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Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

Posted on: February 12, 2010 5:56 pm
Edited on: February 12, 2010 7:50 pm

DALLAS -- After weeks of discussions, taking the Wizards through various trade proposals that would put them on the path to rebuilding, Washington has revived a deal that would send Caron Butler to the Mavericks as part of a package that includes Josh Howard going to the Wizards, has learned.

The deal "looks like it will go through," according to a person with direct knowledge of the discussions. The Butler-for-Howard scenario was revived in the past 48 hours after Dallas owner Mark Cuban initially balked at the idea, the source said. The discussions, described as "lively and serious" by one person involved, expanded to include Brendan Haywood going to Dallas along with DeShawn Stevenson, with Drew Gooden heading to the Wizards, sources said.

The Wizards were deeply involved in discussions with Boston that would've sent Butler and Haywood to the Celtics for Ray Allen, but that deal apparently died for a combination of reasons. The Wizards were reluctant to include Antawn Jamison in the swap, and the Celtics were concerned about taking on large contracts as they try to position themselves to remain a threat down the stretch and also to improve in future seasons.

Barring a snag, Butler would add to the Mavs' offensive potency -- assuming he will return to his previous All-Star level with a change of scenery. But the deal also will add $14.8 million to the Mavs' 2010-11 payroll -- the price Cuban was willing to pay to make a championship run this season.

Howard was virtually a lock to be traded before the Feb. 18 deadline because he's unhappy with his role and has a team option for next season at $11.8 million. The deal has the potential to save the Wizards nearly $15 million in 2010-11 cap space if they decide not to pick up Howard's option.


Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: February 13, 2010 11:31 am

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

Howard is a good player.  Howard is also racist.  Howard is selfish  (birthday party into the wee hours before a playoff game versus NO, against Avery Johnsons directive)

Good play but his attitude is not what this country is built on *(unfortunately its what we are starting to become)

Since: Feb 1, 2007
Posted on: February 13, 2010 10:13 am

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

Well this is a another reason the NBA is in free fall mode with everyone except hardcore fans.  The salary cap has killed the ability for teams to climb out of a hole, created by one bad decision.  The Knicks and Marbury, Sixers and Brand and the list continues.  Lakers rec'd a gift from Memphis when they got Gasol.  That ridiculous trade seemed like a Fantasy sport trade where one guy just doesnt care anymore.  What it did was hand the Lakers a NBA championship.
Think about that; the Lakers won the NBA title because Memphis want to dump Gasol salary.  What a terribly sad time for the NBA;  I am not sure even Stern will save this league now.

Since: Jan 26, 2008
Posted on: February 13, 2010 9:51 am

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

"the Mavs get a quality center in the deal also"

You've obviously not watched a lot of Wizards games over the years.  Sorry,  Haywood may have decent numbers, but in reality is a liability in almost every possible way.

Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: February 13, 2010 8:35 am

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

Using the same NBA TRADE tool by ESPN, the Mavs could trade Dampier, Howard and Carroll to the Wizards, for Jamison, Haywood and Butler.

I like this swap even better!  The money works out, but the win/loss projection is negative for the Wizards.  But hey, they will expect to be in the NBA dungeon for a couple of years, so making this trade would be spectacular (for the Mavs, that is).  If the Mavs aren't able to reign in Jamison, I still like Butler and Haywood coming to the Mavs.  Instead of shipping Gooden out, PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE ... send DAMPIER instead!!!

Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: February 13, 2010 8:30 am

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

Both Kobe and Dirk were draft day trades set up by the franchises that they are currently with.  The other teams drafted them on their behalf.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: February 13, 2010 2:47 am

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

They are trying to dump sal, not add it. Odds are the deal will include cash to Wixards.
That is why we see teams trade a player and a pick for a much lesser player or a retired one (Van Horn).Money is the ONLY though. Winning is not an option.

Since: Nov 13, 2007
Posted on: February 13, 2010 12:41 am

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

Howard will never be healthy again his ankles have already had too many surgeries on them he will never be the JHO we saw a few years ago. On top of this he shoots way too many contasted mid range shots in an area where he is suspect in. This is a major upgrade even if the deal was Butler for Josh straight up but the Mavs get a quality center in the deal also

Since: Mar 5, 2008
Posted on: February 13, 2010 12:41 am

this deal stinks

this is another classic Cuban overreaction.  do we need to do something?  definitely.  is this the answer?  NO!

the centerpieces of this deal might as well be carbon copies of each other, except that one is off the books this summer (Howard, unless you exercise his team option) and the other (Butler) is not!  what the hell?! 

why is it every other NBA contender seems able to trade for pennies on the dollar (especially in this salary cap era where underachieving or stinky teams will give away salaried players for nothing) except Dallas????

the ONLY way this deal even remotely makes sense is if the Mavs have another deal ready to ship out Dumpier for a bag of Ramen noodles.  or equivalent value.  then i could justify the acquisitino and use of Clu Haywood.  but by giving up Gooden, i would say that isn't going to happen either since he was technically teh backup center.

absolutely atrocious.  we took on salary and got not one iota better. 


Since: Jan 25, 2008
Posted on: February 13, 2010 12:23 am

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

Josh Howard was an emerging star just a couple of years ago with one All-Star appearance already on his resume. The past two seasons he has been battling an assortment of wrist and ankle injuries which have clearly impacted his career. A healthy Howard would be an asset to every team in the NBA. He is just entering into his prime years and should be a very productive player for as long as he keeps away from injuries. The Butler for Howard trade appears equitable from my viewpoint. However, to criticize Josh as being "nothing" as a player is pure ignorance. Please, may only true fans of the sport reply to this thread...or any NBA thread for that matter.


Since: Sep 1, 2006
Posted on: February 13, 2010 12:13 am

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

Bulter is only guy who knows how to win a game in Wizards. If He gone .....this Wizards is done for the season.

So......If they have no hope for playoffs. This maybe not a bad way to go......

Forgot bout D-wade and Lebron... Do you believe one of them want to go to DC....?

Come on, They just want to give their best player and move forward to next season with more available caps.

Butler is great for Mavs and also C's whom wants to get away from Ray Allen (Ray plays worst so far in his career)

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