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Cut the ACC some slack - for now

Posted on: September 6, 2009 2:56 am
 

Ok, everyone is getting a good laugh in at the ACC. I don't blaim anyone for doing so, there have been some really sad performances so far for the conference.

But let's be realistic about things. The ACC still has a chance to make some BCS noise, because the two rosters with BCS level talent havn't played yet.

First off, nobody ever really thought Wake, Duke, Virginia, Maryland, etc were doing anything this year. The bottom of the ACC is terrible, this is very true. Any team with athletes can beat them, and teams without athletes can beat them too. They stink. I laugh at them too.

UNC, GT, BC and Clemson, all probable bowl teams, won. But I don't mind if you laugh at them. An honest look at their roster should show you that they do not have what it takes this year to compete with a real BCS powerhouse team. If they end up winning the ACC, the ACC will probably get smacked in a BCS game, and is deserving of your laughter.

The "experts" thought that VT was the standard bearer of the ACC. Frankly, if that is true, the ACC is in serious trouble, any year that VT is the best team in the ACC, the ACC stinks compared to the rest of the conferences.

VT is now 2-40 all time vs. top 8 teams after tonight, and don't let the score fool you, Alabama took them to the woodshed tonight, to the tune of about 500 to 150 in total yards. VT never wins the big game, ever. VT is never a serious national title contender, they never beat the best teams in the nation (well, twice in fourty-two tries, but that's pretty much never), because they don't get the recruits to beat the best teams. Like it or not, you need talent to win in college football today. VT doesn't bring it in. 1 five star player every 2 years doesn't cut it.

There are two rosters in the ACC that have the talent to compete with the best of other conferences. Not with Florida or Texas or even USC, but compete with the OSU's and the tOSU's and the Alabama's and LSU's. Those two teams are FSU and Miami.

FSU and Miami have most all the talent in the ACC. They have recruited well for years and continue to do so. Lately they have done a really poor job of making that talent turn into wins, but they are more talented then the other 10 ACC teams, easily. It's just a recruiting fact.

If FSU or Miami turn out to be the class of the ACC, that means they finally are getting the most out of that talent. And that means that they are a team that can compete on the national stage.

So give FSU and Miami a chance to see if they have what it takes this year. If they end up stumbling and put together another year where all that talent goes to waste, then laugh away at the ACC. I'll join you.

But if one or both of them end up having good years, then the ACC has a good chance to win a good BCS bowl matchup and show the cream of the ACC is as good as some of the other middle conferences.

Frankly, until FSU and/or Miami rise up and take the ACC over (or by some miracle a team like UNC starts recruiting on the national stage and pulls in 3 straight top 10 classes that mesh together), the ACC stinks, and stinks badly.

But you have to give those two legit national programs, that recruit nationally and have a national following, a chance to see if this is the year they return to being a national power, before you can just write the ACC off. It's still a bit too early to tell if the ACC is horrible top to bottom. Let's give Miami and FSU a chance to see if they can play up to their talent, and if they do, then the ACC is pretty much the Big 10, not great, but easily better then what you consider the ACC to be right now.

Category: NCAAF
Tags: ACC, FSU, Miami, NCAAF, VT
 
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Posted on: June 14, 2010 8:45 am
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Since: Jan 20, 2007
Posted on: September 11, 2009 9:27 pm
 

Cut the ACC some slack - for now

Well if you watched the game last night Im sure you know. Parker's a redshirt freshman. Apparently has a cannon for an arm (where was it?). Thought maybe in his first real road game as a starter he came out nervous. Thought the offense was flat. Still came all the way back. Willie Korn if I believe Im right got some snaps against MTSU in the opener and played terribly. I cant speak for him as like you know Im new to the school and thats the ONLY time I've seen him. But the coaching staff likes Parker a lot and envision big things for him while here. Tough loss last night but I think between FSU, Miami, VT, GT, Clemson, and BC, we're showing we're not as bad a conference as people make us out to be.



Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: September 9, 2009 8:39 am
 

Cut the ACC some slack - for now

FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech, and Georgia Tech will all make the ACC proud.  This conference isn't the Big East, a conference where the WAC (a non-BCS conference) is better top to bottom.  One bad weekend and this garbage starts?  It won't take long.  Virginia Tech may be a little overrated and Miami a little underrated but this is a great conference.  Georgia Tech is strong.  They run the option better than any team in the country.  The ACC is just fine and will prove it over the course of the season.  It's a marathon and not a sprint.



Since: Mar 14, 2008
Posted on: September 8, 2009 9:47 pm
 

Cut the ACC some slack - for now

Why is Clemson not playing Willie Korn 100% of the snaps? I don't know much about your starter at Clemson, but I know Willie Korn is good enough to be a top 10 QB nationwide.




Since: Jan 20, 2007
Posted on: September 8, 2009 5:17 pm
 

Cut the ACC some slack - for now

CLEMSON BABY! WOOO! GT come meet your daddy on Thurs night....

No but in all seriousness ACC is looking weak...



Since: Mar 14, 2008
Posted on: September 8, 2009 4:50 am
 

Cut the ACC some slack - for now

Wake can beat Bama
Obviously I meant Ole Miss.




Since: Mar 14, 2008
Posted on: September 8, 2009 4:46 am
 

Cut the ACC some slack - for now

Did you WATCH the Va Tech/AL game?  Va Tech was actually ahead for a significant period of time -- if you looked at the scoreboard instead of listening to the announcers.

Yes, actually I watched the game twice. Even when Tech was ahead, it was just a matter of time, most any unbias observer would agree with that setiment. Everything about that game was Alabama dominance, outside the scoreboard for certain portions.

VT had scoring drives of:

3 yards
3 Bama penalties, one busted coverage pass for like 43 yards, and about 5 extra yards
1 long run of like 32 yards and like 4 extra yards

Meanwhile Bama and it's 4 returning offensive starters worked up 7 scoring drives, 4 of them over 50 yards on the highly touted Tech D, plus had a long drive that resuted in a missed FG. VT never strung together drives that didn't result in points.

Point is, VT got the maximum points they could have got against Bama, that 24 was maximising every oppertunity they had. Bama tried 5 field goals in the game, they could have had much more then that 34. If we run that game back at any neutral site for the rest of the season, I'll take Bama and lay 10 points every single week. I think Bama proved who was the much better team.

I didn't see one call that could remotely be considered game changing in that game for either side.
Did you know that, top to bottom, the ACC went 6-6 against the SEC last year? Yea I know that. Only 1 was over a ranked team, best I can recall. I know the SEC had two wins over ranked ACC teams for sure, maybe more. Nobody cares if Wake is better then Vandy.

I know all the stats you mentioned. They are ACC fan favorites, I'm not new to the internet arguments.

But those stats are not what conferences are based on. ACC fans need to get away from that kind of thinking, and need to hope that a legit powerhouse arises from the ACC, that's my entire point.

We can't go from talking about how the ACC is good because Wake can beat Bama and Clemson can beat South Carolina in 2008, but then Wake and Clemson go about .500 in the ACC, and ACC fans justify it by saying "Well all the teams are good!", then when 7 of them lose opening week in 2009, trying to change the argument to something else.

We need a top couple teams that are national powers. Then the 3-12 don't matter (see: Big 10)

Nobody cares in Big 10 country if Minnesota beat Syracuse. They care if tOSU can beat USC. The ACC needs to start worrying about top 10 wins, not wins where our 7th best team beats your 6th best team, because at the end of the day, those teams play in December 21st bowl games and no fan should be proud of a program that strives to achieve that and no conference should tout the fact that they can put 7 teams in non-elite bowl games when their BCS team had 4 losses.

Unfortunately for the ACC, a couple of high profile games last year (Clemson/AL) like this year (Va Tech/AL) serves as fodder for many ACC-detractors, incl. the ESPN talking-heads (you don't suppose the fact the ACC has not yet renewed their contract with ABC/ESPN that expires in 2011 has anything tro do with it, do you??)
No, the big problem is the media picks the wrong team to make the standard bearer for the ACC every year. Last year Clemson was fake. This year VT is fake. It would be like if ESPN spent a bunch of time talking about how good Rutgers was and how they were the pick to win the Big East, then Rutgers got blasted opening game. Wait, that happened too...guess the media just gets it wrong sometimes.

And as far as Miami goes, we'll see about that coaching thing. Can you name the coaches that won the 5 national titles at Miami? Coker wasn't a very good coach. Erickson isn't a very good coach. Even Schnellenberger is pretty average, look at his overall record. You don't need an all world coach when you have superior talent. GT will be tough, they picked on freshman LB's for the U all game last year, but I think we will be much more prepared this year.

Anyway, you should be celebrating! This was a great day for the ACC! Miami put together the talent they have and got a big win on the road against a very good team, and FSU also proved that they were a very good team.

You want the ACC to get respect? Well it's gotta win some big games on the national stage. Miami has Oklahoma coming up, and plays Ohio State the next two years in a row. FSU plays Florida every year and Oklahoma the next two years in a row. The right two teams in the ACC put out the best two performances in week 1. If this holds up for the entire season, the ACC will start getting a lot more respect, because Miami and FSU are the only two teams that can gain that respect, they are the only ones that play the big out of conference games almost every single year, and the only ones that can win them.

Don't worry, I can talk CFB just fine, so I'll decline your offer to stick to the NBA and the photos.



Since: Mar 19, 2007
Posted on: September 8, 2009 2:13 am
 

Cut the ACC some slack - for now

Did you WATCH the Va Tech/AL game?  Va Tech was actually ahead for a significant period of time -- if you looked at the scoreboard instead of listening to the announcers.  Couple of mistakes, a few calls, and yes, 'Bama's huge frontline on both sides of the ball eventually led to their downfall.  So, in contrast, I suppose Ohio State's narrow win over Navy was just a minor fluke occurence for a vastly superior team based upon recruiting, so we really shouldn't pay attention to that...

BTW, just a few stats...

Did you know that, top to bottom, the ACC went 6-6 against the SEC last year?  Unfortunately for the ACC, a couple of high profile games last year (Clemson/AL) like this year (Va Tech/AL) serves as fodder for many ACC-detractors, incl. the ESPN talking-heads (you don't suppose the fact the ACC has not yet renewed their contract with ABC/ESPN that expires in 2011 has anything tro do with it, do you??)  2008 REGULAR SEASON: 2008 out-of-conference regular season record -- ACC 37/11, 2nd in the country; The ACC faced out-of-conference teams with the second best overall records of all other BCS teams out-of-conference opponents (237-137); The ACC had the highest percentage of non-conference games against BCS-league opponents at 48% --- of those games, the ACC went 15-8, winning 65% --- the highest of all BCS conferences, against teams who's combined win-loss was 174-117 (59.8%) overall, only edged out for 1st place in this category by the PAC 10 at 60.7%; The SEC scheduled 24 1-A non-BCS conference foes in 2008 and won 22, while the ACC scheduled 11 and won 8; To the detriment of the ACC, it scheduled 14 1-AA opponents in 2008 to the 9 scheduled by the Big 10, Big 12, and SEC.  The "worst conference" nomiker simply isn't true...

For 2009 I'm afraid Miami, for all of their talent and even after tonight's win over FSU, is lacking in coaching and will fall to Ga Tech because they won't be disciplined enough to "stay at home" against the option.  FSU lost to Miami and will drop like a rock because they're ACC.... UNC will be fine, after losing all 3 receivers and tightend to the NFL DRAFT IN THE 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th ROUNDS (...no decent recruits...?) but will need an all new receiver corps to step up -- best prospect out for 3 weeks with kneee surgery.  UNC plays FSU this year (and Miami and Va Tech, of course).  Ga Tech will present a challenge.  Watch out for a resurging Clemson under new leadership and frankly I expect them to go to the ACC Championship game, and Boston College will again be tough. 

So tell me, of the weekend's games of FSU-Miami tonight, AL-Va Tech, Ohio State-Navy, Oklahoma-BYU, Oregon-Boise State, GA-OK State, which appeared to be the most competitive with the most-prepared teams? 

It's just a matter of time.  Stick to the NBA and photo-captioning, kmvenne...LOL



Since: Feb 5, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2009 5:31 pm
 

Cut the ACC some slack - for now

The canes will save the ACC


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