Blog Entry

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns (UPDATE)

Posted on: July 12, 2010 10:36 am
Edited on: July 13, 2010 12:13 pm
A cautionary tale for teams doling out millions to free agents in 2010: In some cases, it's only a matter of time before those same free agents are dumped overboard at a discount.

Case in point: Hedo Turkoglu, the most sought-after free agent of 2009. After leading the Magic to the NBA Finals, Turkoglu flirted with the Trail Blazers before landing in Toronto for five years and $53 million. Twelve months later, the Raptors unloaded the disgruntled forward in a three-team trade with Phoenix and Charlotte.

So much for Turkoglu leading the Raptors anywhere but rebuilding.

The trade expanded into a three-team arrangement Monday, with the Raptors getting Leandro Barbosa from Phoenix and Tyson Chandler and Boris Diaw from Charlotte while sending Jose Calderon to the Bobcats, a person with knowledge of the deal told The framework is pending a trade call with the NBA office later Monday, the source said.

UPDATED 12:20 a.m. ET: But Yahoo! Sports reported early Tuesday that Bobcats owner Michael Jordan was having "second thoughts" about participating in the deal. Jordan's reluctance came after players in the deal had been informed they'd been traded, and it imperiled all but the initial Turkoglu-for-Barbosa portion of the trade.

UPDATED 12:13 p.m. ET: The Toronto Star reported Tuesday afternoon that the Bobcats portion of the deal is dead , nixed by Jordan's concerns.

In the make-believe world of NBA trades, this one actually makes sense. The Raptors get rid of Turkoglu, who was never happy with his role in Toronto, and get a playmaker in Barbosa with only a one-year commitment. They use a portion of the $14.5 million trade exception received in the Chris Bosh sign-and-trade to make the deal pass muster under the 125 percent rule required to validate trades between teams that are over the salary cap. Turkoglu is on the books for $9.8 millon next season.

The Suns, trying to move on after losing Amar'e Stoudemire to the Knicks, made another solid move in acquiring restricted free agent Josh Childress from Atlanta for a second-round pick. By doing so, Phoenix bypasses the offer sheet and seven-day matching procedure for restricted free agents, which eliminates what would've been merely a formality since the Hawks were not going to match an offer sheet for Childress after signing Joe Johnson to a max deal. With Turkoglu's play-making ability and Childress' athleticism, it's hard not to like the Suns' post-Amar'e look. Childress, who gets a five-year, $34 million deal, will give coach Alvin Gentry more flexibility in his rotations. Turkoglu will take some of the pressure off an aging Steve Nash to be the playmaker and ballhandler on every possession.


Since: Feb 25, 2010
Posted on: July 12, 2010 2:51 pm

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns (UPDATE)

Stunning move by Phoenix. Simply fantastic. They were out with the washing after Amare left - Now they are more than relevant - they are a potential 2 seed in the Week West. Turkoglu is a very very fine player - he had one bad year which is unfortunate but he will bounce back. Childress is the dark horse of this free agency. Was magnificent in Greece as his team dominated - he basically led them all the way - his head is screwed on these days.

The suns are a real threat and I'm not happy as a Blazers fan but I respect what they have achieved here.

Calderon cannot defend to save his life so what he is doing at a pure defensive team like Charlotte beggars belief. Larry Brown may possibly be on crack.

Since: Jan 23, 2007
Posted on: July 12, 2010 2:51 pm

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns (UPDATE)

While I love Kevin Love, he isn't high on the list of formidable big men in the league. He is big (6'10" 260 lbs) but he is a finesse player more than anything else. The guy plays his heart out and is a double-double per night kind of player, but he doesn't strike fear into opponents' hearts on the block. Maybe that's what Phoenix needs, though, a hard-working guy who can do the dirty work on the glass and be efficient during his time on the floor. He is a great passing big man, so it would fit perfectly into the multiple threats that the Suns would have on the floor (Channing Frye, Jason Richardson, Steve Nash, Josh Childress). They've got all the speed in the world, but don't have the grit to stand up to the soft but persistent Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum in LA.

Since: Apr 20, 2010
Posted on: July 12, 2010 1:20 pm

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns

I think it may be the case that CBS has great Fantasy sports and when it comes corresponding real games they SUCK.

Since: Nov 20, 2006
Posted on: July 12, 2010 1:03 pm

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns

turkey will be fine...he can most certainly shoot

Since: Jul 12, 2010
Posted on: July 12, 2010 12:36 pm

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns

No way Hornets will give up Collison. With CP3 bound to leave next year they are gonna need their backup franchise pg to soften the blow

Since: May 3, 2009
Posted on: July 12, 2010 12:28 pm

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns

Not as bad of a guy as Lebron James.

Since: Apr 10, 2008
Posted on: July 12, 2010 12:03 pm

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns

what makes him so bad?

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: July 12, 2010 11:57 am

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns

Neither Hedo or Josh fit the Suns current system of play.  Hedo is certainly more of a half court guy..., and the Steve Nash style of up and down, pick and pop pick and roll is different.  Hedo will do well when he has the ball in his hands making plays for himself.  I don't know about this one...

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: July 12, 2010 11:45 am

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns

I dont understand the first statement........... "it's only a matter of time before those same free agents are dumped overboard at a discount."

I dont really think it was at a discount. They paid Turk a lot for 5 years. He wasn't performing and wasnt happy after his first. They got a 7.1 mil expiring contract and more importantly, got out of paying Turk for 4 years.

I'm not saying he isn't worth that money because, being a nash fan, Im assuming he will do great in Phoenix. But not in Toronto.

So I think its win, win.

Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: July 12, 2010 11:31 am

Turkoglu, Childress to Suns

I like the Josh Childress move by Phoenix he's a versatile player that can play the SG or SF and should fit well coming off the bench or starting for Alvin Gentry, but I'm not sold on Turkoglu.  He's another versatile player who can dribble, shoot and pass but he quit on his team!  He quit when they were still in the playoff picture.  He doesn't play defense and his shoot first mentality will definitely have to change.  Beside Lopez who's going to rebound for Phoenix?  They have a deep bench that may actually be better than their starting five?  Definitely a good move to get Childress but I'm not sure with Turkoglu.  Also, Turkoglu is a current client and Childress a former client of player-agent Lon Babby who has been reported to have accepted Steve Kerr's vacated position with Phoenix.  Mark Cuban will be all over this one like a cheap suit!    

The views expressed in this blog are solely those of the author and do not reflect the views of CBS Sports or