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WEEK 15 AFC & NFC UPDATED AFTER 1pm Games

Posted on: December 19, 2010 5:14 pm
 

Here is what has happened after early games this Sunday:

- Atlanta clinched playoff spot due to NYG loss (how did the Giants lose that game?)
- Arizona, Houston and Miami are now ELIMINATED from playoff contention
- PIT can no longer clinch division or 1st round bye
- Largely due to IND win over JAC:
    - JAC can no longer clinch division
    - NYJ can no longer clinch playoff spot
    - BAL can no longer clinch playoff spot
- Due to their losses, NYG and N.O. can no longer clinch playoff spots


WEEK 15 PLAYOFF PICTURE (Updated after 1pm ET games):

  AFC

  CLINCHED:    New England - playoff spot.
  ELIMINATED:  Buffalo, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Denver, Houston, Miami

 NEW ENGLAND Patriots
  New England clinches AFC East division and a first-round bye:
   1) NE win + NYJ loss or tie
   2) NE tie + NYJ loss

 PITTSBURGH Steelers
  Pittsburgh clinches a playoff spot:
   1) PIT win or tie
 There are other scenarios in which Pittsburgh may clinch a playoff spot if
 it clinches the strength of victory tiebreaker over certain teams this weekend.

 NFC

  CLINCHED:    Atlanta - playoff spot
  ELIMINATED:  Arizona, Carolina, Detroit, Washington, Dallas, Minnesota.
 
 ATLANTA Falcons
  Atlanta has clinched a playoff spot (due to NYG loss)
 
 CHICAGO Bears
  Chicago clinches NFC North division:
   1) CHI win + GB loss

Comments

Since: Dec 20, 2010
Posted on: December 20, 2010 10:52 pm
 

WEEK 15 AFC & NFC UPDATED AFTER 1pm Games

From davidmac:

So to summarize:

NYJ is in next week with:
1) NYJ win/tie OR
2) JAX loss/tie (due to SoV over SD and conference over KC) OR
3) IND loss/tie (throwing a best-possible 10-6 AFCS to JAX, removing JAX from WC contention)

And Lensova said this too.

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Okay Davidmac, with the blowout in Minny I sat down and tried to work out the math.. best-case, worst-case scenarios for SoV for 10-6 Jets and 10-6 SD and I keep coming up with 66 wins for both, if EVERY possible result when SD's way (and that includes Carolina beating Pittsburgh Thursday), and the worst-possible results all happened to the Jets.

This includes Indy and Jax both at 10-6 (with Indy winning division) and KC winning division at 11-5, to create the SoV scenario.I am sure I am doing something wrong, but not sure what!



Since: Dec 28, 2009
Posted on: December 20, 2010 10:44 pm
 

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Giantsplayoffs and Lensova


Forget It   


I just did quick S of V calculation, GB would have it


Someone should check Common Games in a 3-way tie the Giants, GB and TB all at 10-6, and 8-4 Conference Records


Thanks






Since: Dec 28, 2009
Posted on: December 20, 2010 10:18 pm
 

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Lensova


If that is true, the GIANTS have an outside chance even if they lose to Green Bay



If Tampa finishes 10-6, then maybe theiebreakers will fall that way  



Since: Dec 16, 2007
Posted on: December 20, 2010 10:10 pm
 

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Chili:

If one team has a better SoV than the other two, then the top team is taken.  If the top two teams tie in SoV, then the third drops out and the procedures begin again with the remaining team.

I've never liked the way the tiebreaker method is described, but if a single team leads a multi-team tiebreaker, that team is taken.



Since: Dec 28, 2009
Posted on: December 20, 2010 10:05 pm
 

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Joe FERREIRA


Question    If 3 teams are tied for the wildcard, and the tiebreaker goes to Strength of Victory,


do they:


A)   Take the top team in that step; OR

B)    Drop the lowest team out AND revert to the top procedure ???



Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: December 20, 2010 10:03 pm
 

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"Now that we have the possibility of a team with a losing record making the playoffs, I'm trying to search past NFL records, but the only season I can find where teams made the playoffs with a losing record was the strike shortened season of 1982, where CLE and DET were 4-5 and made the playoffs.  If anyone can find a team in a non-strike year that made the playoffs with a losing record, I would like to know. If both STL ans SEA lose this coming weekend, that'll guarantee a 7-9 or 6-9-1 team making the playoffs.  Will this be a fisrt in a non-strike season?"

gwsmith01,

Yes, it would be the first time a team would make the playoffs with a losing record in a non-strike season.  It should be noted that in that strike shortened season of 1982, the NFL adopted a 16-team postseason tournament which allowed CLE and DET (both 4-5) to qualify as the 8th seed in the AFC and NFC, respectively.  Here is a list of teams to make the playoffs with a .500 record or worse:

1969 AFL Houston Oilers 6-6-2 .500 (AFL Eastern division runner-up)
1982 Cleveland Browns 4-5-0 .444 (8th seed in AFC)
1982 Detroit Lions 4-5-0 .444 (8th seed in NFC)
1985 Cleveland Browns 8-8-0 .500 (AFC Central Champions)
1990 New Orleans Saints 8-8-0 .500 (NFC third Wildcard--#6 seed)
1991 New York Jets 8-8-0 .500 (AFC third Wildcard--#6 seed)
1999 Dallas Cowboys 8-8-0 .500 (NFC second Wildcard--#5 seed)
1999 Detroit Lions 8-8-0 .500 (NFC third Wildcard--#6 seed)
2004 St. Louis Rams 8-8-0 .500 (NFC first Wildcard--#5 seed)
2004 Minnesota Vikings 8-8-0 .500 (NFC second Wildcard--#6 seed)
2006 New York Giants 8-8-0 .500 (NFC second Wildcard--#6 seed)
2008 San Diego Chargers 8-8-0 .500 (AFC West Champions)

Also, in the AAFC, the Buffalo Bills went 7-7-0 in 1948 and won a divisional play-off over Baltimore to win the AAFC Eastern division.  In 1949, the Bills had a 5-5-2 record and qualified for the postseason as the fourth seed.  From the above list only the 2004 Rams, 2004 Vikings, and 2008 Chargers won a playoff game.  Those three clubs then lost in the Divisional Playoff round.   




Since: Dec 28, 2009
Posted on: December 20, 2010 9:53 pm
 

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I have a wicked scenario for you


Bears win Division tonight or through common games with GB



If the - Packers beat the Giants and Bears to finish 10-6

    -  Giants beats to finish 10-6

    -   Tampa wins two to finish 10-6



Three way tie and the head to head with GB may not govern if GB drops out of the tiereakers first  




Since: Dec 18, 2008
Posted on: December 20, 2010 9:41 pm
 

WEEK 15 AFC & NFC UPDATED AFTER 1pm Games

I was catching up with the updated week 14 blog and week 15 blogs and realized I could have potentially, unknowingly skipped over some if not several posts. For example, if I were reading page 4 while a new comment was posted, it would be likely that a comment from page 3 was pushed to page 4. If I then failed to refresh page 4 before moving on to page 3, I would have unknowingly skipped over this comment. I eventually become aware of this when I went back to a page I had just finished reading, only to find a comment at the top of the page that I had not yet seen.



Since: Dec 28, 2009
Posted on: December 20, 2010 9:35 pm
 

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Remember Divisions are determined First, then the wildcards from the remaining teams


So, the Giants would ONLY go up against either GB or the Bears in tiebreakers



Since: Dec 28, 2009
Posted on: December 20, 2010 9:11 pm
 

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For what you said to happen the Jets have to beat the Bears next week


If the Bears win and GB beats them the following week  (and Bears lose tonght) then they would both be 10-6 and the tiebreaker for the Division would be commn games     
     (each would be 4-2 within the Division and spltting head to head)



In that scenario, the Giants would be IN if the Packers take the Division


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