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Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

Posted on: December 18, 2010 2:57 pm
Edited on: December 18, 2010 5:32 pm
In a blockbuster trade that changes the complexion of the Eastern Conference, the Magic are getting Hedo Turkoglu and Jason Richardson from the Suns and Gilbert Arenas from the Wizards, league sources confirmed to

The Suns send Turkoglu back to Orlando, where he thrived, along with Richardson and Earl Clark for Vince Carter, Marcin Gortat and Mickael Pietrus. Orlando also sends a 2011 first-round pick and cash to Phoenix and acquires Arenas from Washington for Rashard Lewis, the sources said.

It is a swing-for-the-fences for Orlando, which came under immense pressure to make a big trade while losing five of its last six games and taking an obvious back seat to Boston and Miami in the East. Turkoglu, who struggled in stints with Toronto and Phoenix, returns to Orlando -- where he was a key piece in Magic's run to the 2009 NBA Finals.

Arenas is the bigger name, but the key to the deal could be Richardson, a perimeter sniper who fits the Magic's style and gives them a clutch scorer and big-time shooter to further space the floor for Dwight Howard.

The Rockets tried to get into the mix for Gortat, whom they've coveted for several years, but wouldn't give up Kevin Martin, two people familiar with the situation said.

In addition to making Orlando a more potent offensive team -- and, once again, a matchup nightmare with Turkoglu back in the role that suits him best -- the second part of the deal gives a much needed fresh start to Arenas. The former All-Star gets an improbable chance to resurrect his career away from the place where his status as the face of the Wizards franchise crumbled amid persistent knee injuries and a 50-game suspension for bringing firearms to the Verizon Center locker room last season.

Aside from trying to reload in a way that justifies their $94 million payroll, the Magic also are taking bold steps to placate Howard and dissuade him from entering the 2012 free-agent class. Some members of the Magic organization, including Howard and coach Stan Van Gundy, have had serious reservations about bringing in Arenas since first reported in October that a deal had been arranged for the mercurial superstar over the summer. That deal was built around Carter going to Washington.

Magic GM Otis Smith, who has a close relationship with Arenas from their days in Golden State, will consummate his months-long effort to extract Arenas from Washington. The Wizards, who have turned the franchise over to No. 1 pick John Wall, are all too willing to oblige -- especially given the $62 million Arenas is owed over the next three seasons.

"It was a challenging situation for Gilbert," Arenas' agent, Dan Fegan, told "Ted Leonsis gave him a clean slate and really worked to make this situation work. He did a very decent thing by brokering a trade to Orlando and giving Gilbert a second chance."

That is the price Orlando had to pay to make room for Turkoglu and Richardson, whose presence made Lewis -- whose production has significantly declined -- no longer necessary. While the Magic are taking on significant money with Arenas and Turkolgu, Richardson's $14.4 million contract expires after this season. And Turkoglu eases the burden because he accepted a reduction in guaranteed money in 2013-14, the final year of his contract, as part of the trade that sent him from Toronto to Phoenix.

The dual swaps presumably give Orlando a starting lineup of Howard at center, Brandon Bass at power forward, Turkoglu at small forward, Richardson at shooting guard and -- here's the big question -- either Arenas or Jameer Nelson at point guard. Van Gundy also has the flexibility to play Turkoglu at the four in smaller lineups that might feature Richardson at the three with Nelson and Arenas in the backcourt. While Smith could've waited until the 11th hour on the Feb. 24 trade deadline to complete the Lewis-for-Arenas portion, the upside is that Van Gundy gets more time to figure out how to fit all of these pieces together. With Boston having the most continuity among its stars in the East, and with Miami beginning to make its Big Three work on an 11-game winning streak, time is a valuable commodity to the Magic as they try to retool on the fly.

From the Phoenix perspective, the Suns get a much-needed big man in Gortat, a poor man's version of Richardson in Pietrus, and the essentially expiring contract of Carter, who has only $4 million guaranteed next season. But besides Gortat, the primary haul for Phoenix is a first-round pick and $3 million for cash-strapped owner Robert Sarver -- raising serious questions about whether Steve Nash will want to stay in Phoenix to rebuild.


Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: December 18, 2010 7:27 pm

Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

Nash should go to either Miami or New York.  If he goes to NY then Melo goes there as well.  That would be one hellava 4 team race in the east!

Since: Dec 15, 2007
Posted on: December 18, 2010 7:19 pm

Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

Wow!  Magic seemed to compound the poor deals they have made the past 2 years.  I may be misreading the impacts from these trades, but the Magic may have so weakened the team that they are now fighting with Chicago for the 4th best team in the east - and I think Chicago is better.  Sad to see  a realy good team fall by the wayside. Phoenix too.

Since: Jul 11, 2009
Posted on: December 18, 2010 6:45 pm

Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

And Bass may be undersized, but he's still a pretty rebounder.  It's not like Rashard Lewis was exactly killing the boards the last few years.  Bass also makes them a little tougher down low.  He's got a good mid-range game and isn't afraid to mix it up.  Again, I think more pieces may be coming and going (a deal with Charlotte or Portland could definitely happen).

Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: December 18, 2010 6:44 pm

Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

So, I'm a Phoenix fan, so we will start there... first look at the contracts moving around... 3 big ones (with multiple years left) in Arenas, Lewis, and Turk... the magic just took 2 of them on, and the wiz took the other.   jrich's is big for this season, but only this season... Carters is big for this season, with a 4mil(nothing) garantee next year... the role players from clark to pietrus and gortat are expendable... as is a likely 25th or so pick.   I always thought VC was a bad idea in Orlando... a SG who can't shoot the 3 on a team that relies on 3's... i always thought Reddick would have melded better starting than VC on that team... now don't get me wrong, I hate VC and he is now on my team, but i think i can deal with him for a year.  Orlando and the Wiz essentially swapped bad contracts, but Lewis' was worse, so this was pretty much a salary dump... turk with play lewis' role.  Lewis will start with the wiz, and shouldn't be too bad in their linup... at least as good as habachi man was.  Now for the suns we trade our leading though inconsistent scorer (Jrich)... our biggest contract bust (Turk)... and who cares about clark..... we get Gortat and pietrus... both low contract guys who fit in the system... and a VC who as far as I care can sit on the bench... the pick may or may not turn into something.  I really think it was a good deal for all 3 teams involved except my team has to deal with vincesanity... but one year of him seems better than 4 years of turk... and we get a pick to boot.  and as for the destination for nash... i predict Miami....

Since: Jul 11, 2009
Posted on: December 18, 2010 6:42 pm

Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

I don't think there are many options out there at this point, unless it's a D League player coming up.  I think they still have some pieces that can be moved, so Orlando's roster may undergo more changes.  By the time the trade deadline passes, it may be Dwight Howard and eight new faces.

Since: Jan 22, 2007
Posted on: December 18, 2010 6:19 pm

Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

Problem is they are Thin as paper inside besides D12 they have an Undersized Bass at PF and thats it..

Since: Nov 16, 2010
Posted on: December 18, 2010 6:12 pm

Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

Turkoglu got his money and decided he was not going to show up anymore. Orlando seems to be the only place where this guys been any good. The Magic seem to be taking a serious run at the eastern conference, id love to see them take the Heat out. As a Raptor fan u better hope Hedo don't do what he did to us.

Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: December 18, 2010 6:11 pm

Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

told ya it was goin's one of those hate to tell you so moments....hahaha.

Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: December 18, 2010 6:04 pm

Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

Turkoglu is worthless
depends on which Turkoglu you get. IF he plays like he did when he was a member of the Magic, he's not worthless, but if he plays like he has been lately, then he's worthless.

Since: Jun 4, 2008
Posted on: December 18, 2010 5:37 pm

Magic getting Arenas, Turkoglu in blockbuster

You obviously have no idea about Turkoglu

I disagree

He was a vital piece to this teams finals run in '09 and he blends extremely well witht he players in Orlando

Hmm. Weird, because after Jameer got hurt, I remember him being the "closer" on a team that blew so many late game leads, it was embarrassing. I remember him being a bench player on the Kings and Spurs. I remember him being atrocious on the Raptors and the Suns. He's also 2 years older and two years away from being an average player.

And how does he blend? He's the 5th best scorer, 3rd best creator.... and that's only amongst the starters. Throw in Redick, and JWILL, and Turk doesn't bring anything to this team. Bitter Magic fans who had it out for Carter have their minds clouded that Turkoglu was anything other than an average player.

 Nelson, Arenas, JRich, Turkoglu, and Howard is ALOT of offense

Nelson, Arenas, JRICH, and Howard are a lot of offense and can all 3 take over a game individually on any single night. Turkoglu is worthless. Throw in the fact that he can't guard anyone, and he won't see the floor much after the first few games here.

Nelson will probably be traded to get a defensive stud like a battier or Gerald Wallace type.

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