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CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

Posted on: December 14, 2011 12:02 am
Edited on: December 14, 2011 11:59 am
So now we know why the Magic never filed those tampering charges against the Nets.

For one thing, the latest developments in the Chris Paul saga point to New Jersey (i.e. Brooklyn) moving into prime position to land All-Star center Dwight Howard in a trade -- if Orlando decides to go that route.

Or so the Nets hope.

The Lakers re-entered the Paul trade talks Tuesday night, and would need a third team to funnel the young prospects to New Orleans along with Pau Gasol in return for the gifted point guard. Clippers brass were unfazed by these developments, sources told, having expected that the Lakers would re-enter the talks at some point -- either for real or for leverage purposes.

UPDATE: The re-emergence of the Lakers, who had a three-team trade for Paul also involving Houston fall through when league executives deemed it too expensive and not yielding enough young talent for New Orleans, combined with other factors Tuesday to signal that the Nets' pursuit of Howard was about to reach a new level of urgency. One of those factors was free-agent big man Nene, one of the Nets' top free-agent targets, agreeing to a five-year, $67 million deal to stay in Denver.

If the Lakers sent Gasol to New Orleans for Paul, they presumably could not find enough talent elsewhere to include in a separate deal for Howard as well -- although the Los Angeles Times reported that Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak was engaged in conversations about both Paul and Howard. The Mavericks, the third team on Howard's list of preferred trade destinations, continued to dutifully clear 2012 cap space Tuesday, an effort sources say is geared toward a possible run at Howard if he gets to free agency or Texan Deron Williams if he is not persuaded to stay with the Nets when the team moves to Brooklyn in 2012.

League sources confirmed that talks between the Nets and Magic gained momentum in recent days and that New Jersey was working on a complicated set of scenarios to land Howard that could involve one or two other teams. The Nets are "pushing hard," a source said, but the biggest hurdle was uncertainty over whether the Magic are ready to give up on trying to persuade Howard to stay in Orlando.

A person familiar with the discussions described them as "very complicated," and two other people confirmed that one scenario would loop in the Trail Blazers as a third team to provide swingman Gerald Wallace as a second primary piece along with Nets center Brook Lopez in a package for Howard. As part of the deal, New Jersey also would have to take back Hedo Turkoglu and the $34 million left on his contract.

UPDATE: A league source told that the Magic are "not in a rush to do anything," and that the team's first priority is to keep Howard. The scenario as currently constructed with Wallace joining Lopez in Orlando as the primary pieces is not enough to persuade the organization to move forward with the deal quickly, the person said.

"If people think things are imminent, then they're being led down the wrong path," the person said.

The organization is determined, however, to avoid another Shaq scenario -- when Shaquille O'Neal left Orlando as a free agent in 1996 and the team got nothing in return. If the only option is to trade Howard, sources said the team will be take its time to find the right deal. GM Otis Smith will not, and has not, limited himself to exploring deals with the three teams Howard has signaled he's willing to sign a long-term deal with -- the Nets, Lakers and Mavericks, sources said.

Though it isn't certain yet whether the Magic are ready to go through with a deal parting with Howard, Orlando seems to be seeking some elements of the kind of package New Jersey worked for months to assemble for Denver last season in its pursuit of Carmelo Anthony: a combination of established players, prospects and draft picks. Given Howard's stature and the stakes for both teams, this package will have to be substantially more valuable -- and thus, more difficult to assemble.

Which brings us back to those tampering charges that never materialized.

The Magic last week were weighing the possibility of filing a tampering charge against the Nets over a reported meeting in Miami involving Howard and Nets officials. The alleged meeting occurred before Smith gave Howard's agent, Dan Fegan, permission to speak with the Nets, Lakers and Mavericks about a possible trade. A league source told Tuesday that the potential tampering charges are "on the back burner" while the team weighs its options. Knowing that the Nets may turn out to be the best trade partner, the Magic were reluctant to burn that bridge before the negotiations even got off the ground, sources said.

A lot is in flux in the Magic front office, with team president Alex Martins taking over as CEO for the departed Bob Vander Weide, and now the brass are trying to evaluate what is the best option for dealing with the Howard situation, sources said. 

"There's going to be a little bit of a bidding process if anybody wants him," an executive within the league said Tuesday.

The Nets' pursuit of Howard is tied to their acquisition of Williams from the Jazz last season, and now is inexorably linked to the Paul talks, which are perhaps the most complicated trade negotiation in NBA history. League executives Joel Litvin and Stu Jackson, acting on behalf of the 29 owners who have custody of the franchise, are running the talks for the Hornets. After being declared dead Monday, negotiations between the Clippers and league office reignited later that evening and continued Tuesday -- with the Clippers waiting for the price for Paul to come down since they were the only team bidding for him. 

The Clippers' successful waiver claim of veteran point guard Chauncey Billups undoubtedly helped that effort, as Clippers GM Neil Olshey was then free to include point guard Eric Bledsoe in the deal. But Olshey was still unwilling to part with both sharpshooter Eric Gordon and the Timberwolves' unprotected 2012 first-round pick, and that was primarily the reason no conclusion was reached Tuesday, sources said. 

The best the Nets can offer for Howard is Lopez, a less accomplished but more durableversion of the Lakers' Andrew Bynum, plus multiple first-round picks and a signed-and-traded Kris Humphries. But the Nets have been exploring ways to bring in a third or even fourth team that could convey more assets to Orlando, and New Jersey GM Billy King has signaled to associates that such a maneuver won't be a problem. King has proved to be one of the most adept executives in the league at assembling complicated, multi-team deals.

Since: Jul 22, 2010
Posted on: December 14, 2011 1:27 pm

CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

If players really wanted to win titles they would come to Chicago.  The Bulls have one of the most unselfish and humble superstars in teh game and he's 22.  For everyone else its all about $$$$$$$$$$$.  Go to NJ Howard and enjoy that second round bounce.

Since: Feb 1, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2011 1:08 pm

CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

Allow me to save you reporters a lot of time.  This kind of chatter is going to go on for months, but Orlando isn't trading Howard, regardless of the deal, until much later.  First of all, they have absolutely no reason to trade until the trade deadline, and even then, they may just wait until July and do a sign-and-trade, which Howard will prefer because he gets more money that way than just signing as a free agent.  Either way, no deal is happening for months.  The Magic will try to compete with Howard for one more year, with the hopes that maybe they can swing a deal to keep him in Orlando.  Snooze...

Since: Mar 4, 2008
Posted on: December 14, 2011 12:13 pm

CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

Al must have received his evaluation skills from all those years watching Elgin Baylor.

Since: Dec 10, 2010
Posted on: December 14, 2011 12:07 pm

CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

What has DRose won that Howard hasn't?

Since: Nov 30, 2011
Posted on: December 14, 2011 11:30 am

CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

As I said before......
It's about Dwight Howard when you talk about basketball and Howard
NOT about WINNING......
I don't think he wants to be on a team with a BIGGER STAR than him
D ROSE is bigger at this time and the foreseeable future.....

Since: Nov 30, 2011
Posted on: December 14, 2011 11:27 am

CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

I guess MVP
means nothing......

Since: Feb 20, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2011 11:16 am

CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

Howard's best chance to win multiple titles is in Chicago.  What does NJ offer that Chicago can't?  Kobe is getting old, still great, but getting up there and the Dallas roster is aging.  I don't know if it comes down to him being the man - in NJ yes, LA or Dallas- No, Kobe is the man and Dirk is his counterpart.  D Rose is one of the most unassuming players in the league and one of its harest workers, he would gladly let Howard take the spotlight,

I don't get it Dwight - the fans would love you, the city would love you and probably most important for most NBA players Addidas will love you in a Chicago market.

Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2011 11:14 am

CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

Hey Magic. Youve never won a championship. Youve have a shot to do so this season (albeit a small one). Geting Lopez and Wallace will make you a 30 win team. Unless the picks you get are lottery gaurnateed (which theyre not) This deal would be STUPID for you to do. Go after Rip Hamilton, and make the best run you can this season. Next year you'll suck and be garuanteed a lottery pick.
I'd Rather have a shot than no shot at all and none in the foreseeable future. Maybe Turk will actually show up in shape and play like man, if so, Magic definetly have a legitaimate shot.
Maybe, just maybe, if you keep Howard and at least make it to finals, He'll strongly consider staying. Remember the only reason you have Howard is because you sucked to get him. Never aspire to be mediocre.

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2011 11:12 am

CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

Did Al Valkenheiser specifically sign up (Dec 13, 2011) just to prove that he knows absolutely nothing about basketball? It appears so. The Bulls starting shooting guard last year was Keith Bogans. Noah and Boozer combined to miss over 60 games. Rose was in his third year in the league. Depsite all that, the team won 62 games, went to the Conference Finals and had a chance to win every game against the Heat. If there is one idiot that would take Rondo "every day of the week and twice on Sunday," then so be it. But no one else would.

Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2011 11:03 am

CP3 developments push Nets' pursuit of Howard

Orlando are stuck between a rock and a hard place. If they try to keep Howard, they just don't have the cap space and trade chips to build a championship team around him. They made too many bad contrzct decisions and now must pay for it. Thus they have no chance of retaining Howard. If they wait it out with the false hope that somehow Hedo will start earning his money, they will get little or nothing for Howard.

If however they make sure Hedo's bad contract goes with Howard and they pick up some young talent and draft picks, at least they will have gotten out from underneath the mess that they are currently under.

I think Lopez, Gerald Wallace and draft picks is a pretty good deal and they should take a week to seriously consider it. That week will give Lakers and Dallas some time to present counter offers and Orlando will lose their star but come out of this with some pretty decent pieces.

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