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Would JPP Make a Good DT?

Posted on: January 16, 2011 10:13 am
 
NEW YORK – I was having a conversation with one of my writer friends about the draft and he mentioned the defensive tackle position being a problem in 2011. The Giants will more then likely have to let one go and most think it will be DT Barry Cofield. Personally, I hope the team doesn’t let Cofield go because he is a rock in the middle and one of my favorite players. Unfortunately, there is a very real possibility that he will not return. If it were up to me, I would lock the man down with a four year contract. 

This situation at the defensive tackle position will no doubt effect the Giants 2011 NFL Draft but to what extent? There are a number of possibilities that could occur before the draft in April, such as a free agent signing or a trade. One of the more interesting scenarios I have come up with is the possibility of converting DE Jason Pierre-Paul to a defensive tackle. Now before you all rip my head off just hear me out and remember this is only an idea. JPP was drafted in April of 2010 and was listed at 270 pounds. By the time the 2010 regular season started in September, Pierre-Paul bulked up to 285 pounds and was still flying around the field like he was a welterweight. 

My question is simple, what would JPP do if he put on another 15 pounds (to round it out at 300 pounds) and got those extremely long arms a yard or two closer to the opposing quarterbacks at the defensive tackle slot? It is a very intriguing thought. It is extremely unlikely that this will happen but DC Perry Fewell has been using the “nascar” defense quite a bit this year. The name of the game is to get the talent on the field. Imagine Tuck, Osi and JPP on the field for every single down the defense played in 2011, that’s scary. Ultimately, Pierre-Paul’s talent at defensive end will prevail when Osi or Tuck decide to retire or move on to another team. But wouldn’t it be amazing if JPP were to change the defensive tackle position forever with his unique combination of size and speed? Where ever the team decides to play JPP, one thing is for sure, the guy is going to be a pro bowl player within a year or two. He is just too talented and committed for things to turn out otherwise. 

I would like to hear your thoughts on whether or not JPP would be a nice fit at the DT spot in 2011 or if you feel he is too valuable as depth for the DE spot. Please keep in mind that the Giants will be getting a guy named Mathias Kiwanuka back from injury in 2011 as well.
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Since: Aug 29, 2007
Posted on: January 18, 2011 1:40 pm
 

Would JPP Make a Good DT?

If the G-Men lose a DT, such as Cofield this offseason, where could you see them drafting another one in the 2011 NFL Draft?

Most would agree O-line and LB are much bigger needs, so to answer this question, hopefully, no later than 2nd or 3rd round.  Of course, that's assuming they actually play the guy at some point and start thinking outside the box.  If he sits on the bench all season the way Joseph did, then what difference will it make?  And, don't tell me Barry Cofield was THAT spectacular, because he wasn't.  So, please, stop. 
They raved about Joseph; yet he barely saw a down all season on defense, so they'd better get someone who's lights-out and draft him early.  Unless they want to bring in yet ANOTHER slow, old veteran who's average at best, Linval Joseph will get his chance now if Cofield leaves, which is a good thing, so getting another stud DT opposite Joseph would be a wise move IMHO.  I don't see that happening after the 3rd round.  Average city after that. 



Since: Mar 3, 2009
Posted on: January 18, 2011 1:11 pm
 

Would JPP Make a Good DT?

Good comments guys. I was just curious about this topic because JPP seems to have unlimited potential to me. He will certainly play some defensive tackle in Fewell's nascar scheme but I doubt he would be a full time DT. I just wanted to get a feel for what your thoughts and opinions were on this Giants team and idea. If the G-Men lose a DT, such as Cofield this offseason, where could you see them drafting another one in the 2011 NFL Draft?



Since: Aug 9, 2007
Posted on: January 17, 2011 2:16 pm
 

Would JPP Make a Good DT?

Greetings from a visiting Falcons fan...

I'd guess that moving Jason Pierre-Paul to DT full time would do more harm than good.  Having him bulk up an extra 15 pounds would take away some of his agility as well as his speed. 

If the Giants play Tuck, Osi and JPP on the field together, it might make more sense to put Osi and JPP outside and let Tuck be the one coming in from the middle.  He has more experience with sliding inside.



Atlanta flirted with moving a DE inside full time this season.  That idiot Bobby Petrino wanted Jamaal Anderson as the cornerstone of his defense, so our GM drafted him with the #8 in 2007.  (Anderson was a one-year flash in college that had started his sophomore year as a tight end.  He moved to DE late in that season, had success at DE as a junior, and opted to enter the draft immediately.  Good move on his part, as 2007 was a pathetically weak draft year.  He certainly would not have been a top ten pick or even a first rounder in 2008.)

Jamaal plays DE, but he's always had the size, build, and lack of speed of a DT.  So this season he bulked up and moved inside.  It helped with our DT depth, though he's still not a good pass rusher by any means.  By midseason, the Falcons ended the experiment and played him as a run defense DE, which is what he does best.

If the team had moved him to DT full time in 2008, it might have worked out a lot better.  We were in dire need of DTs that year and had another guy available to step in at DE.  Now the team doesn't really need Jamaal at either position.  I'm anticipating they'll finally pull the plug on him before the 2011 season opener.



JPP on a bad day is far more talented than Jamaal on a good day.  But it would be a case of unnecessary tinkering - messing with some of JPP's better attributes to add something the Giants really don't need from him.  It's probably not worth the risk.





Since: Nov 1, 2006
Posted on: January 16, 2011 12:49 pm
 

Would JPP Make a Good DT?

I agree with Charlie.   Draft players who can play not just projects and plug them in sooner then later. If their not good enough to play well either the coaches can't teach or the draft pick is a bust and move on. AND can we start drafting AND PLAYING our draft picks without solely basing the starting roster on JUST how they do with special teams? I understand the roster spots are finite and you need to contribute but if we can actually draft players we can use at their stated position, maybe we wouldn't need to have these what if discussions.


TT



Since: Aug 29, 2007
Posted on: January 16, 2011 12:11 pm
 

Would JPP Make a Good DT?

Isn't this the reason we drafted Linval Joseph?  DO we really have to switch a DE to DT just to NOT have to use Joseph?  They raved about Linval Joseph all preseason; then never used him in games.  Now, let's see what the kid's got.  Let's use DT's as DT's just like the other 31 NFL teams do. 



Since: Aug 23, 2007
Posted on: January 16, 2011 10:52 am
 

Would JPP Make a Good DT?

I think if there is one DE you considering moving to DT it would be Tuck as he seems to be the strongest and most stout against the run. Kiwanuka is also scheduled to be a FA this year although things can change depending on how the CBA shakes. In regards to Cofield, I would like to see the Giants resign him and cut Rocky Bernard. Unfortunately, I am not sure the Giants will resign Cofield because I do think he will get a big contract in free agency.


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