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Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:38 pm
Edited on: December 6, 2011 10:32 pm
The Hornets began to seriously engage in trade discussions for superstar Chris Paul Tuesday, with the Celtics, Clippers, Warriors and Mavericks among the most serious suitors, sources told

UPDATE: The Clippers' opening salvo was an offer that included restricted free agent DeAndre Jordan and Minnesota's unprotected first-round pick, with L.A. hoping that the prospect of playing with electrifying forward Blake Griffin and the big stage of Los Angeles would be enticing enough to Paul that he would eventually commit to the team long term. Eric Gordon is not in the deal "at this time," a source said, though it is understood that any deal that would include a commitment from Paul would have to include the sharpshooting guard.

The details of offers surrounding talks with Dallas and Golden State weren't known, though Yahoo Sports reported that the Warriors' offer centered around Stephen Curry and rookie Klay Thompson. But the Celtics stepped forward with an offer that would not have to come with any commitment from Paul that he'd re-sign with Boston after the season. According to a person familiar with the discussions, the Celtics offered Rajon Rondo, two future first-round picks, and restricted free agent Jeff Green in a sign-and-trade for Paul.

The impetus behind the Celtics' potential rental offer for Paul was intriguing: Come to Boston, take a shot at winning a title with Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett while the window is still open, and then have enough room to entice Dwight Howard to come on board as an unrestricted free agent next summer. Garnett and Allen come off the books July 1, leaving the Celtics with only $30.4 million in committed salary for next season, when Howard can opt out of his contract with Orlando.

Though Paul has never expressed a desire to play in Boston, if he liked his new surroundings and the Celtics' chances of luring Howard, he would be in a championship-contending situation and could get his max deal of five years, $100 million six months after the trade.

Independent of the Paul situation, the Warriors are among the teams with the most serious interest in free-agent center Tyson Chandler, and the interest is mutual. Paul reportedly has let it be known that a team like the Warriors or Clippers signing Chandler, his former teammate in New Orleans, would enhance its chances of getting a long-term commitment from him -- a scenario confirmed by front office executives Tuesday.

The Hornets also are open to the idea of sending out free-agent power forward David West in a sign-and-trade, possibly as part of a trade package for Paul, sources said. It was New Orleans' interest in Jordan that prompted the Clippers to step forward Tuesday with a reported five-year, $40 million offer for their restricted free agent -- though a person close to Jordan said he is intent on remaining in L.A.

The Knicks also were said to be trying to engage New Orleans in conversations, given that Paul has long coveted the chance to join his friends Carmelo Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire in New York. But the best the Knicks can offer at the moment is Chauncey Billups' expiring $14 million contract, Landry Fields, Iman Shumpert and center Jerome Jordan, a solid prospect who has yet to play a minute in the NBA.

The "other" L.A. team, the Lakers, also have a strong hand in their efforts to try to land Paul, Howard, or in a dream world, both. The Lakers have no chance of clearing the cap space necessary to lure Paul next summer, so their best chance is their deep stockpile of assets, including Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom.

Hornets GM Dell Demps has indicated a strong desire to reach a swift resolution to the Paul drama and not allow it to linger for months the way the Nuggets were held hostage last season by the Anthony saga. Denver, of course, was able to get a better deal from the Knicks at the February trade deadline than would've been available before the season. But that was largely due to two key provisions that have been muted in the new collective bargaining agreement: the same length and dollars in an extend-and-trade that Anthony could've received had he simply resigned with Denver, and the fallback option of a sign-and-trade.

Paul can get only one year added to his contract in an extend-and-trade, and he'd get the same money via a sign-and-trade next summer that he would get simply by leaving outright as a free agent for a team with room: four years and approximately $74 million, as opposed to the five-year, $100 million deal New Orleans could offer he he played out the season. Paul also could get a five-year max deal from a new team following a six-month window from the date he was traded.

But front office executives who've been in touch with Demps say that New Orleans has no appetite for a protracted and potentially ugly trade saga with Paul. Yahoo Sports reported that Demps may push for final offers and a resolution by the time training camps and free agency open Friday.


Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 4:29 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

How does a 5ppg 40%ft guy make any deal good? I really hadnt heard of the guy before this trade talk started now it may or may not include DeAndre Jordan, and when your talking Chris Paul trade that isnt the type of name or numbers your thinking when talkin trade bait. Just like the Lakers being reluctant to deal Bynum for Howard, the guy is too young to have the type of injuries he has suffered and the rest of his career will be affected by it. If Im L A Id deal anyone but Kobe and that includes Lamar Kardashian, Id love to see that family squirm with Lamar outta the city, even though it may unfortunatly create a spin-off. But Kobe doesnt have many years left and they need to capitalize on him now while they can.

Since: Nov 30, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 2:25 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

In my opinion, CP3 hasnt looked the same as he did 4 years ago. He seems to be on the decline. I wouldnt give up young talent for a guy who is injury prone. Bad move for the Clippers

Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:04 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks


Thank you.  All of this is pure speculation, most likely based on leading questions.  And, as we are learning with some of the ESPN football guys, it's purely fabricated.  

Nothing can be done until Friday, so stop speculating and report on the conditioning of players who are showing up, stories about games this seasn, etc.  Not speculation.   Modern "journalism" has turned into a joke, with the "experts" like Berger leading the charge towards even more lack of credibility.  

Since: Feb 5, 2009
Posted on: December 7, 2011 12:37 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

I just don't know why so many teams are willing to give up that much for CP3.  His numbers are declining and his knees are bad.  Plus, he's never won anything.  I just can't believe Boston would be willing to give up Rondo and 2 1st rounders and more for a rent a CP3 deal.  What idiots.  But then again, that's just one less team for the Bulls to go through in winning a championship.  I also think Howard's agent is doing a bad job in allowing bidding for CP3 to proceed before Howard.  Howard is worth more and several of the teams that are vying for CP3 also would want Howard, but won't have anything to deal if they mortgage the future for CP3.  I suppose those teams think they will use CP3 as a lure for Howard, but those 2 alone won't come close to winning a championship.

Since: May 15, 2007
Posted on: December 7, 2011 11:08 am

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

Ya know as a Hornets fan when this first started I didnt like the idea of Paul leaving. If Hornets had a good owner like Cuban then they wouldnt be in this mess. But the more and more I keep hearing talks about Paul wanting to leave, I say fuck him, let him leave. For a guy who just "loves" New Orleans he sure the hell wants to get out of it as fast as possible.
Well, clearly Paul wants to leave, or they'd be having contract extension talks rather than trade discussions. But I don't think he's necessarily the one behind all of this trade hoopla. I mean, he only has a season left on his deal; there's no urgency for him. Rather, I think that it's the team that's creating all of this pressure to make a trade, because they want to obtain assets for Paul rather than let him leave. Paul's been pretty respectful during this whole process.

Since: Feb 20, 2008
Posted on: December 7, 2011 8:22 am

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

Yesterday I read on CBS that the mavs were planning on moving parts to land dwill next apparantly they want cp3.....all this is speculation....not even really interesting unless something shocking  happens......if cp3 goes to mavs then cbs should apologize for the entire article yesterday about dwill.......write the stuff when you have credible information....not a bunch of twitter heads spreading rumors.......DO SOME REPORTING PLEASE!!!

Since: Nov 20, 2008
Posted on: December 7, 2011 8:14 am

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

All this FA frenzy shit is doing is giving a spotlight to players from 1000's of people who normaly wouldn't trust them to walk their dogs or clean their pools unsupervised so it's no wonder they drag it out. Chris Paul couldn't qualify to get a school bus driving permit and we have to hear day after day what he wants and where he wants to play. Who cares.    

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: December 7, 2011 3:41 am

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

How could the Mavs be in any trade talks? The only player they have under contract that any team would be willing to take in a major trade for is Dirk.

They have no players anyone would take for a top rated player like Paul.

The whole team is over 30 and past their best years. Mavericks have nothing for any team to build a future power with. Only vets that may want to try to win as underdogs again. And without Chandler, the odds of a repeat by the Mavs would double.

Only offer that makes as little sense is what Berger says the Knicks could maybe offer, which is a joke.

Sure, both teams would love to have him. Almost every team in the NBA would. But being able to trade for him is outside of most teams talent level and far beyond what Dallas and New York have to spare.

So you have to think both tales of NY and Dallas trying to trade for Paul as make believe from writers in both cities. Really, these are stories from a dream world.

Since: Dec 7, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 2:24 am

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

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Since: Jul 29, 2010
Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:53 am

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

Im calling it right now- Ken Berger and a host of other Media writers are gonna write about Chris Paul (and Dwight Howard) going to 6 more new teams before the friday Free Agent signing frenzy begins... Hell, if I were on salary like these Drama addicts, I'd write about 12 more teams before Friday!! Put it on ice Daily Reporters and dream up another team that Farve is gonna play for by christmas!!

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