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Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

Posted on: September 4, 2009 4:39 pm
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Knicks president Donnie Walsh and the agent for restricted free agent David Lee plan to speak after Labor Day, and both sides are hopeful they can resolve the power forward's contract stalemate before the team reports to training camp at the end of the month.

Don't read too much into reports elsewhere that Walsh and agent Mark Bartelstein are on the verge of agreeing on a one-year deal that would make Lee an unrestricted free agent next summer. That's clearly where this is going, but nothing has changed on the Lee front for at least a month, Bartelstein said Friday. As we've reported here previously, Walsh and Bartelstein both recognize that a one-year deal is the only possible outcome here if a sign-and-trade or long-term deal can't be consummated. (Well, Lee sitting out the entire season is another possible outcome, but let's not be ignorant.) Anyway, Bartelstein said Friday that he and Walsh haven't even exchanged contract figures on a one-year deal yet. And based on Bartelstein's comments, that aspect of the negotiation could be somewhat time-consuming.

"If we can't do a sign-and-trade, we'll come up with a deal that pays David for one year based upon who he is as a player and based on comparables and playing for the minimum for four years and being their best player," Bartelstein said. "(Walsh) wants to do the right thing for someone who clearly deserves a long-term deal, but the organization has clearly decided not to do a long-term deal."

In short, don't waste any of your Labor Day weekend contemplating the significance of Lee being a Knick next season. For a restricted free agent faced with a marketplace featuring only three teams with significant cap space -- and with his own team hoarding cap space for next summer -- that has, for weeks, been the only way this was going to end.

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Since: Apr 27, 2009
Posted on: September 10, 2009 3:56 pm
 

Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

I guess all fans tend to overvalue their own players in general, due to home town affections and familiarity.  David Lee is a decent player with some strengths, but not the juggernaut that many Knicks fans seem to think.  That is apparent from the fact that no team is beating down the door to give him the 8-digit salary he wants.



Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: September 9, 2009 7:29 pm
 

Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

Great analysis NYK. I agree fully with everything you say. And no I am not referring to Nate.

Varejo contract is a huge joke. The 4 spot is the Cavs weakness. they can win it all if they had land plotted to land a Bosh or Amare at that position.

Lee is asking for too much money- agreed. And for sure he is around mid level or a bit higher.

By poor treatment I am more projecting the impact of disrespecting players generally rather than referring to this situation. I just think it is important for NY to treat Lee well through this process because Lee is a quality guy athough certainly not a superstar. I agree fully- sign him to a one year deal, explain to him that they hope to keep him next year if the situation works out (no guarantees of course) and move on. It seems cheap for the Knicks to not give a deal to this hard working asset to their team who is seeing them through tough times.



Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: September 8, 2009 12:54 am
 

Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

JimF, I agree with you.  We need to be able to land someone next season or the whole ordeal with Lee can bite us.  But by poor treatment of players, I hope you don't mean Nate.  I personally grew sick of his antics at times that hurt us in big games when he would not pass the ball and try to make highlight reels of himself instead.  He is not a starter, but a spark plug off the bench, who needs to be much less selfish.  He is not worth what he wants.  But Lee does work hard, but is not worth the money he has asked for.  A hustle guy like Lee does not deserve to be paid more than the mid-level exception.  And seeing that flopper in Varejao get the fat contract he earned and not even put up half as decent an effort and stats as Lee should not get him to expect as much, if not more than him because he is not worth Varejao money.  And because he is asking for such a large amount of money, no teams have offered the Knicks a sign-and-trade deal and have backed off interest in him.  As much as I like Lee and his passion and style of play, he is not the difference between playoffs and no playoffs.  He could be a valuable piece on a winning team in a role like he has on the Knicks, but off the bench.  However, the Knicks should just sign him to a one-year deal already.  No team can offer him more than NY because he is a restricted FA and we can match any offer sheet and no other team at this point is going to claim him.



Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2009 8:10 pm
 

Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

Knicks are making moves for next year. They may be sadly dissappointed if and when Lebron re-signs, D Wade moves somewhere other than NY.. and if the Knicks can't land Wade or Lebron, other stars like Bosh/ Amare will likely pass on NYC. If this happens, the poor treatment of players that have played well and worked hard like Lee, may come back to bite them.

When you refuse to make a serious offer to a guy like Lee, the whole league watches and other individual players will make their own decision as to where they can go and be sure they will get a fair shake.

The Knicks should have worked something out with Lee a long time ago whether it be a sign and trade, a one year contract- whatever. Lee is an upgrade from many of the players who have recently worn a Knick's jersey. Be careful what message you send to hard working blue collar types while holding out for "bigger and better" that may never arrive.



Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2009 6:11 pm
 

Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

We cannot bring in Stephen Jackson.  He is nothing but trouble.  He can score and thats about it.  He has a bad contract; it runs until 2013, he plays no defense, and once he has one little problem, he will demand a trade.  Like I have said for months, I really want Lee to stay, but only at the right price.  No one is willing to give him the money he is asking for because he is not worth it.   He rebounds, hustles, and gets points on the glass, but he is not the difference between making the Knicks a winning team or a losing team.  He would make a great 6th man on a winning team (he is not a starter), but is not worth what he is asking.  Lee should just take the one year deal the Knicks are offering him since no one is going to offer him a contract or make a sign and trade with the Knicks at this point and he would be unrestricted next summer.  And why trade Harrington or Hughes?  They will both be off the books after the season, which will clear up even more money.  Bringing in Jackson and his hefty contract will only add to our salary cap.  We want to be able to afford free agents next season instead of bringing in a championship fantasy roster like Isiah did with all his moves.  That was a disaster and it was a miracle we got rid of some his contracts over the last year.  Now that we can finally see an end in sight to all his bad moves, let the contracts expire and bring in players with winning attitudes.



Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2009 1:53 pm
 

Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

So I heard this was going to happen to Nate Robinson as well? A one-year-deal with the option for a sign-and-trade?



Since: Jun 1, 2009
Posted on: September 6, 2009 2:41 pm
 

Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

larry hughes



Since: Dec 15, 2007
Posted on: September 5, 2009 7:23 pm
 

Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

I would like to see them do a sign and trade for Steven Jackson it makes alot of since and despite the fact that Harrington doesnt bring to the table what Lee does he is a more solid player if given the right opertunity he can be more effective than last season. plus take into account that most of the players on the roster werent here at the start of the season. Stephen Jackson, and Rony Turiaf for Lee and their sg he slips my mind but he's been with Washington, G.S, Phi, and the Bulls.



Since: Mar 10, 2009
Posted on: September 5, 2009 8:59 am
 

Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

I'm just wondering how this whole thing is going to play out ? I knew he wasn't going to be back with the Knicks because the Knicks are trying to attain as much space under their cap as possible for next year. Lee should hit a team because he's in my op1n1on, a pretty valuable player to have on a roster. It's going to be interesting to see how Walsh handles this.



Since: Dec 22, 2008
Posted on: September 5, 2009 1:12 am
 

Knicks, Lee to huddle next week

wow this cant be happening 


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