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Wyc: Celts 'hands down' favorites in East

Posted on: August 4, 2009 10:17 pm
NEW YORK -- Celtics managing partner Wyc Grousbeck didn't want to talk about the collecting bargaining negotiations he participated in Tuesday. But he had no problem anointing the Celtics as the "hands down" favorites in the Eastern Conference next season.

"I think we should be the favorites in the conference, hands down," Grousbeck said after emerging from a 3 1-2 hour bargaining session between the NBA owners and the players' union. "And we’re going to start proving that Oct. 27."

That's when the Celtics open the 2009-10 season against LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. But it'll be a very different Celtics team than the one that couldn't get past Orlando in the conference semifinals. For one, Kevin Garnett will be recovered from the knee injury that caused him to miss the entire playoffs. "Just fine," Grousbeck said, when asked how KG's recovery was going.

Also, Grousbeck raved about the Celtics' big offseason acquisition -- the talented, enigmatic, and combustible Rasheed Wallace.

"I personally recruited him with five others guys," Grousbeck said. "My guys lobbied us for the signing because the players who’ve played the game for 10 years at a high level, they know who can help them and what they can do. They know the score. Rasheed was everybody’s first choice: ownership, general manager, and players. We all wanted to have him as a first choice, and we got him."

Grousbeck said he questioned Wallace about his status as the NBA's undisputed king of technical fouls and menace to officials during his 14-year career and was satisfied with 'Sheed's answers. 

"He’s a feisty competitor, obviously," Grousbeck said. "We talked about that in the interview and the recruiting session. He said he means it always to try to help the team. He and his former teammates and coaches that you talk to when you do research on him, they love him as a player. Coaches love him, players love to play with him. The refs have mixed feelings, but that’s what refs are for."

Asked if he was prepared for all things Rasheed, Grousbeck said, "I actually told David (Stern) that I was going to modify my baseline ref assistance program a little bit to make up for the fact that we’ve got Rasheed. So I’m going to be doing a little less helping of the refs from the baseline. Just trying to even things out."

As for restricted free agent Glen "Big Baby" Davis, Grousbeck said the Celtics have had "a lot of conversations with him" and added, "We expect to see him in green. But things play out and you never know."

Since: May 8, 2008
Posted on: August 5, 2009 5:26 pm

Wyc: Celts 'hands down' favorites in East

Are we 4getting my surprise sleeper pick of the year... The raptors!

Toronto plays a euro style game with 2 3point shooting bigs, plus rasho nesterovic is back of the bench! They just added jarett jack who can play & us one of a healthy Chris bosh's favorite teamates of all time!

They had a solid draft & already have a decent core in place around Bosh letting them compete giving him a chance 2 compete @ a title!

Detroit is a year away from getting there name in a race as is Atlanta... D wade could turn into the next kobe... No help dropping a million points a game with a young cast nxt year too... The nets are set 4 the future & the Celtics have some young guys in the system but the vets are getting old...

This year its a 4way race not a 3 way race 4 the top @ the East as well as finals, where the lakers are better but over rated as favorites to win it all so if the East once again best each other to no resolve look for LA, Dallas, or Denver to have say so as well.

Nxt year it'll be a tough one in which the Celtic have there chance but really its the young stars and the new offensive version of the old defensive team playing pistons... Atl!

Since: Oct 13, 2007
Posted on: August 5, 2009 5:14 pm

Wyc: Celts 'hands down' favorites in East

Wallace will probably be coming off the bench because Perkins is such a solid defender.

Since: Mar 21, 2007
Posted on: August 5, 2009 5:14 pm

Wyc: Celts 'hands down' favorites in East

Dang, you know our Detroit team pretty well.  Idk what people are talking about Detroit having no bench, especially when they're going to have Gordon, Maxiell, Wilcox, and Will Bynum coming off the bench, and it's probable that either Austin Daye or DaJuan Summers is going to step up and have a solid rookie that's one quality backup at each of the five positions.  I don't think our bench is to question; it's more about if we can survive with four good starters and Kwame as the center and if Hamilton and Gordon can co-exist.

Since: Jan 4, 2009
Posted on: August 5, 2009 4:47 pm

Wyc: Celts 'hands down' favorites in East

The Pistons, are you serious?

Do you even watch basketball?  Starting Boozer at the Five?  He is listed at 6'9 and that is being veeerrrryyy generous. 

But we will look at this from a realistic point of view for a second, just to help you understand.  with the team that you have now.  you would have a starting line-up of likely Stuckey( very questionable at point guard), Hamilton (great at hitting the open shot, but not really an all-star anymore), Tayshaun(long and a great defender), Charlie(Good defender, not much there offensively yet), and lastly at Center it is a toss-up between Oberto and Wilcox and Kwame(either way not looking good there). 

Next we move on to the bench, or lack thereof, Ben Gordon can put up a ton of points in a hurry, and Jason Maxiell brings energy, defense and rebounding, but after that it is pretty slim pickings.  there is Will Bynum but he wont get much playing time behind your three headed monster.  And other than that you have two rookie forwards, Austin Daye, who i think will be a good player in the league eventually but for now is too thin and lacks the defense needed to keep up with any of the legitimate forward in the NBA.  and Dejuan Summers who will see limited minutes playing behind Tayshaun. 

So all in all, you are looking like an lower seeded playoff team, maybe 6 or 7 and will knocked off in the first round by one of the Big Three in the East.  But i wish you good luck this year, because your Pistons will need a whole lot of it this year.


Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: August 5, 2009 4:41 pm

Wyc: Celts 'hands down' favorites in East


Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: August 5, 2009 4:34 pm

Wyc: Celts 'hands down' favorites in East



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: August 5, 2009 2:08 pm

Wyc: Celts 'hands down' favorites in East

, why did u fall prey to Stevegarveymoron?  Blueblood states:

"Still, I would pick them over the Magic, Cavs, and Pistons. But, any significant injury to KG, Pierce, or Allen, and this team can pack it in."

Don't lump the borderline playoff team in Detroit with the three great teams of the East.  That is insane.  Pistons have no business being associated with the other three teams.  They have no bench and no all-stars.  They should be a winning team, but just barely.  The Pistons would more fairly be lumped with Hawks, Bulls, 76ers and maybe some lessers like the Knicks and Raptors.  That makes more sense low level playoff teams, borderline teams (which Detroit is) and probably not teams.

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: August 5, 2009 2:02 pm

Wyc: Celts 'hands down' favorites in East

 wrote "They got Charlie Villanueva, who is a HUGe upgrade over Rasheed and is younger and better defensively."

WOW, that had me laughing till I could barely breath.  What kool-aid are you drinking son?  Villanueva has not even sniffed becoming an all-star yet.  Right now he does not rate in the top 10 of the league at his position.  He is a solid player, but by no means all-around or great.  If he is your savior, you're screwed.  Also, Ben G couldn't defend my grandmother, so good luck with that one.

Detroit has no bench talent and an O.K. starting five.  If, IF, they gel and find solid chemisty, they will be a playoff team.  Hoping for any more than that will require some serious drugs, 60s style.  LSD anyone?

Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: August 5, 2009 1:43 pm

Wyc: Celts 'hands down' favorites in East

Come on, what should we expect the Celtics owner to say? I'm sure the Magic owner, Cavaliers owner, and Pistons owner would all say the same exact thing about their team. Nobody really cares what any owner thinks about his team's chances, except of course the CBS bored writers.

But this is what I really like...

Rasheed was everybody’s first choiceI'm not buying this one. With a Lamar Odom out there, no way Rasheed Wallace is the #1 guy. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a fine addition. I'm just not buying that he was the first choice.

I think the celtics starting five with Garnett, Paul Pierce, Rasheed Wallace, Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo is the best starting five in the league
I don't know that I can argue with this much. But the NBA isn't all about the first five. Your bench better come through. It didn't help the Cs a lot last year, and I don't see much improvement, if any, this year. Plus, as you mentioned... All those over 30 guys with significant wear and tear... I'd bet injuries will be a huge issue for the Celtics at some point this season.

Still, I would pick them over the Magic, Cavs, and Pistons. But, any significant injury to KG, Pierce, or Allen, and this team can pack it in.

Sweet 16 in 2010.


Since: Feb 19, 2008
Posted on: August 5, 2009 12:18 pm

Celts need energy guys off the bench as well

I think the celtics starting five with Garnett, Paul Pierce, Rasheed Wallace, Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo is the best starting five in the league - with their ability to score and defend.  However, as stated before, they are older and need rests and have a higher probability of injuries.  I think it is key they get back those guys - Leon Powe and Glenn Davis - for them to have a chance  GO CELTICS

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