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Knicks make final offer for Melo

Posted on: February 20, 2011 3:41 pm
Edited on: February 21, 2011 1:08 am
LOS ANGELES -- The Knicks have made what was described as their final trade proposal for Carmelo Anthony Sunday, pushing the months-long drama toward its merciful conclusion, has learned.

The Knicks would send three starters -- Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, and Raymond Felton -- to Denver for Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams and Anthony Carter, sources said Sunday. The Nuggets would get the Knicks' first-round pick in 2014, while Minnesota would get Eddy Curry's expiring contract and Anthony Randolph from New York. Curry would then be waived, and the Knicks would send as much as $3 million to Minnesota to pay his freight. 

The Wolves also would send Corey Brewer to Denver in the proposed deal. Carter must approve the trade and waive his Bird rights for the trade to be approved.

Confident that a Friday night meeting between Anthony, his representatives, and a Nets contingent led by Russian owner Mikhail Prokhorov and hip-hop mogul Jay-Z did not result in a commitment from Anthony to sign an extension with New Jersey, the Knicks are drawing the line. They are not offering rookie Landry Fields or Russian center Timofey Mozgov, two pieces Denver has asked for at various times in the negotiations, sources said.

"We shall see," Anthony said on his way out of Staples Center after the All-Star Game Sunday night, after being informed of the status of trade talks with the Knicks.

Earlier, Anthony revealed that he did not give, nor did the Nets ask for, a commitment from him on whether he would sign a contract extension that would trigger the completion of a trade that already has been agreed to between the Nuggets and New Jersey. He described the meeting with Prokhorov as "a good meeting" and "interesting," and said he was "just listening" to the Nets' presentation.

"I didn't give anybody a definitive answer," Anthony said.

Anthony said the Nuggets "have been knowing everything since day one" about where he would and wouldn't sign an extension. 

"They know everything," he said.

While Anthony privately has been entrenched for months in his position that he would only agree to an extension with the Knicks if the Nuggets traded him, a person familiar with the three-time All-Star's thinking told Sunday night that he did not close the door on the Nets in their meeting. Doing so would have eliminated the Nets as a last resort to get the three-year, $65 million extension that would be off the table in a new collective bargaining agreement.

The Anthony drama now rests in the hands of Nuggets executives Josh Kroenke and Masai Ujiri, who must decide whether to accept the Knicks' offer, continue pushing for a trade to the Nets, or keep Anthony beyond Thursday's trade deadline. Sources say it is unlikely a deal would be agreed to Sunday.

"The deadline is Thursday," Anthony said. "So obviously something has to happen, whether they trade me or I stay in Denver or whatever," Anthony said. "The end is here. All this stuff will be over with. I'm excited for this stuff to be over with, and I'm pretty sure everybody else is excited for it to be over with."

Anthony said he would "not be upset at all" if he were still with the Nuggets after the deadline.

A person familiar with the trade negotiations told Sunday that the Nuggets were still working through specifics with the Knicks and were pushing for New York to add Mozgov to the deal. Denver also hasn't shut the door on the Nets, with whom they have agreed to the framework of a trade, according to the source. But it appears that key figures in the organization have grown comfortable with the Knicks' offer, which was sweetened significantly after the Nets re-emerged in the discussions during All-Star weekend in Los Angeles.

As the Knicks' pursuit of Anthony reached a tipping point Sunday, the team released a joint statement from Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan, president Donnie Walsh, and coach Mike D'Antoni saying all three were in agreement on the Anthony discussions. In a rare and obscure step, the statement also asserted that "no one from outside our organization" was involved in the Anthony process -- an obvious reference to former team president Isiah Thomas, whose input Dolan has received since Thomas was replaced by Walsh in 2008.

With so many agendas and obfuscation attempts at play, it was difficult to predict Sunday how Denver would respond. But Nuggets executives have signaled that they want a resolution to the Anthony matter by the end of All-Star weekend -- a timetable that Anthony publicly stated that he favored, as well. 

Just as the Knicks' negotiating strategy was sidetracked by Dolan's decision to get involved in the negotiations and meet with Anthony Thursday night in Los Angeles, so have the Nuggets' efforts been influenced by agendas affecting their still complicated hierarchy. Sources say Denver's reluctance to deal with New York throughout the process was prompted more by a feeling among some segments of the team's power structure that they should not give Anthony what he wants -- the extension with the team of his choice. But sources also assert it will be difficult for Denver to turn down what could be the best offer they will receive for Anthony -- one that gives them a quality point guard, Felton, on a better contract than the Nets' Devin Harris; a young, promising frontcourt player, Chandler, who is more polished than New Jersey's Derrick Favors; a hard-nosed, floor-spacing shooter, Gallinari, instead of multiple first-round picks from New Jersey whose ultimate value is undetermined; and $20 million in immediate savings.

The Nuggets' basketball staff is said to have preferred the Nets' long-standing offer centered around Favors and multiple picks, which would set the team up for a long-term rebuilding process -- whereas the Knicks' offer provides assets better suited to a quicker turnaround after Anthony's departure. But the Nets' competing offer ran its course with Friday night's obligatory meeting between Anthony and New Jersey officials, which reported was allowed as a condition of Anthony receiving permission to meet with Dolan on Thursday.

Keeping Anthony beyond Thursday's trade deadline remains an option, though the likelihood of that has decreased dramatically, sources say. Denver is not seriously considering a nuclear option with Anthony, which would involve telling him the team will not trade him to new York and also won't give him the extension -- making New Jersey the only path to the money for Anthony. That option, sources say, would reflect poorly on the organization and could hinder its future dealings with players.


Since: Nov 23, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2011 12:45 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

The T-Wolves are the winner in this

Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: February 21, 2011 11:23 am

Knicks make final offer for Melo

This deal is ALL about trading Gallo.  That's it.  I hate trading him, but that is the real chance the Knicks are taking.  Everyone, including Walsh, knows it's better to sign him as a FA after the season.  However, Melo has said he wants to sign this year - take the 3 years $65M extension - and not face the possibility of losing $17-18M in a new CBA deal.  So now the Knick must decide whether to go get him this year or wait.  If they wait, they run the risk of him signing an extension rather than leavuing that money on the table for the Knicks.  If the ysign him this year it is NOT to win this year.  With or without Melo, they won't go far in the playoffs.  Felton?  He was ALWAYS a stop gap guard for NYK - having settled on him for a 2 year deal.  He will be replaced by Paul.  Now Billups will play next year and be replaced by Paul or Williams.  No change.  Melo replaces Chandler - a huge upgrade.  Yes he's only 23, but he has bad knees.  So its all about losig Gallo - a legit threat if he ever stays healthy and stays aggresive.  I love Gallo - but the Knicks still have the very versatile Landry Fields - if you don't watch him everyday you don't understand his high b-ball IQ.  He's a perfect team player - perfect compliment to the stars.  All the Knicks will need in 2 years is a Center.  Mosgov could be tha tguy if they get him some veteran help until he develops.  This trade hurts now - but in the future its all about losing Gallo - something D'Antoni & Walsh wanted to avoid, but the new CBA, forced their hand to do a trade instead of waiting it out. 

Since: Mar 2, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2011 11:20 am

Knicks make final offer for Melo

The Decision is another reason Melo wants this done as a sign-and-trade. 

He saw how badly LeBron's approach went over with casual NBA fans.  No one thought LeBron should have been forced to stay in Cleveland, but a lot of people thought he acted crassly towards the organization, leading them on and then essentially forcing them to do a pathetic sign-and-trade that left them with nothing.  There are lots of fans who now want James to fail in Miami because he acted like such a dick.

Everything Melo has done in this whole saga has been calculated to avoid looking like LeBron.  If, after all this time, he simply leaves as a free agent after suggesting he'd look seriously at staying in Denver's extension, he's going to look like a jerk.  He wants to leave for NY, there's no doubt.  But, he wants Nuggets fans (and NBA fans in general) to think he's not screwing the team he left behind. 

And frankly, from the NBA's point of view, that's a good thing because they need fans of smaller market teams to have hope in an era when all the top players seem to be aiming for only big markets. 

Since: Jun 7, 2010
Posted on: February 21, 2011 10:55 am

Knicks make final offer for Melo

This is a lot to give up for one  player, they're giving up their future for one player. I like Melo, but it's too risky and may not result in wins because neither Melo or Amare are good defensively. If one gets injured or simply tired of losing they'll be asking for another trade. As good a players as he is I have a hard time believing winning is his #1 priority simply because you're considering NY or NJ.

Since: Apr 26, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2011 9:35 am

Knicks make final offer for Melo

I agree smeg. I certainly wouldnt give up 3 starters for this guy. I would probably offer something like Felton, a bench player and maybe a 2nd round pick.

Since: Mar 24, 2008
Posted on: February 21, 2011 9:35 am

Knicks make final offer for Melo

Are you Kiidding? First of all The Decision Was the worst thing I have ever seen in Sports. Second he has carried the Nuggets since he got there.!!! I believe he's made the playoffs every year he's been there except his rookie year. Third you put him with Amare and they become almost instant contenders. Now when we get Chris Paul we become front runners for the title!!!! Oh and you wouldnt want him on your team?

Since: Mar 24, 2008
Posted on: February 21, 2011 9:35 am

Knicks make final offer for Melo

Are you Kiidding? First of all The Decision Was the worst thing I have ever seen in Sports. Second he has carried the Nuggets since he got there.!!! I believe he's made the playoffs every year he's been there except his rookie year. Third you put him with Amare and they become almost instant contenders. Now when we get Chris Paul we become front runners for the title!!!! Oh and you wouldnt want him on your team?

Since: Jun 2, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2011 9:18 am

Knicks make final offer for Melo

Who gives a rat's a**?  This is more painful and drawn out than "The Decision".  The guy is an above-average player, he's not the cornerstone of a franchise.  Anybody gutting their team to land this guy is making a huge mistake.

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: February 21, 2011 8:57 am

Knicks make final offer for Melo

I hope the Knicks and Nuggets don't make the deal....and Melo remains a Nugget this season. Next....the new CBA is negotiated and Melo loses his shot at 65 million. Third...the Nets franchise Brooks and the Knicks franchise Felton....leaving Melo to be tagged like an old railway trestle by the Nuggets...and take a 10 million dollar hit....enough is enough.

Since: Sep 21, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2011 8:56 am

Knicks make final offer for Melo

Keep in mind that Anthony has always wanted to be a Knick and that Amare' and Chris Paul are still in the mix as their "Big 3".  Within 2 years you will have Paul, Fields, Melo and Amare.....pretty darn to beat the Heat you need depth, just ask the Celtics.....

Anthony is coming to NY either this year or next year, so the Knicks are correct for offering what they have.  The Nuggets will eventually cave and give up Anthony (probably by Tuesday) for whatever the Knicks give since that is where Anthony wants to play.  He is not interested in playing "2nd fiddle" for the Nets......the Knicks is where he will get his name in lights and make the $$$$ in endorsements, just look at Amare'.....

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