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Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

Posted on: February 24, 2010 10:44 am
 
Everyone has thoughts on the players who will help themselves with a strong performance at the Combine. In reality, after a month and a half of preparation, many of these athletes are in the best shape of their lives.

That said, there will be disappointments this week. Predicting them is always difficult, but I'm going to try to do so anyway.

Here are my 5 potential Combine Busts (and why):

QB Jevan Snead, Ole Miss: Snead and the rest of the quarterbacks have a nice opportunity to impress scouts this week considering that most of the top-rated quarterbacks won't be throwing. Snead has struggled with accuracy throughout his career, however, and has an unfortunate history of struggling in high pressure situations.

WR Dezmon Briscoe, Kansas: Briscoe has good speed for his lanky frame (6-3, 200), but I question if he doesn't look faster on film due to Kansas' spread offense that often got him the ball in stride. Battling questions about his work ethic, Briscoe, with a subpar performance, could get lost in the shuffle of mid round receivers.

TE Jermaine Gresham, Oklahoma: Like Briscoe, Gresham has generated much of his success due to the fact that he's played out of the spread offense. He certainly has run away from his share of defenders for the Sooners, suggesting that he might be faster on the field than he is for the stopwatch. I do not believe, however, that he'll impress in the 40-yard dash; potentially tightening up an already competitive race with Arizona's Rob Gronkowski and Florida's Aaron Hernandez to be the first tight end selected this year.

OT Trent Williams, Oklahoma: I expect Williams to surprise scouts with how well he'll work out, but insiders tell me he'll also measure in considerably smaller than the 6-5, 330 pounds he was listed by Oklahoma. We saw Florida State pass rusher Everett Brown slip into the second round last year largely due to his coming in smaller than expected. I don't expect to see Williams slip that far, but if he measures in at 6-3 (as some have predicted), some teams will consider him too short to play tackle.

ILB Pat Angerer, Iowa: Angerer relies on his instincts and physicality to get the job done at inside linebacker. He's reportedly been timed in the mid 4.5s at 235 pounds. If he runs that fast, I (and more importantly) scouts would be surprised. Some are projecting him to be much closer to the 4.7s.






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Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: February 26, 2010 3:48 am
 

Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

He is listed as a projected 4th-5th rounder, so clearly they don't think he is that great.  From your Logo I see a philly fan, home of the fans that boo their own teams.  Win or lose, New Orleans fans have always supported their team, but Philadelphia fans and people boo their own sports teams when they are struggling.  By the way, don't hate because we won the Superbowl and you still have Mcnabb. If any city needs an asswhooping it is Philadelphia, which is what the Saints gave them last year at Philly, scoring 48.  I hope you were there that game to witness greatness, something Eagles fans don't get to see from their team.




Since: Mar 22, 2008
Posted on: February 25, 2010 6:36 pm
 

Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

this is a garbage list!   Im guessing this Rang dude never watched pat angerer play except for his little film work he does to make this crap list. the fact that tim tebow isnt on this list but the glue to this very good iowa d IS????

he needs to be reminded that he was one of the slow fat white northern guys who DESTROYED the god-like speed of that great georgia tech offense.  you know...the south with all their speed, pat angerer, the little white iowa boy, who anchored this laughable performance by that much ballyhooed offense the media said was going to make a joke out of iowa's defense.....think again on putting pat angerer on this list!  would love for the colts to get this guy! 

more southern ignorance. would love to see this rang dude tell pat to his face how disappointing hes going to be. he has NO CLUE the makeup of this tough guy. hes a FOOTBALL PLAYER!



Since: Jul 5, 2009
Posted on: February 24, 2010 10:36 pm
 

Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

Alot of people who actually watch college football have heard of Pat Angerer. He was the star linebacker on the Orange Bowl winning team and I believe first team all big ten. I don't know where you are from but I can only assume by your Saints logo that you are from the dirty south. Not everyone loves the SEC and there are other good conferences out there. Speaking of New Orleans and hurricane katrina, if any city needed a shower it was New Orleans. You people are mostly cajun. That's french and hillbilly all rolled into one. That's a hygiene problem that no anti-persperent can handle.



Since: May 2, 2008
Posted on: February 24, 2010 7:35 pm
 

Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

bigdog...I respectfully disagree. Scouts absolutely care about height in all NFL players, especially lineman. I would think that an o-lineman that checked in at 6'3" would not be drafted in the first round and would be considered an extremely high risk in any round. As a matter of fact, I checked the CBS Draft history for O-Lineman and out of approximately 100, only 3 or 4 were under 6'4".

I do agree that reach is a big deal but the writer of the acticle nailed the potential O-Lineman issue.



Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: February 24, 2010 7:25 pm
 

Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

Why is Jevan Snead on here?? His season was a huge bust this year for Ole Miss, so I think he already disappointed all the scouts with his on the field performance.  He would have probably been a first/early 2nd last year, but he does not really have much upside to begin with.  His numbers were well below his 2008 performance and even if he is great at the combine, is he really an NFL starter???  I don't think so.  And no offense but Pat Angerer, this writer could have at least put all players that most people have heard of or know about.  How about some big names that are top 20 projected picks, not 2 out of 5 that are first rounders. 



Since: Feb 24, 2010
Posted on: February 24, 2010 5:45 pm
 

Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

Just to say something about Vernon Davis in comparison to the others you mentioned.......

Jason Witten - Tony Romo
Antonio Gates - Drew Brees. Phillip Rivers
Dallas Clark - Peyton Manning
Tony Gonzalez - Trent Green (good trent green) and Matt Ryan
Vernon Davis - Alex Smith????

There is a huge difference between his qb and the other great te's qbs.   That has a lot to do with his coming of age as well.  Vernon is a monster physically and on the field.



Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: February 24, 2010 4:20 pm
 

Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

Ha, I'll agree w/ the 1st 2, but the Oklahoma guys? First off the TE taken 1st last year ran a 4.9 @ the combine and wasnt as productive in the passing game as Gresham has proved to be. I'll be real surprised unless he totally flops at the combine if he falls out of the 1st rd, w/ the Bengals, Ravens and Cardinals looking desperate at that position.
Next with Williams, I mean< 6-5 330 is not what teams are looking for in an LT anyway, considered to large. youre protypical LT is going to be more like 6-4 310. Too many speed rushers in the NFL not to have a T thats nimble. If anything if he comes in smaller and tests out good at the combine it'll probably HELP his draft position. on this note as well, a DE not measuring up is by far a bigger deal.
Lastly w/ Angerer. The guys not going to get drafted till the 3rd round or later anyway, he plays mike. Most mikes dont run better than a 4.7. If that dude runs a 4.6 or better, with as physical as he is and his resume he'll easily sneak into the 2nd round.
Cmon Rang, give us something better than this. Do sportswriters even watch tape/games?



Since: Jul 5, 2009
Posted on: February 24, 2010 3:23 pm
 

Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

How about 5 who showed that combines are more overrated Tom Brady, Brian Westbrook, Anquan Bouldin, Kurt Warner and Ryan Leaf. The first four have been to a combined 9 superbowls and 20+ pro bowls and all are probably going to the hall of fame. While Ryan Leaf was the number 2 pick and alot of so called experts thought he was better then Peyton Manning. My point is you have to base more on what a player did in college and well they do the little things such as tackling and leadership.



Since: Sep 13, 2006
Posted on: February 24, 2010 3:05 pm
 

Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

FrConn3ct1on is spot on with this.  I usually dont rip the writers from CBS because they dont
tick me off as much as some but this guy is clueless on this.  Gholston was the perfect example.

As a Husker fan, I remember we had 2 first round draft picks in 1991. Both obtained that status
due to great workouts and measurables at the combine.  Bruce Pickens to Atlanta in the top 5
and Mike Croel to Denver in the top 10.  Both were very good players for NU but had no business
being drafted that high.



Since: Feb 27, 2009
Posted on: February 24, 2010 3:03 pm
 

Five Who Will Disappoint in Indy

Personally, I think the combine is the most overrated experience in all of sports. Every year there are a handfull of guys that become workout warriors for a month or so leading up to the combine and come in and put up great numbers in the 40, vertical jump, and other measurables. However, when you watch them on tape their athletic ability rarely transfers to the field.

Vernon Davis of the 49ers put up ridiculous numbers at the combine a few years ago, but had been a bust until last year. With all of his athletic ability it just didn't translate t the field. He is faster and jumps hire than Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez in his prime, Dallas Clark, and Jason Witten but he can't carry any of those players jockstraps yet. Now, if last year was an indication he is coming into his own and may have a breakout year this year. But this year will be like his 5 th year so he is well overdue.

Donte Stallworth ran a sub 4.4 40 in 2002 or 2003. Teams went ga ga over the kid and he gets drafted in the first round. The guy has never turned in a 1,000 yard season or been close to the league leaders in yards per catch in spite of all that great speed. He has been cut by like 4 or 5 teams including most recenty by my Browns. Yes, they had to get rid of him because of his off the field problems but I submit that they had to get rid of him for a much more basic reason...HE WAS A BUM!

A couple of years ago Matt Jones ran a sub 4.5 40 that impressed so many people that the Jaguarsdrafted him in the first round. I know he was in trouble off the field and that's the stated reason for him being cut by the team, but i submit that there they had to get rid of him for a much more basic reason...HE WAS A BUM!

In 95, there were some serious workout warriors. First, Mike Mamula came out of nowhere from Boston College. I didn't even know who the guy was before the combine, but he wowed everyone at the combine so much that the Eagles traded up with the Bucs to draft him. 3 or 4 years later he was out of the league. The sad thing is that the players the eagles missed out on to draft that bum were Warren Sapp, future hall of famer, Derrick Brooks, future hall of famer, and Hugh Douglas, way better pass rusher who would come to Philly in trade with the Jets 2 years later. Second, Ty Howard. Noone probably remembers this guy except for Ohio State fans and alumni (I'm OSU class of 96). He was cornerback for Ohio state that we used to call toast because WRs burnt him so much. However, me and my roommate go watch the Pro Day at OSU Woody Hayes center mainly because we wanted to see what Joey Galloway and Kori Stringer would do. Howard had the nerve to run a sub 4.4. I was dumbfounded because how could he be that fast and be such a BUM. However, all NFL teams saw was the speed and he got drafted. 2 years later he was out of the league, but he still got that initial contract and signing bonus.

NFL teams need to ask themselves one question when deciding how to evaluate players...DID HE PRODUCE ON THE FIELD. If the answer to that question is no than the only question left is why not. It could be b/c he was injured a lot or coaching staff were morons like Ohio State during the dreadfull John Cooper days. If the kid produced on the field, then the only question is can he fit your team's system. That's why I'm rooting for a guy like Tim Tebow. The kid is one of the most productive coolege football players of all time, works hard, and is an even better person. He may not be an NFL QB, but he is definitely a good football player so I hope someone gives the kid a shot. My Browns need help everywhere so we should consider him.


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