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Source: Howard hasn't told Magic what he wants

Posted on: December 6, 2011 12:57 pm
Edited on: December 6, 2011 3:06 pm
 
Dwight Howard has not yet indicated to Orlando management whether he wants to stay with the Magic, request a trade or play out the season and become a free agent, a person directly involved in the organization's planning told CBSSports.com Tuesday.

"Training camp opens the door to everything," said the person, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "I think that will happen very, very soon."

The soap opera of whether Howard stays in Orlando or seeks a trade to the Lakers already has begun in full force, however, and there already has been a casualty. Team executives were apprised via email Tuesday morning that CEO Bob Vander Weide has stepped down and will be replaced by team president Alex Martins. In replacing Vander Weide, 53, whose departure is being characterized as a retirement, Martin's first order of business will be to represent the Magic on the NBA's Board of Governors, which is scheduled to vote on the new collective bargaining agreement Thursday in an electronic ballot.

UPDATE: Whether Vander Weide's departure has anything to do with the owners' labor relations committee -- of which Vander Weide was a member -- signing off on a deal that could actually expedite Howard's departure from Orlando is a matter worthy of consideration. The Magic scheduled a news conference for Wednesday to address Vander Weide's departure, but Vander Weide admitted Tuesday that he did, in fact, call Howard at 1 a.m. earlier this week after "a couple of glasses of wine" -- a conversation in which the executive reportedly urged the star to stay in Orlando.

The person familiar with the Magic's strategy said Tuesday that, while Howard has yet to verbalize what he wants, the All-Star center has "deep roots here" and has previously expressed that "this is where he'd like to fulfill his career."

"He wants to win," the person said. "That's on his mind intensely."

While Howard has never publicly expressed a desire to leave Orlando, it has been known among people in his inner circle for months that his preference is to play for the Lakers. The only way he's getting to that L.A. team would be via a trade, and the Lakers -- with Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom -- are one of the few teams in the league with enough assets to pull it off.

The new rules set to be approved by the players and owners this week have cut off some of the avenues for superstars looking to leave small markets for big markets -- but some of those rules actually increase the pressure on the home team to make a decision to trade such a player sooner than in the past. The extension Orlando can offer Howard -- same as New Orleans can offer Chris Paul -- falls short of what each could each get as an unrestricted free agent come July 1. And since they can no longer get maximum contract length and raises via a sign-and-trade, their teams don't have that avenue as a fallback option.

"I don't think he knows what he's going to do at this point," the person familiar with the Magic's strategy said. "I'm not sure anybody does. It's impossible to predict."

The overwhelming opinion in central Florida -- which in 1996 saw Shaquille O'Neal flee Orlando to sign with the Lakers as a free agent -- is for Howard to let his intentions be known sooner than later.

"Don't drag us out," the person said. "Tell us what you want, so we can react with facts, not theories and guesses."
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Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:46 pm
 

Source: Howard hasn't told Magic what he wants

Howard would be a fool as well as Paul to do anything but stay where they are, play out the short season and become free agents next year. What satisfaction or credit would either get going to another team and winning a Championship in a shortened lock out season? This season is scrap and the winner of the title this year will always have an astericks next to it. They stay put and then get to choose the team they want and get the money......it's a no brainer



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:41 pm
 

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oooowwhhh, everyone but kobe ia available from the laker roster for a trade for howard. well considering they are a 30 win team without kobe id say keepem id much rather take the nets deal

Really -- let's see, the Nets deal would certainly not include DWill, their best player, as the goal is to get DWill to stay to play with Howard.  So your Nets trade comes from the rest of the roster that won a whopping 24 games last year plus picks and/or cash.  The Lakers won 57 games last year, so under your theory, even without Kobe the Lakers are a better team than the Nets (although I think you are giving Kobe a lot more credit than he deserves for the team success last year).  The Laker trade would be, most likely, Bynum (one of the better Cs in the NBA with huge upside potential, Odom - can play 3 positions, 6th man of the year in 2009 and draft picks and/or cash).  Gee, I can have players from a team that won 57 games, went to the Western Conference finals and won the last two NBA titles -- players that would start for almost any team in the NBA, or players from a team that won 24 games.  Hard decision---not.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:32 pm
 

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You're crazy if the Magic would take Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol, and Lamar Odom. That is just not a good deal. Two past their primers and a knobbly kneed semi-star? If it's LA Dwight covets, you better bet he's going to the Clippers
First, it would not be all 3, LAL will not decimate their front court like that and Orlando will be looking for some youth too -- more likely something like Bynum, Odom and draft picks (which leaves LA with Howard at C and Gasol at his natural PF) and the Lakers taking back Turkolu's horrible contract to give Orlando cap relief.  Second, its not just LA that Howard covets, its WINNING.  You tell me which franchise has a proven committment to and success at winning -- the Clippers or the Lakers?  Which team has more prestige and a better track record of success with an owner who has proven he can and will do whatever it takes to win the championship -- Lakers again.  If, and its a big if, Howard ends up in LA its more likely with the Lakers than the Clippers.





Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:27 pm
 

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The NBA shouldn't even allow contracts where the players can nix a trade. They outta go where the owners tell them to go. That would shut them!
It is not that the player can nix a trade...Just like Utah trading D Will last year, Orlando can send Howard anywhere they want to and he has to go.  The problem is that no one is going to give decent value for Howard or Paul unless they already know they will sign an extension rather than leaving as a free agent on July 1.  If Orlando wants to trade Howard to Charlotte they can, but Charlotte won't give anything resembling "fair value" for the trade knowing that they were only renting him for 6 months or so Orlando would only be unnecessarily hurting themselves by making such a trade.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:21 pm
 

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This kind of man shows loyalty to those who have shown loyalty to him. This kind of man wins championships without the help of a more recognized NBA star (Kobe).
Really?  Show me any player who won a championship on a team with no other good players?  My guess is he doesnt exist.  Say what you want, but look at facts --  Russell was on loaded Celtic teams, Kareem won with Oscar Robertson and then with Magic/Worthy et al, Shaq did not win until paired with Kobe, Jordan had Pippen, Bird/McHale/Parrish, Nowitski and Kidd didn't win until paired together...the list goes on and on.  Then look at the great  players who tried to "go it alone" and never won.  "Loyalty" does not mean playing for less than what you can get somewhere else, "loyalty" does not mean you don't even consider switching teams--how many players, unltimately, are NBA teams loyal to --i.e how look at how many players actually start and finish their careers and retire with the same team versus how many get traded or released when they become "too expensive" or are "declining" or just because management thinks there is a better player out there (usually for less cost).  Like it or not, the NBA is a business for both player and owners -- the only "loyalty" that is owed by a player is to play as hard and as well as he possibly can while on a particular team.  Come contract time, all bets are off -- the team is under no obligation to "reward" the "loyal" player with a contract the team doesn't want to or cant afford and the player is under no obligation to resign for less money (or any amount of money) out of "loyalty".



Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:17 pm
 

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You have to GET RID OF THE SALARY CAP for individual players if you want them to stay in one place.  The Colts have no problem affording Peyton Manning.   Green Bay can pay Aaron Rodgers what he is worth.  New Orleans found the money to pay Drew Brees....  and all have won championships in small markets.  Funny how that works. 

All 3 make more than Chris Paul is going to make if he stays in New Orleans, and the Bucks and Pacers also lack the ability to pay to retain their talent, or to bring in new talent as was the case with Drew Brees. 

That is why I laugh - HA!! - at anyone who thinks the owners actually CARE about competitive balance in the NBA. 

BTW... I agree with Rocker and the other posters who are saying that a lot of fans are taking this way too personal.  Stay home for a few weeks from the games, don't buy the Season Pass from NBA-TV this year if  you want to show your protest.  But if you have stuck with hoops enough to post about it, you will be back. You are with us.... you have invested too much time to NOT watch Kobe go for #6.  You can be mad, but you won't be able to NOT WATCH and see if Lebron is who Nike says he is.  By mid-February, you will be sitting in front of the television like the rest of us trying to figure out how someone who pronounces "terrible" with 4 "U's" (love Chuck - he is good and tuuuribull) gets a paycheck for his words....  You'll be back.  What's the alternative - hockey?  With the changes in the wind related to concussions in NHL, that sport is dead in 5-10 years - tops. 




Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:10 pm
 

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I do hope so but still Lakers will not win the championship, they need a good point guard. ax walton, fisher, artest too...Lakers need to be overhauled.
Walton will be cut under the amnesty clause (if he doesn't retire because of his back).  Fisher will be back but the Lakers definately need to upgrade the PG spot -- Fisher may start but more and more minutes will be going to a younger, quicker player (assumng they find one this year).  As for Artest -- pretty inconsistent last year offensively but a good defender.  Its eash to say "ax him" but what is the plan for a replacement small forward?  You can't cut for the sake of cutting -- you have to have a viable upgrade in place.  Lakers won over 50 games last year, made the Western Conference finals with, essentially, the same roster that won the previous two NBA championships --- Lakers dont need to be "overhauled" but they do need upgrades to remain a contender (and a deal for Howard --surrendering Bynum, Odom, picks and maybe cash--would be a big upgrade) --namely defense at the PG position and an 3 point shooter to stretch the defense.




Since: Dec 6, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:05 pm
 

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please explain how the lakers big 3 are washed up and the nets players aren't?



Since: Dec 6, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:04 pm
 

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according to your theory, how many wins did the nets have WITH those trade pieces? around 30. sorry your point is mute



Since: Mar 21, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2011 5:57 pm
 

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I do hope so but still Lakers will not win the championship, they need a good point guard. ax walton, fisher, artest too...Lakers need to be overhauled.


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