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Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

Posted on: December 6, 2011 6:38 pm
Edited on: December 6, 2011 10:32 pm
The Hornets began to seriously engage in trade discussions for superstar Chris Paul Tuesday, with the Celtics, Clippers, Warriors and Mavericks among the most serious suitors, sources told

UPDATE: The Clippers' opening salvo was an offer that included restricted free agent DeAndre Jordan and Minnesota's unprotected first-round pick, with L.A. hoping that the prospect of playing with electrifying forward Blake Griffin and the big stage of Los Angeles would be enticing enough to Paul that he would eventually commit to the team long term. Eric Gordon is not in the deal "at this time," a source said, though it is understood that any deal that would include a commitment from Paul would have to include the sharpshooting guard.

The details of offers surrounding talks with Dallas and Golden State weren't known, though Yahoo Sports reported that the Warriors' offer centered around Stephen Curry and rookie Klay Thompson. But the Celtics stepped forward with an offer that would not have to come with any commitment from Paul that he'd re-sign with Boston after the season. According to a person familiar with the discussions, the Celtics offered Rajon Rondo, two future first-round picks, and restricted free agent Jeff Green in a sign-and-trade for Paul.

The impetus behind the Celtics' potential rental offer for Paul was intriguing: Come to Boston, take a shot at winning a title with Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett while the window is still open, and then have enough room to entice Dwight Howard to come on board as an unrestricted free agent next summer. Garnett and Allen come off the books July 1, leaving the Celtics with only $30.4 million in committed salary for next season, when Howard can opt out of his contract with Orlando.

Though Paul has never expressed a desire to play in Boston, if he liked his new surroundings and the Celtics' chances of luring Howard, he would be in a championship-contending situation and could get his max deal of five years, $100 million six months after the trade.

Independent of the Paul situation, the Warriors are among the teams with the most serious interest in free-agent center Tyson Chandler, and the interest is mutual. Paul reportedly has let it be known that a team like the Warriors or Clippers signing Chandler, his former teammate in New Orleans, would enhance its chances of getting a long-term commitment from him -- a scenario confirmed by front office executives Tuesday.

The Hornets also are open to the idea of sending out free-agent power forward David West in a sign-and-trade, possibly as part of a trade package for Paul, sources said. It was New Orleans' interest in Jordan that prompted the Clippers to step forward Tuesday with a reported five-year, $40 million offer for their restricted free agent -- though a person close to Jordan said he is intent on remaining in L.A.

The Knicks also were said to be trying to engage New Orleans in conversations, given that Paul has long coveted the chance to join his friends Carmelo Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire in New York. But the best the Knicks can offer at the moment is Chauncey Billups' expiring $14 million contract, Landry Fields, Iman Shumpert and center Jerome Jordan, a solid prospect who has yet to play a minute in the NBA.

The "other" L.A. team, the Lakers, also have a strong hand in their efforts to try to land Paul, Howard, or in a dream world, both. The Lakers have no chance of clearing the cap space necessary to lure Paul next summer, so their best chance is their deep stockpile of assets, including Andrew Bynum, Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom.

Hornets GM Dell Demps has indicated a strong desire to reach a swift resolution to the Paul drama and not allow it to linger for months the way the Nuggets were held hostage last season by the Anthony saga. Denver, of course, was able to get a better deal from the Knicks at the February trade deadline than would've been available before the season. But that was largely due to two key provisions that have been muted in the new collective bargaining agreement: the same length and dollars in an extend-and-trade that Anthony could've received had he simply resigned with Denver, and the fallback option of a sign-and-trade.

Paul can get only one year added to his contract in an extend-and-trade, and he'd get the same money via a sign-and-trade next summer that he would get simply by leaving outright as a free agent for a team with room: four years and approximately $74 million, as opposed to the five-year, $100 million deal New Orleans could offer he he played out the season. Paul also could get a five-year max deal from a new team following a six-month window from the date he was traded.

But front office executives who've been in touch with Demps say that New Orleans has no appetite for a protracted and potentially ugly trade saga with Paul. Yahoo Sports reported that Demps may push for final offers and a resolution by the time training camps and free agency open Friday.


Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: December 7, 2011 12:25 am

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

Ya know as a Hornets fan when this first started I didnt like the idea of Paul leaving. If Hornets had a good owner like Cuban then they wouldnt be in this mess. But the more and more I keep hearing talks about Paul wanting to leave, I say fuck him, let him leave. For a guy who just "loves" New Orleans he sure the hell wants to get out of it as fast as possible.

I will laugh my ass off the day the Hornets finally get a good owner, make the moves needed to get great players, and shove it up Paul's ass on the chance he missed. These greedy ass fucks want to play with other greedy ass fucks? Fine. Heat show how well it worked when 3 egos joined a team and a TEAM like the Mavs beat their ass.

Fuck Paul.

Since: Feb 6, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 11:56 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

This is definitely a Berger Tale - I've got better sources than this guy!!!
Hornets engaged in serious CP3 Talks - about as serious as the Owners were in lockout negotiations.
CP3 is going to play it out and he should because he wants to determine his own future not the hapless Hornets!!!
The Lakers, Warriors, Clippers nor Celts don't stand a chance!! He will be a Knick in 2013!!!
What did you think the Knicks threw $14M down the toilet to Chauncey Billups for -  window dressing!!!
All pontiffs, experts and prognosticators couldn't predict what they're eating for lunch!!!

Since: Jun 26, 2009
Posted on: December 6, 2011 11:45 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

big news flash... lmfao who wouldnt want paul probably the whole nba sans the bulls... im sick of these articles same with dwight howard

Since: May 10, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2011 11:22 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

Here goes Berger again...this time with CP...last year he did the same thing with Melo for months and months....We call it Bergertales

Since: Sep 17, 2006
Posted on: December 6, 2011 11:08 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

That is changing because of Blake Griffin, who is an emerging superstar...a few players around him and the Clippers will be very relevant in this league...

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: December 6, 2011 11:03 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

Paul is NOT going to play for The Clippers. This isn't seriously even on his radar. They don't play in the Lakers shadow.. it's called a "black hole" that sucks the life out of you.

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:47 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

I keep reading and hearing that the Warriors are one of two teams the Hornets want to deal with. If the Warriors make the trade I hope they get rid of Monte Ellis. The guy has not been the same after his bicycle mishap.

Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:45 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

gordon for CP3 would be a steal for the Clipps

Since: Dec 6, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:28 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

Berger, you bring in 2 sign and trade suggestions. From my understanding sign and trades can not be used if a player is signed using Bird rights. That would mean the 5 year offer the Clipper just gave to Jordan wouldn't be valad. Why would any player sign a 4 year contract with 4.5% raises only to be traded when they can sign outright for that to the team of their choice.
Sign and trades using shorter 4 year non-Bird contracts are still allowed but I think the CBA changes make the days of sign and trades history. 

Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: December 6, 2011 10:04 pm

Hornets engaged in serious CP3 talks

This Berger guy has no idea what he is talking about. The Clips offer Gordon for CP3??? That doesn't even makes sense from the Clippers standpoint and has already been shot down as false. The Clips aren't and will not offer Gordon in a trade for Paul.

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