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Are the Celtics getting old before our eyes?

Posted on: December 23, 2009 4:57 pm
 
Kevin Garnett missed Tuesday night's game against Indiana with a thigh bruise. Pretty innocuous stuff. But on Wednesday came news that Paul Pierce underwent an arthroscopic irrigation on his right knee to clean an infection.

That doesn't sound good at all.

Pierce will miss the Celtics' four-game road trip, which begins with Friday's nationally televised Christmas Day game against Orlando. Though no structural damage was found in Pierce's knee, the Celtics say he could be sidelined up to two weeks.

The Celtics (22-5) have the best record in the East and second-best in the league after the Lakers (23-4). Friday's game could've been a chance to avenge a home loss to the Magic back in November. Instead, they find themselves limping toward 2010 with their fingers crossed.

Both KG and Pierce presumably will be fine. But it's worth remembering at this point that age and brittle bones are not the Celtics' friends. Among the elite teams, nobody relies more on aging veterans than the Celtics.

Pierce is 32 and has logged more than 31,000 minutes in the NBA. Garnett will turn 34 during the playoffs, and his odometer reads 40,000 and counting. Ray Allen is 34 and has launched more than 15,000 shots -- and that's not counting the tens of thousands in practice. Rasheed Wallace is 35 and has more than 1,000 NBA games in his rear-view mirror. And let's face it, Sheed isn't going to be signed as a pitchman for a longevity clinic any time soon.

I'm not suggesting that KG's bruise and Pierce's infected knee are cause for grave concern. I'm just noting that, you know, these guys are old.



Comments

Since: Jan 15, 2008
Posted on: December 31, 2009 2:32 pm
 

Are the Celtics getting old before our eyes?

I said their old age would mess them up the year they got Ray Allen & KG.  I said they'd win it in 2008 & they're age would mess them up & send them back to the cellar in 2-3 years.  & what's really gonna mess them up is that this off-season they'll stick with re-signing their old free agents like Paul Pierce & Allen



Since: Jan 31, 2007
Posted on: December 25, 2009 9:33 pm
 

Are the Celtics getting old before our eyes?

Blueblood,

Age is important but minutes in the NBA are also important. Think NFL running back.  yes there is a difference between 30 and 35 but we aren't talking 5 years diffences in age, more like 1 or 2 years (and I remember competing on the hardwood at 30, 35, 40 and 45). And no, I don't think you can make up for minutes played. Kobes NBA age has more to do with his minute on court than his chronological age (see KG, though not quite the load Kobe has carried).  Not enough to make up for the minuets played.  Glen Davis'es injury was a thumb not a knee.  As for whether he is good or not, he did average 16 pts and 8 rebounds in the playoffs. Davis has missed 8 weeks, not exactly half of the season - he did play today. and this is still December.



Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: December 25, 2009 4:13 am
 

Are the Celtics getting old before our eyes?

So, how old is Kobi?
Kobe's age has already been noted much earlier in this thread... Read.

Peace



Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: December 25, 2009 4:07 am
 

Are the Celtics getting old before our eyes?

Between the teams in the nba, i believe the celtics are not that old of a team. I'm not saying this because i like the celtics, im saying this because when you compare them with other teams they ar probably good. Comparing to the lakers they mostly just use Kobe if they are losing or want to get ahead by more points. The celtics actually work the ball in transition and are an unselfish team. They can also shoot the three ball very well.What?

Are you kidding me?

Kobe Bryant is only utilized when they are losing? Or when they want to increase their lead? What kind of logic is that?

I wish you were right though. If Phil only used KB when they were losing, he'd be playing about 10 minutes a game... Maybe!!

Geez.

Peace



Since: Dec 24, 2009
Posted on: December 24, 2009 10:08 pm
 

Are the Celtics getting old before our eyes?

Between the teams in the nba, i believe the celtics are not that old of a team. I'm not saying this because i like the celtics, im saying this because when you compare them with other teams they ar probably good. Comparing to the lakers they mostly just use Kobe if they are losing or want to get ahead by more points. The celtics actually work the ball in transition and are an unselfish team. They can also shoot the three ball very well.



Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: December 24, 2009 1:31 pm
 

Are the Celtics getting old before our eyes?

So, how old is Kobi?



Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: December 24, 2009 12:51 pm
 

Are the Celtics getting old before our eyes?

So chronological age is more important than wear and tear?  Yes the Lakers are younger but in terms of minutes in the NBA the differences aren't that great.  Tough to call one old without implying the other is as well.
Yes swampthing, chronological age is more important, although obviously both are factors.

Come on, you know this... Age clearly impacts injuries more than playing time.

While a player can condition for minutes played and to be played, Father Time will not allow a player to condition for age. Come on... You know this!!

I'm not sure how old you are, but I can remember 30, and I can also recall 35. There was a vast difference between the two physically. And I was well-conditioned.

You can't make up age, but you can make up for minutes played.

And based on the above (and the current state of injuries)... Most of the Celtics starters will require more time off than the Lakers starters. Will it have an impact? Who knows?

Yes the Celtics need another body, Gled Davis anybody?
I believe I said a "good body". Big Baby is a role player. Nothing less... Certainly nothing more. Add to that the fact that when he does return he will have missed about half the season. He won't need conditioning? Significant practice time? I think so. And I speak from first-hand knowledge, twice with Andrew Bynum. Lakers fans were hoping beyond hope that AB would return a semblance of his former self last season. It never happened, and he is a very diligent worker. And the Lakers suffered for the rest of the season and the playoffs because of it. So I guess what I'm saying is that while BB is a nice complementary, he's not the guy that will make a big difference in the Celtics situation. And my presumption, although I don't know this for a fact, based on Baby's svelte figure compared to Bynum's chiseled look, I'd say that Baby is not the same worker as AB. At least the fat content might bely this. 

What I do know... Last year there were many, many Spurs fans whooping it up about how ready the Spurs players would be come playoff time because of time taken off during the season. And they got smoked in the first round, with home-court advantage.

Now I'm not saying this year's Celtics are last year's Spurs. But I am saying that such a strategy can be a very precarious move.

Sweet 16 in 2010.

Peace 



Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: December 24, 2009 12:44 pm
 

Are the Celtics getting old before our eyes?

Hey berger are you a knick fan what a silly thoughtless story



Since: Apr 16, 2007
Posted on: December 24, 2009 12:42 pm
 

Maybe, but just be healthy for the playoffs..

when you meet the Lakers. We want both teams at 100% to set up the epic battle that, let's face it, everybody is waiting for.

There's some unfinished business from 2008 that Kobe and the Lakers need to take care of. :)



Since: Apr 27, 2008
Posted on: December 24, 2009 12:25 pm
 

Are the Celtics getting old before our eyes?

And now he's not only the oldest Celtics starter

Sorry, check that KG is their 2nd oldest starter.


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