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T-Mac to Knicks (UPDATE)

Posted on: February 18, 2010 1:28 pm
Edited on: February 18, 2010 4:38 pm
 

Recovering from an initial blow that saw Tracy McGrady heading to Sacramento overnight, the Knicks successfully expanded it into a three-team deal that sends the former All-Star to New York -- and clears Jared Jeffries' cap-clogging contract, a key person involved in the negotiations told CBSSports.com.

The Knicks will send Jeffries, Jordan Hill, and draft-pick considerations to Houston, which gets Kevin Martin and Hilton Armstrong from Sacramento and sends McGrady and Sergio Rodriguez to the Knicks. The Kings get Carl Landry and Joey Dorsey from Houston and Larry Hughes from New York.

The three-team blockbuster evolved from talks among the Rockets, Knicks and Bulls involving McGrady's $23 million contract. The Bulls, unsuccessful in their attempt to recruit a third team to meet Houston's demands, pulled out of the discussions Wednesday and found other avenues to clear 2010 cap space -- sending John Salmons to the Bucks and Tyrus Thomas to the Bobcats. The Knicks and Rockets hammered away over the issue of draft-pick protection for hours, until Sacremento emerged early Thursday as a facilitator by agreeing to send Martin -- long coveted by the Rockets -- to Houston.

The deal involving Houston and Sacramento could have stood alone, but was designed as an avenue to steer McGrady to New York in a three-team deal if all demands could be met. The sticking point was the level of protection New York required on their 2011 and 2012 first-round picks. The Knicks were discussing the right to swap 2011 first-rounders with Houston, which would get the Knicks' 2012 No. 1 pick depending on where it falls in the draft.

In the end, the Knicks paid a dear price. The Rockets will have the right to swap No. 1 picks in 2011 with the Knicks unless New York's pick is first overall. The 2012 firs-round pick going to Houston is top-5 protected.

It cost the Knicks a premium price to clear Jeffries' $6.9 million contract off the 2010-11 books. But doing so all but accomplished the goal team president Donnie Walsh set out to achieve when he came to New York -- become a major player in the 2010 free-agent class, recognized by all involved as potentially the best in NBA history. By shedding Jeffries, Walsh will have only four players under contract for '10-'11 -- Eddy Curry, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, and Toney Douglas. The Knicks are a Curry buyout away from having the space to sign two max players. If those free agents prefer the sign-and-trade route -- which would get them more money and an extra year -- the Knicks are positioned to accommodate that as well.

Comments

Since: Sep 1, 2006
Posted on: February 18, 2010 2:05 pm
 

T-Mac to Knicks (UPDATE)

What happen ? Tmac was once one of the top 5 players , now he a piece of crap? I know he been hurt like forever.But he still has something left.



Since: Oct 27, 2006
Posted on: February 18, 2010 2:04 pm
 

T-Mac to Knicks (UPDATE)

Wow!!! How did the Rockets pull this off??? 1st of all McGrady wasn't even playing for Houston so they basically lost Sergio Rodriguez(who cares) for Kevin Martin(wasn't this guy touted as the Franchise player in Sacramento noo too long ago?), Jordan Hill(8th overall pick last year who I liked alot at University of Arizona) and a 1st rd pick from the Knicks...which u know is gonna be high!!! If Yao Ming can come back healthy next year this deal makes the rockets a contender!!! If ur a Hosuton fan u gotta love the Knicks right about now!!!!



Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: February 18, 2010 2:04 pm
 

T-Mac to Knicks (UPDATE)

Gangreen.....

Bosh + Joe Johnson+ improving players in Chandler, Gallinari, Toney Douglas= Playoff contender in the East.  I agree about the future picks, but disagree about Jordan Hill (should we NOT have drafted Brandon Jennings).  I don't think he'll ever be as good as David Lee is now. 

If the Knicks can pull off something similar to what the Celtics good a couple years ago, they're right back in contention. 



Since: Sep 6, 2009
Posted on: February 18, 2010 2:01 pm
 

T-Mac to Knicks (UPDATE)

Wow, I have heard all the particulars of the deal discussed in the NY media, but it's still a little surprising to see them give up on a lottery pick so quickly.

Not that I loved Jordan Hill, I think he might become a capable NBA starter, but he was just a bad fit on a team that had a glut at power forward and had a clear need for a PG. I think the Knicks panicked when Curry and Rubio were gone, and wound up drafting Hill when they should have just traded down.

Impressed that they were able to clear Jeffries contract, he's a versatile player, but he is more of a complimentary player who unfortunately was making starter money.

This is definitely a huge gamble on the Knicks part however. My understanding is the "draft pick consideration" would be the right to swap 2011 picks with the Knicks as well as recieving the Knicks 2012 pick (their 2010 pick belongs to Utah and the league forbids dealing 1st rounders in back to back years) . If the Knicks swing and miss on landing 2 quality free-agents, that could mean the Knicks would miss out on a lottery picks 4 years in a row (including the trade of Hill), True, things could play out dramatically differently, but knowing the way the Knicks have been run in recent years, it would be hard to rule out.

I can picture it now, the big guys snub the Knicks, the Knicks wind up signing Stoudamire and either signing Joe Johnson or re-upping McGrady, and the cycle of mediocrity continues... actual, mediocrity would be a step up for the Knicks at this point.



Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: February 18, 2010 1:59 pm
 

T-Mac to Knicks (UPDATE)

I really hope this isn't the deal, I just don't get why the Knicks would do it trading Hill who was the 8th pick in draft with an untapped ceiling the kid has only been playing ball for 6 years !!! and to top it off giving away the 1st rounders is an absolut travesty when will we learn we cannot continue to give away our picks that is the reason why we're in this mess still.
Walsh is no better than than Layden for god's sake ,I'd say Thomas but that's as bad as it gets and he's not that bad ....yet.
we won't get Lebron I don't want Wade so who's it going to be Bosh and Joe Johnson??? c'mon we've waited for that ??????

I wouldn't get so worried about this. I really don't think trading draft picks is what put us in this position. There aren't really any draft picks we have trade that would have given us a position where we could have drafted a difference maker. Jordan Hill is a nice player and all, but potential is all he really offers right now and this a below average team, with few long term pieces. His potential isn't worth as much when there isn't much to surround him with anyway. Trying to land two big time players next year is very risky, but the better proposition. Landing LeBron and Bosh would be HUGE.

Also, this trade helps a lot for this season. Sergio Rodqiguez is a very solid point guard. I can't believe we got him in this trade. He will help a ton splitting time with Duhon. T-Mac? Who knows. He was mainly for salary cap, but if he can recover 60-70% of his previous play, then we got an awesome SG for the rest of the season and might make the playoffs, which would pay even more dividends in interesting FA's to come here.

Also, we only gave up one pick down the road in 2012. The 2011 pick we still get, it just will be lower than the Rockets. Overall I think this is a pretty good trade. We just have to get Lebron and/or Wade and Bosh or Joe Johnson.



Since: Dec 11, 2008
Posted on: February 18, 2010 1:58 pm
 

T-Mac to Knicks (UPDATE)

Nice move in the right direction for the Knicks. Yall have to understand we DO NOT draft well at all. The picks dont really matter. And as a Knick fan my hopes aren't high on getting Lebron this offseason.  But it shows that we are trying to make changes and get better NOW. Offloading Jeffries contract was huge for the Knicks today. We brought in someone that can maybe help bring in someone like Boozer and Joe Johnson or some other duo.  Dont forget, I wouldn't be surprised to see Stoudamire in NYC this summer either. There are alot of moves that will be made and alot of pretty good free agents out there still besides the names that keep popping up. The Knicks just need to compete just like ATL is. Remember how sorry they were for a very long time? well thats how the Knicks have been this whole decade. I feel this is the right move for now.  Drafts dont matter if your not drafting 1-6.  And name me 5 TOP players that will make a impact coming into the league next year besides J. Wall? Dont worry, I'll wait....



Since: Feb 29, 2008
Posted on: February 18, 2010 1:49 pm
 

T-Mac to Knicks (UPDATE)

I really hope this isn't the deal, I just don't get why the Knicks would do it trading Hill who was the 8th pick in draft with an untapped ceiling the kid has only been playing ball for 6 years !!! and to top it off giving away the 1st rounders is an absolut travesty when will we learn we cannot continue to give away our picks that is the reason why we're in this mess still.
Walsh is no better than than Layden for god's sake ,I'd say Thomas but that's as bad as it gets and he's not that bad ....yet.
we won't get Lebron I don't want Wade so who's it going to be Bosh and Joe Johnson??? c'mon we've waited for that ??????



Since: Feb 3, 2008
Posted on: February 18, 2010 1:46 pm
 

T-Mac to Knicks (UPDATE)

We could also say the same about T-MAc



Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: February 18, 2010 1:45 pm
 

T-Mac to Knicks (UPDATE)

Good! Tracy McGrady can rot in the Knicks training room. I certainly didn't want him in Chicago. 2010 free agents would be fools to go to New York. That franchise is cursed. 



Since: Apr 7, 2009
Posted on: February 18, 2010 1:43 pm
 

T-Mac to Knicks close

it doesn´t matter who play with the knicks, they will suck anyway...


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