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Knicks make final offer for Melo

Posted on: February 20, 2011 3:41 pm
Edited on: February 21, 2011 1:08 am
LOS ANGELES -- The Knicks have made what was described as their final trade proposal for Carmelo Anthony Sunday, pushing the months-long drama toward its merciful conclusion, has learned.

The Knicks would send three starters -- Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, and Raymond Felton -- to Denver for Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams and Anthony Carter, sources said Sunday. The Nuggets would get the Knicks' first-round pick in 2014, while Minnesota would get Eddy Curry's expiring contract and Anthony Randolph from New York. Curry would then be waived, and the Knicks would send as much as $3 million to Minnesota to pay his freight. 

The Wolves also would send Corey Brewer to Denver in the proposed deal. Carter must approve the trade and waive his Bird rights for the trade to be approved.

Confident that a Friday night meeting between Anthony, his representatives, and a Nets contingent led by Russian owner Mikhail Prokhorov and hip-hop mogul Jay-Z did not result in a commitment from Anthony to sign an extension with New Jersey, the Knicks are drawing the line. They are not offering rookie Landry Fields or Russian center Timofey Mozgov, two pieces Denver has asked for at various times in the negotiations, sources said.

"We shall see," Anthony said on his way out of Staples Center after the All-Star Game Sunday night, after being informed of the status of trade talks with the Knicks.

Earlier, Anthony revealed that he did not give, nor did the Nets ask for, a commitment from him on whether he would sign a contract extension that would trigger the completion of a trade that already has been agreed to between the Nuggets and New Jersey. He described the meeting with Prokhorov as "a good meeting" and "interesting," and said he was "just listening" to the Nets' presentation.

"I didn't give anybody a definitive answer," Anthony said.

Anthony said the Nuggets "have been knowing everything since day one" about where he would and wouldn't sign an extension. 

"They know everything," he said.

While Anthony privately has been entrenched for months in his position that he would only agree to an extension with the Knicks if the Nuggets traded him, a person familiar with the three-time All-Star's thinking told Sunday night that he did not close the door on the Nets in their meeting. Doing so would have eliminated the Nets as a last resort to get the three-year, $65 million extension that would be off the table in a new collective bargaining agreement.

The Anthony drama now rests in the hands of Nuggets executives Josh Kroenke and Masai Ujiri, who must decide whether to accept the Knicks' offer, continue pushing for a trade to the Nets, or keep Anthony beyond Thursday's trade deadline. Sources say it is unlikely a deal would be agreed to Sunday.

"The deadline is Thursday," Anthony said. "So obviously something has to happen, whether they trade me or I stay in Denver or whatever," Anthony said. "The end is here. All this stuff will be over with. I'm excited for this stuff to be over with, and I'm pretty sure everybody else is excited for it to be over with."

Anthony said he would "not be upset at all" if he were still with the Nuggets after the deadline.

A person familiar with the trade negotiations told Sunday that the Nuggets were still working through specifics with the Knicks and were pushing for New York to add Mozgov to the deal. Denver also hasn't shut the door on the Nets, with whom they have agreed to the framework of a trade, according to the source. But it appears that key figures in the organization have grown comfortable with the Knicks' offer, which was sweetened significantly after the Nets re-emerged in the discussions during All-Star weekend in Los Angeles.

As the Knicks' pursuit of Anthony reached a tipping point Sunday, the team released a joint statement from Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan, president Donnie Walsh, and coach Mike D'Antoni saying all three were in agreement on the Anthony discussions. In a rare and obscure step, the statement also asserted that "no one from outside our organization" was involved in the Anthony process -- an obvious reference to former team president Isiah Thomas, whose input Dolan has received since Thomas was replaced by Walsh in 2008.

With so many agendas and obfuscation attempts at play, it was difficult to predict Sunday how Denver would respond. But Nuggets executives have signaled that they want a resolution to the Anthony matter by the end of All-Star weekend -- a timetable that Anthony publicly stated that he favored, as well. 

Just as the Knicks' negotiating strategy was sidetracked by Dolan's decision to get involved in the negotiations and meet with Anthony Thursday night in Los Angeles, so have the Nuggets' efforts been influenced by agendas affecting their still complicated hierarchy. Sources say Denver's reluctance to deal with New York throughout the process was prompted more by a feeling among some segments of the team's power structure that they should not give Anthony what he wants -- the extension with the team of his choice. But sources also assert it will be difficult for Denver to turn down what could be the best offer they will receive for Anthony -- one that gives them a quality point guard, Felton, on a better contract than the Nets' Devin Harris; a young, promising frontcourt player, Chandler, who is more polished than New Jersey's Derrick Favors; a hard-nosed, floor-spacing shooter, Gallinari, instead of multiple first-round picks from New Jersey whose ultimate value is undetermined; and $20 million in immediate savings.

The Nuggets' basketball staff is said to have preferred the Nets' long-standing offer centered around Favors and multiple picks, which would set the team up for a long-term rebuilding process -- whereas the Knicks' offer provides assets better suited to a quicker turnaround after Anthony's departure. But the Nets' competing offer ran its course with Friday night's obligatory meeting between Anthony and New Jersey officials, which reported was allowed as a condition of Anthony receiving permission to meet with Dolan on Thursday.

Keeping Anthony beyond Thursday's trade deadline remains an option, though the likelihood of that has decreased dramatically, sources say. Denver is not seriously considering a nuclear option with Anthony, which would involve telling him the team will not trade him to new York and also won't give him the extension -- making New Jersey the only path to the money for Anthony. That option, sources say, would reflect poorly on the organization and could hinder its future dealings with players.


Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: February 20, 2011 8:27 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

This is a pretty lousy deal for NY if it holds up. I see the point. Melo wants the biggest contract possible and that's only possible if he's a Knick this season (vs. free agency over the summer), but if Melo and Amar'e are at max contracts this team will never get CP3 or be anything more than a slightly above average team.

The Heat 3 were able to pull it off because all three agreed to take millions less a year. It made them fit, with enough salary cap space for Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem. I'm not seeing that kind of sacrifice in NY. Amar'e already went for the largest sum available.

Since: Mar 18, 2009
Posted on: February 20, 2011 8:26 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

i think the nuggets gets more from a deal with the nets than say the knicks can give them, if they only add fields in and stick with felton as their starting pg it will give the knicks a good playoff team with melo and amare.The only thing that making this deal from not happening is the nuggets want young players. And a few more picks,because they want to rebuild their team Now that melo is leaving the Nuggets,and the knicks can't or stubborn to give in with their demands,so let wait and see what will unfold in this predicament.

Since: Dec 23, 2009
Posted on: February 20, 2011 8:21 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

I dont think he is being selfish(anymore than anyone would be that is).  He has honored his contract and let the Nuggets know what he wanted for next year.  He could have stringed them along for whole year like Lebron did.  He gave the Nuggets options.  If the average person wants to work somewhere and someone else wants them, he/she has that option.  Why doesnt Melo get that right?

Since: Feb 2, 2007
Posted on: February 20, 2011 8:13 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

Billups-Melo-Amare is a pretty solid contending team now, and the team will probably plan on dumping Billups and landing Paul/Williams/Howard later.

But dumping Gallinari? Seems drastic. He is a perfect fit for that D'Antonni offense.

Since: Apr 9, 2010
Posted on: February 20, 2011 8:09 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

Melo has said time and time again that he wants to go to NY. He is from there and I think he has a house there as well. If the Knicks wait a few more months, they can just sign him as a free agent and not give up anybody. Then they would have a dangerous team with Amare, Danilo, Mozgov, Fields, Felton, etc. I say just wait, keep what you have, and sign him this summer.

Since: Mar 30, 2007
Posted on: February 20, 2011 8:06 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

Can someone explain why the Timberwolves would even be interested in this at all?  I realize they would be taking a flyer on Randolph, but I would rather use the pick on a overseas project than Randolph.

Since: Jul 9, 2008
Posted on: February 20, 2011 7:52 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

All this media attention for one selfish player.  Welcome to Lebrongate 2. I see two names I know on here....The NBA is an atrocious product meant for urban audiences to promote selfish behavior and ball hog millionaires.  The game has completely changed and is spiraling downhill fast.  The current economy can't provide people who actually enjoy this product to go and pay for it, and those who can afford to go and pay for it are going to baseball and football. Hence the money won't be coming in for owners to pay these top line brats. Time to wrap it up boys.  Your lock-out is on it's way and the demise of this one on one shoot for all game is eminent.  The NCAA tournament is the only form of basketball left for anyone who enjoys the game, hopefully the NCAA doesn't screw up the exciting nature of their tournament.

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: February 20, 2011 7:41 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

Knicks will regret this trade.  Melo is not a great offensive player, not an all-around all-star nor someone capable of adjusting to all systems.  The Knicks are giving up too much, and the team that is starting to gell will fall apart.  Maybe if they land CP3 they'll make an eastern finals someday (as Boston ages and Orlando comes apart), but they'll never get past the Heat to get to a finals, let alone win a championship.

Since: Mar 9, 2009
Posted on: February 20, 2011 7:15 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

WIll everyone who cares stand up?? OK, no one is standing. Who cares. We can only hope there is a NBA lockout in 4 months and these spolied brats can go back to the streets and swing some crack.

Since: Aug 22, 2007
Posted on: February 20, 2011 6:57 pm

Knicks make final offer for Melo

My question is this, if you know Anthony wants to play in NYC and you can get him for free if you wait, why not low ball them even more then this.  It sickens me to think the Knicks would have to give up Danilo, Wilson and Raymond just to get Melo

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