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Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

Posted on: February 12, 2010 5:56 pm
Edited on: February 12, 2010 7:50 pm

DALLAS -- After weeks of discussions, taking the Wizards through various trade proposals that would put them on the path to rebuilding, Washington has revived a deal that would send Caron Butler to the Mavericks as part of a package that includes Josh Howard going to the Wizards, has learned.

The deal "looks like it will go through," according to a person with direct knowledge of the discussions. The Butler-for-Howard scenario was revived in the past 48 hours after Dallas owner Mark Cuban initially balked at the idea, the source said. The discussions, described as "lively and serious" by one person involved, expanded to include Brendan Haywood going to Dallas along with DeShawn Stevenson, with Drew Gooden heading to the Wizards, sources said.

The Wizards were deeply involved in discussions with Boston that would've sent Butler and Haywood to the Celtics for Ray Allen, but that deal apparently died for a combination of reasons. The Wizards were reluctant to include Antawn Jamison in the swap, and the Celtics were concerned about taking on large contracts as they try to position themselves to remain a threat down the stretch and also to improve in future seasons.

Barring a snag, Butler would add to the Mavs' offensive potency -- assuming he will return to his previous All-Star level with a change of scenery. But the deal also will add $14.8 million to the Mavs' 2010-11 payroll -- the price Cuban was willing to pay to make a championship run this season.

Howard was virtually a lock to be traded before the Feb. 18 deadline because he's unhappy with his role and has a team option for next season at $11.8 million. The deal has the potential to save the Wizards nearly $15 million in 2010-11 cap space if they decide not to pick up Howard's option.


Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: February 12, 2010 11:01 pm

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

Butler would make a good addition to the Mavs. They will now be in a position to better challenge the powers that are in the Western conference. I liked Caron when he was a Laker, but for some reason he and Phil Jackson didn’t get along or the Lakers found someone else they liked better.

I am glad to see him return to the West once again.


Since: Mar 6, 2009
Posted on: February 12, 2010 10:35 pm

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

For those who feel Butler and Howard are on the same level must not be watching the NBA this year.  Howard is always hurt and while he does have a ton of potential, his lack of effort will keep him from becoming a star in the NBA.

Since: Jun 17, 2008
Posted on: February 12, 2010 9:40 pm

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

The trade doesnt work unless the mavericks add in quinton ross.


Since: Feb 12, 2010
Posted on: February 12, 2010 9:39 pm

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

If you want to win in the NBA you need a superstar. One way to get one is to lose badly enough often enough that you end up with Tim Duncan or Lebron James. Hopefully you dont lose badly enough the year Sean Bradley or Kwame Brown or anyone the Clippers have ever drafted is your best option. I feel bad for the Clippers its just the way their luck has been.

Your second option is to make a trade that miraculously lands you a superstar, or in the Lakers case two, Kobe and Gasol. This is a tough method if you are perpetually bad. You will always be the one giving up the Gasols and Garnetts in a never ending rebuilding effort.  I give an applause to the Hawks who have stuck it out and rebuilt. Unfortunately for them they will play second fiddle to the Cavs and Lebron.  Lebron will get every call in a playoff series this is a fact.

The problem with this deal for the Wizards is that they gave up a starting center and a legitimate third option in what appears to be a salary dump. They were doing poorly enough they could have ended up with Wall or had a 12% chance and had an instant turnaround. They still would never be able to beat Lebron, or D Wade or Kobe but they may have been interesting.

Since: Aug 8, 2008
Posted on: February 12, 2010 9:16 pm

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

As a fan of both the wizards and mavericks im nothing but thrilled by this potential move. the mavs could use a playmaker like caron butler to go alongside dirk and jason terry. seriously, how does this not make the mavericks better? it even makes the wizards better, adding josh howard, who was disgruntled in dallas, and drew gooden who was a good sub but never a top quality player. theres got to be more to this trade but overall im in favor.

Since: Oct 25, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2010 9:05 pm

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

"Look at the successful teams in the NBA. They all drafted their centerpieces and built accordingly. Dwight Howard and Orlando, Kobe and LA, Dirk and the Mavs, LeBron and the Cavs, Duncan and the Spurs."

Wonderful thought...except for the fact that Dallas didn't draft Dirk, nor did the Lakers draft Kobe.  Both were aquired via trade.  Other than that, great theory there.

Since: Jan 23, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2010 8:44 pm

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

In no way is Caron Butler the key to the Wizards' future. Don't get me wrong, he would certainly be a good candidate to build around as a "glue guy" but he isn't the type of player that is going to elevate the franchise himself. Add to that the failure to reach the postseason in the last few years, for whatever reasons that exist, the franchise needs to move on. They made a poor investment in Gilbert Arenas and did too much to maintain a lineup that didn't reach the second round of the playoffs after Larry Hughes left and Butler was brought in. The Wizards have left the draft by the wayside as they brought in free agents and tried to fit square pegs in round holes.

There is no true shooting guard on the team (Mike Miller hasn't been active enough to make a difference), no true point guard (outside of Randy Foye), Butler was often overmatched against bigger small forward, Antawn Jamison (as much as he has done for the team and as great as he has played) is still an undersized, over-the-hill power forward. Brendan Haywood has been injured, and is only now showing his double-double potential, but too little too late. All the players that were supposed to bring the Wizards to the playoffs and beyond haven't been on the floor together enough, and don't have chemistry when they are healthy.

Look at the successful teams in the NBA. They all drafted their centerpieces and built accordingly. Dwight Howard and Orlando, Kobe and LA, Dirk and the Mavs, LeBron and the Cavs, Duncan and the Spurs. How many of those teams have reached the finals and/or won titles? The Wizards are long overdue for a real rebuild, and this could be the right way to start. If the Wizards can get out from under Arenas' contract, move Jamison to a team looking to contend, get a few picks in the process, they'll have a brighter future than ever before.

Since: May 26, 2009
Posted on: February 12, 2010 8:27 pm

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

This is definitely a good move for Dallas. If the other rumors are true and they must also give up Gooden then I don't like it quite as much. Gooden adds a little offense and a litte rebounding from the bench as well as increased depth.

Since: May 12, 2009
Posted on: February 12, 2010 7:35 pm

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

ESPN radio said earlier that the package was going to be Howard, Gooden and an unknown third player for Butler and Haywood. Wouldn't that be nice!

Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2010 7:26 pm

Butler-to-Mavs 'looks like it will go through'

I'm a Wizards fan.  I'm overjoyed they're breaking up this team.  The Wizards were poorly conceived by Grunfeld in the first place.  At their best, with a healthy Butler, Jamison and Arenas, they got no further then the second round in the playoffs and more typically were bounced by Cleveland in the first.  So what does Grunfeld do?  Sign an injured Arenas to a max-price contract and thus eliminate any real chance to get the type of players that help you win playoff games (hint: they are not jump shooters).

The gun incident just added embarrassment to a somewhat underachieving team.

As a Wizards fan, bring on a new cast.  This is nothing against Butler and Jamison. Caron can flat out play.  He was typically overshadowed by Arenas.  Jamison is a warrior.  It's time, however, for players to move on.  And fans to have new people to root for.

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