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Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead'

Posted on: December 8, 2011 7:23 pm
Edited on: December 8, 2011 10:20 pm
The Lakers agreed to the framework of a deal to acquire star point guard Chris Paul Thursday, only to have the trade imperiled amid an uproar from owners disgusted with the fruits of a new collective bargaining agreement, an ownership source confirmed to

"Dead," is how the person described the deal, which was supposed to send Paul to L.A. in a three-team trade also involving the Houston Rockets.

Yahoo Sports and first reported the incomprehensible developments, and team executives who had been on the periphery of the Paul trade talks were unsure if the deal had been killed by the league office or had merely hit a snag. 

Either way, the hours after players and owners voted to approve a new CBA ending the five-month lockout will go down as among the most bizarre in NBA history.

"WoW," Paul tweeted upon learning of reports that his trade to the Lakers was on the verge of being nixed.

Yahoo reported that owners were "irate" with Stern in Thursday's Board of Governors meeting, challenging the commissioner for the business-as-usual rampage of big-market teams preying on stars before the deal was even ratified -- and before the league had even officially re-opened for business, which is supposed to happen at 2 p.m. ET Friday.

"Pathetic," one team executive said Thursday in response to developments that included the Knicks maneuvering for cap space in preparation for signing top free agent Tyson Chandler and then the Paul deal to L.A.

NBA spokesman Tim Frank said it was "not true" that owners killed the deal. "It wasn't even discussed at the board meeting," he said. "The league office declined to make the trade for basketball reasons."

The developments were "unbelievable," said another team executive, given that the league-owned Hornets had been allowed to conduct basketball business without interference from the league office since the other 29 owners assumed temporary ownership of the woebegone franchise in December 2010. Also, the league office technically was not supposed to be open to evaluate, approve or disapprove trades until Friday.

The trade was supposed to send Paul to Los Angeles and Pau Gasol from the Lakers to the Rockets, who would've sent Luis Scola, Kevin Martin, Goran Dragic and a first-round pick to the Hornets. New Orleans also would've received Lamar Odom from the Lakers. While rival executives were stunned with how rapidly Hornets GM Dell Demps moved to rid the franchise of Paul, who has clamored privately and through back channels for more than a year to exit New Orleans, some nonetheless were impressed with the haul of players and picks the Hornets were able to obtain for a trade that essentially was done on a firesale basis. 

Demps, a former Spurs executive groomed by San Antonio GM R.C. Buford, had taken a proactive approach to the Paul dilemma and indicated to fellow execs in recent days that he had no intention of letting the saga drag out for months the way the Nuggets were embroiled in a similar controversy with Carmelo Anthony before trading him to the Knicks last season.

Now, the Hornets appear to be destined for even more drama, discontent and derangement than they ever imagined. 

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Since: Sep 13, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:07 am

Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead'

Since 2004
San Antonio
Los Angeles

That is 6 teams in 8 years.

Since: Nov 11, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:04 am

Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead'

Correct me if i'm wrong.  If the league does not allow the Chris Paul trade to occur prior to the end of the season then Chris Paul is free to sign with any team without compensation.  Correct?  Now the Lakers get back Gasol and Odom to use as bait for Howard.

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:04 am

Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead' The Lakers I hate with a passion. I won't hide it. But to nix this trade made no sense.  The reason to nix the trade was "The Lakers would have too much star-power"?  But it's ok for Fake-King Lebron to leave Cleveland and join Wade and No-spine Bosh in Miami???  Inconsistent.  And I'm a Knicks fan!  As much as I would loooove to see Chris Paul in a Knicks jersey, the Lakers shouldn't have been denied that three way.  Good job, David Stern (that was a sarcastic statement for those keeping score).

The Lebron joining Bosh and Wade in Miami happened during the last CBA so you're not making any sense at all.  The new rules of the CBA are supposed to PREVENT crap like this from happening.  You're only backing the Lakers because you are a Knicks fan, a fan of a team in a massive market that's going to try to get in on trades like this for years to come.

Good for Stern.... hopefully he denies the next Paul trade to LA as well.....  

Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:03 am

Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead'

I saw this on hoops hype: 

Adrian Wojnarowski:  Twitter

I don't think the deal being nixed was about it being unfair for the Lakers and that the Lakers wern't giving up enough. I think it's more of a power statement by Stern and the league office who were probably trying to send a message to star players like Chris Paul who try to dictate where they'll end up playing that they (the players) do not run the league. I mean the Celtics were offering Rajon Rondo, you have to admit that that's a way better option than Lamar Odom. A number of teams were trying to get a deal done, and likely offering more than Lamar Odom in return. One of the main assurances for owners in the new collective bargaining agreement was that it would be harder for future players to pull a Dewayne Wade, Lebron James, Chris Bosh move or even a Carmelo Anthony and Amare Stoudemire move (heck let's go even older and say a Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen) and assemble a large number of stars on one team to make easier runs at championships, and thus taking away from the competitiveness and overall parody of the league. Both on the court and financially for that matter.

That being said, while the Lakers were definitely giving up enough (especailly since their assets are aged and limited, and one could argue they should hold onto as much as they can to continue to compete for a championship this year, unless of course they could get both CP3 and Dwight Howard, then heck sell the farm) the trade didn't make any since from the Rockets standpoint. When I saw it I questioned why Houston was even invovled and if their owner and front office decided to be really tight-waded for the next decade and not compete. I won't argue that Pau Gasol is one of the best big men in the game and a perineal talent, but one has to admit he's on the last leg of his career (as far as being a perinal talent goes). Plus even though he's an all-star, he's more of a compliment. He won championships in LA with Kobe Bryant, but when he was younger and had to carry a team in Memphis, his team stunk. Houston would be giving up arguably their two biggest offensive threats in Luis Scola and Kevin Martin, as well as a first round pick just to get Gasol? Arguably (if going by current talent on individual teams) that's more than the Lakers were giving up to get CP3, seeing as they'd be giving up their 2nd and 3rd or 4th (depends on your opinion on Artest v. Odom) best scorers to get CP3, rather than their 1st and 2nd. It's a given and equal counter-argument of course, that the Lakers have more talent so what does it matter? Even still with Gasol being their main threat the Rockets probably would have faired just as bad, if not far worse than those old Vancouver and Memphis teams did in Gasol's early days. In other words, if the entire weight of the teams success was soley on Gasol's shoulders, the Rockets would almost certainly be a Western Conference bottom feeder. Let's be real, Gasol is no Dirk Nowitzki. It wouldn't be Gasol's fault, he'd just be surrounded with nothing except Kyle Lowry and no future first-round pick on the way to help out. With both Martin and Scola, along with Lowry distributing them the ball, the Rockets can at least be in the conversation for one of the final playoff spots, but if their not and that future first-rounder ends up being a lottery pick used on a guy like Harrison Barnes or Terrence Jones, who knows what the future could hold for the franchise. Believe me, if there's one draft you don't want to miss out on a lottery pick in, it's this one! That's why the trade seemed so fair for the Lakers and Hornets. The Lakers would have received a star and leader now and after Kobe, and the Hornets would have got a piece (and a good one at that) in Lamar Odom, as well as a surefire lottery-pick from what was sure to be an abismal Houston team with no talent other than Gasol and Lowry. They then could have used that pick on any number of studs in the upcomng draft and had the new face of the franchise to replace Chris Paul. Houston, however, would have been destroyed from a competitive standpoint by the trade.

In closing it was a great trade for the Lakers, a really good trade for the Hornets, but a really bad and senseless trade for the Rockets. As far as Houston goes though, one could argue that sometimes greedy owners make horrible trades for financial reasons, especially during obvious periods of rebuilding. It's unfortunate for Laker fans that it didn't work out, but I don't think it was because they weren't offering enough. Stern and the league office wanted to send a message and remind everyone who was boss. I hope for Laker fans' sake, you guys still find some way to get this guy, because let's be honest whether you love em or hate em, the league's better and more popular when the Lakers are good (unless of course Michael Jordon's playing... then no matter what the league's better and more popular) but I also hope free agents or free-agents-to-be egos like Chris Paul and Derron Williams were taken down a peg by this trade's cancellation and that the Lebron James plague sweeping through the NBA, otherwise known as the - I'm taking my talents to South Beach syndrom, will start to come to an end, be a thing of the past, and find its selfish way out of the league.

Since: Sep 13, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:02 am

Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead'

This is a terrible decision for the league to make. It killed a deal that would have landed the Hornets 4 quality players and a draft pick. Instead they will end up either trading him in a firesale for pennies on the dollar with in a few months or he leaves and they get nothing in free agency next year.

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:01 am

Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead'

Loser teams with loser front offices want to blame anybody but themselves for their problems. This hate by the small market teams for the big market teams is starting to tear this league apart. 

Go ahead and spin it any way you want but the bottom line is out of the top 4 major sports in North America basketball is the least competitive of all.  There have been something like a whopping 3 cities that have celebrated championships since the 2000 season in the NBA, that's really pathetic.  In the other 3 major sports 9 cities have celebrated championships since the year 2000 in each sport. 

Unless you're a fan of the Lakers or the Spurs or the Mavericks you haven't had anything to cheer for in a long long time.  For those of you that believe it's healthy for a league to operate like this good for you, believe what you want to believe, that's your right.  But the bottom line is people are losing interest in the NBA and that's not going to change if they're allowing trades like this to go through. Sadly I must say though I still believe this Paul trade will eventually happen..... only because loopholes will allow it to happen.

There was just a lockout, and all the league talked about was how limiting movement and hurting players in some cases financially that want to move to a big market team is going to help small market teams, yet the ink is barely dry on the new CBA and they announce a Paul to LA trade?

Give me a break.... that's the biggest joke ever.  

Since: Dec 16, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 1:00 am

Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead'


I think the difference is that Lebron was a free agent and in this case, Paul, I'm pretty sure, is still under contract with the Hornets for this year. To your point, though, Bosh was allowed to join the Heat in the trade.

Since: Jul 14, 2010
Posted on: December 9, 2011 12:59 am

Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead'

Wow....thats all I can say I guess the owners cant make decisions for themselves these days they need david stern and the NBA to make decisions for them....the NBA is turning into a dictatorship for David Stern...If all three teams agreed to the deal then I dont see what the problem is....I think that the hornets and Lakers are getting a good deal but Im not sure about the Rockets it seems a bit much for them to give up Martin and Scola for Pau Gasol but at any rate they agreed to it.....Im not a fan of any of the teams involved but this just makes me sick that the NBA is going intervene and veto this trade.....They have no right getting involved in this trade or any other trade/transaction...Let the owners do what they want!!!

Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2011 12:58 am

Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead'

And lost in this story is execs. calling the Knicks "pathetic" for wanting to have some cap space to sign Chandler. I mean, I thought that Donnie Walsh worked for a few years to fix the mess previous people left for him, by clearing cap space and getting rid of awful contracts? If the Knicks want to give a one trick pony 17-22 million as he was reportedly looking for, then so be it. Let them sign a stupid deal that will almost guarantee they don't sign anyone else for years to come. 

Since: Jul 6, 2009
Posted on: December 9, 2011 12:52 am

Source: Paul trade to Lakers 'dead' The Lakers I hate with a passion. I won't hide it. But to nix this trade made no sense.  The reason to nix the trade was "The Lakers would have too much star-power"?  But it's ok for Fake-King Lebron to leave Cleveland and join Wade and No-spine Bosh in Miami???  Inconsistent.  And I'm a Knicks fan!  As much as I would loooove to see Chris Paul in a Knicks jersey, the Lakers shouldn't have been denied that three way.  Good job, David Stern (that was a sarcastic statement for those keeping score).

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