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As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

Posted on: December 15, 2010 2:52 pm
 
Carmelo Anthony is still a Nugget. He will still be a Nugget Thursday night, when Denver plays San Antonio.

How long will he be a Nugget? Long enough for Denver management to assess all its options and get the best possible deal for the three-time All-Star.

That could take a while. This has been going on since September, so what's the rush?

The breathless speculation over when and where Anthony will be traded took a bizarre turn in the past 14 hours or so, with a Denver television station reporting that the Nets and Nuggets had "come to an understanding" on a trade, then backtracking, then posting a story on its website Wednesday saying the Nets "have the pieces in place for a potential trade," with a note at the end of the story saying the station "stands by this story."

Really? Which one?

Here are the facts: The Nets have been putting the pieces in place to acquire Anthony for three months, and they took a major step toward sweetening their offer by acquiring two more first-round picks in a trade with the Rockets and Lakers, which was completed Wednesday. The Nets' efforts to land Anthony have always been -- and will always be -- contingent on Anthony agreeing to sign a three-year, $65 million extension as part of the deal.

"It hasn't gotten there," a person directly involved in the trade discussions told CBSSports.com Wednesday. "And I don't know when it's going to get there, if it's going to get there."

In other words: chill.

Another fact: The Nuggets continue to engage the Nets and other teams in trade discussions, because that is their job. And as CBSSports.com reported last week, the team has all but decided it will trade Anthony if he does not signal his intentions to sign an extension with them before the Feb. 24 trade deadline. Anthony told CBSSports.com Saturday that he doesn't believe he needs to apprise the Nuggets of his decision on the extension before the deadline. Thus, the Nuggets are handling their business -- making and receiving trade calls -- and the Nets are continuing to amass as many assets as they can, some of which Denver specifically asked for in an Anthony trade.

Again, it comes back to whether Anthony will agree to an extension in a trade that sends him to New Jersey. A person directly involved in Anthony's decision-making process told CBSSports.com Sunday that he recently became entrenched in his belief that, if traded, he would only agree to an extension if sent to the Knicks. A rival team executive corroborated that information Tuesday, telling CBSSports.com that the Nets "got word that Melo will not sign there. They can't get it done."

The Nets, who now have five first-round picks in the next two drafts, continue to proceed on the information they've received from Anthony's camp -- that he would extend with them as part of a trade.

Those are the facts. They're messy and complicated and can't be explained in a breathless tweet followed by an exclamation point. As the Nuggets gathered for practice and scouting meetings Wednesday, a person involved in the process said players and management officials alike were "laughing" at speculation that a trade agreement had already been reached. 

"Sad," is how the official described the current state of affairs. 

And he used another word:

"Comedy".




Comments

Since: Nov 19, 2007
Posted on: December 16, 2010 2:17 am
 

As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

I have to ask, with 5 first round picks over the next two years coupled with the move to Brooklyn in 2012, why don't the Nets move on and build a great FRANCHISE?  I know this will get more than a few laughs, but if they have a lottery pick this year why not couple that with a free agent signing of, say, Tim Duncan OR Tony Parker who could help mentor a draftee into a great player?  It seems that there's this unnecessary obsession with winning today and not building a sustainable franchise.  I'm no Spurs fan, but you have to give them credit when it's due.  They did that with Robinson and Duncan and look how that turned out.  They're consistently at the top of the pack and always a threat for a championship.  Patience is a great virtue, one that seems to be lacking for the majority of teams today.  GO RAPTORS! hahaha



Since: Dec 20, 2008
Posted on: December 15, 2010 11:41 pm
 

As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

Eddie, he already opened his mouth, its too late.  Now he's playing all kinds of games and being strict about where he wants to be traded to, the Nuggets are stuck between a rock and a hard place, the Knicks are in the same boat because they don't wanna have to trade key players away, Melo started all this because well.. he couldn't be "mellow" for another year and just play it out in Denver.  He may not be demanding trade anymore but he obviously did enough earlier to create this circus of questions around him everyday on where he's going.  And what it boils down to is one of these team's gonna lose out.  Seriously Melo shoulda just waited to speak or demand anything, and I think even he realizes that now.  All because he's worried about making a few extra mil, just give the guy a commercial and a few endorsements in the big apple next year, he'll be happy with his pay.  As long as Knicks fans don't have to give up players that usually accumulate around 50-60 points each game for us to get him.

  



Since: Oct 13, 2010
Posted on: December 15, 2010 10:58 pm
 

As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

The idea that melo needs to shut up is idiotic, because he hasn't actually said anything.  Everything people are speculating about has either come from a leak from some supposed person who knows him, or it's just plain rumors.  All he is doing is not signing an extension, because he most likely wants to play elswhere, and that may be disloyal, but it is within his rights.  The fact is he actually hasn't said shit, so saying that he's being a dick and making demands to screw the nuggets over is just untrue. 



Since: Dec 20, 2008
Posted on: December 15, 2010 10:16 pm
 

As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

"As a Nuggets fan, I hope he tears his achilles tendon and never plays well agian. He has totally screwed them by making himself untradable. Even the Knicks wont trade for him now, they will just wait for free agency." -CPCT


You're right, as great of a player as he may be he's coming off as more of a punk everyday.  Why did he even demand a trade to begin with if he was only gonna jerk everyone around.  As a Knicks fan, I don't want him on my team until next year anyway, I don't want him to screw up the structure and winning chemistry the Knicks have going on right now. If he wants to sign as a free agent next year, cool.  But I wouldn't give up Gallo, Chandler, Fields in a trade for a guy who is playing head games and acting like another LeBron right now. 

And I'm not even sure how beneficial Melo would be in D'antoni's system, I know he'd score points but defensively we'd probably get even weaker with him in there. And the offensive players Denver would want to take away from us for him would only nullify what offense he provides when he gets here if we were to make a trade for him. 

Melo should really just shut up right now.  The Knicks will have the door open for him...after June!



Since: Dec 20, 2008
Posted on: December 15, 2010 10:05 pm
 

As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

yeah we aren't the ones who need to chill. the writer needs to get some new stories, real ones with different subjects instead of speculative "where's Melo going?" and "oh Melo might be going here" everyday.  These articles are getting old. real old.



Since: Mar 2, 2009
Posted on: December 15, 2010 9:26 pm
 

As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

If Melo insists on going to the Knicks, there's one bit of leverage the Nuggets have that would make New York have to acquire him in a sign-and-trade, rather than just waiting for free agency--money.  With a new CBA coming, it's very likely that the maximum Melo would get under free agency in the new world is less than he can get with the extention the Nuggets currently have on the table.  So, he'll either need to tell Knicks management to get a sign-and-trade done, or he'll need to expand the number of teams he's willing to be traded to.  Otherwise, he's going to be leaving money on the table, and very few players do that. 

I'm pretty sure Knicks management knows that they'll have to give Denver something to avoid the possibility of a conflict with Melo over $$.  But, it's likely that what they'll offer will not be as good as what Denver could get from the Nets.  Ultimately, though, the Nuggets will have to bit the bullet and take what they Knicks offer unless another team with championship hopes jumps in and offers a better package without demanding an extention (which isn't terribly likely).



Since: Mar 18, 2008
Posted on: December 15, 2010 9:08 pm
 

As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

As a Nuggets fan, I hope he tears his achilles tendon and never plays well agian. He has totally screwed them by making himself untradable. Even the Knicks wont trade for him now, they will just wait for free agency.




Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: December 15, 2010 8:58 pm
 

As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

Maybe CBS needs to "chill" and wait until there is something concrete in place with this situation before the next writer posts another "Melo trade in the works" column. It's getting old for everyone.



Since: Dec 17, 2006
Posted on: December 15, 2010 8:38 pm
 

As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

Why would Melo go to New Jersey?

Let me explain how it's going to happen:

David Stern placed Patrick Ewing in New York. He also placed Mikhail Prokhorov in New Jersey.

David Stern is taking control of the Hornets and they're bleeding cash fast. So how do you give your new buddy Mikhail enough firepower to ensure success while also keeping an eye on the future in Brooklyn and Kansas City? (Did I say Kansas City?)

You package the 5 draft choices the Nets have over the next two years and you send them to the Hornets for Chris Paul and David West.

You then relocate the Hornets to the $276 million Sprint Center in Kansas City, selling the team to the Anschutz Entertainment Group, who is a joint-owner of the Sprint Center. The NBA loves owners with deep pockets. (See Prokhorov, Mikhail.)

But Anthony says he only wants to go to New York if he's playing for the Knicks, otherwise he won't sign the extension that's been on the table seemingly forever. Denver is at Melo's mercy when it comes to the extension; he's willing to play out the season and sign with the Knicks as a free agent. With every day that passes, the Knicks get a little more smug as they get a little closer to Melo's free agency period.

Remember that toast at Melo's wedding? Who says the Big Three can't be Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony and David West? That's how you get Melo to sign the extension with the Nets - you bring in other all stars first and let them recruit the man. Suddenly, Melo is on a championship contender and he still gets the endorsement money he so rightfully deserves. David West as the Big Third Piece? If you don't like him, package him with Devin Harris and find a more suitable piece. All that really matters is Melo and Paul. Really.

So what do the Nuggets get if the Hornets get all those draft picks? (BTW, that's the brilliance of the deal; the Hornets dump salary so the NBA doesn't bleed alongside their new acquisition. And the new owner gets all those draft picks. What could be finer?) The Nuggets get Derrick Favors ($4 mil salary), Brook Lopez ($2.5 mil salary) and Troy Murphy ($12 mil). The Nuggets throw in another player to balance out the salaries.

But I thought the Nuggets were insisting on draft picks? Not when they get Lopez as part of the deal. Deemed untouchable in earlier talks, the Nets are willing to part with the young center to bring in The New Big Three. Sure, they'd like to keep him but at this point they need to be realistic or Anthony's going to the Knicks.

So Denver gets the young player they covet in Lopez. (And young Josh Kroenke gets to save face.)

The NBA gets two up-and-coming teams in New York and gets out of New Orleans.

And David Stern gets three happy billionaires firmly behind him as the NBA moves towards its future (as the WBA).

And Melo gets to take his smile to New York.

Smiles all around. Except in New Orleans, but all they really need is the Saints anyway.



Since: Dec 7, 2007
Posted on: December 15, 2010 8:28 pm
 

As the Melo turns: fact vs. fiction

I think the best move for both the Nuggets and Anthony is to play out the season. He can make a sign and trade happen just like LeBron. David Lee and others this off-season for max money. The Knicks still have the cap space and some assets they acquired from the Warriors like Turiaf and Randolf. Not as good as the Nets for Denver. Personally, I hope they trade him for Monta Ellis. Both teams would improve, and then Melo would know what a it's like to get true love from really great fans. Nuggets fans are cool, but Knicks fans are brutal. 


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