salary cap - if the T-wolves had drafted and signed four players in the first round this year, they would have surely lost one, and probably two, after only three years.  And the first three years of any player's career are seldom their most productive.  By draftng Lawsona nd trading him for a future #1, they cleared one hurdle.  Having Rubio developing in Europe at no cost to the T'wolves solves another.

By drafting Rubio and playing hardball with him, they are delaying his free agent year.  In fact, Rubio's camp has it backwards - they should sign as soon as possible, so his options will be wide open in three years.  Every year they delay means one more year until he can choose where he plays.

Suppose Flynn develops into a good player.  As soon as the T'wolves sign him to an extension, they have the rights to a cheap NBA-ready point guard in Rubio, and can trade him and a bad contract for a good, high-salaried player easily.

Alternatively, suppose Flynn shows he is overmatched.  Now they let Flynn go, have money available to sign Ellington, or a free agent, and then bring Rubio over to run a much better team, which will be a far more attractive situation.

In either case, it is to the T'wolves' advantage to have Rubio in Europe.  Look at it this way, they have two young PG's both getting quality minutes in very good leagues this season, and probably next.  They couldn't possibly arrange that if Rubio signs.

As to drafting Curry, they got Ellington later in the draft, and he's not exactly chopped liver as either a player or a prospect.  He's an excellent shooter and played in a first-rate league for one of the two or three best programs in college hoops.  He's also a little bigger and a lot stronger than Curry, which means he is better equipped to play defense in the league.

Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: July 14, 2009 9:44 am

Rubio camp meets with T-Wolves owner

dumb post.  Hell of a lot more?  You have no idea what you're talknig about.

Minneapolis is NOT a small market, just not the biggest, they are the 12th largest.  

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