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Matt Kenseth, Brian Vickers "have at it" again

Posted on: November 13, 2011 9:54 pm
Edited on: November 13, 2011 10:15 pm
 
By Pete Pistone



AVONDALE, Ariz. - The bad blood between Matt Kenseth and Brian Vickers that boiled over in Martinsville two weeks ago hasn't gone away.

Depending on who you ask.

Vickers and Kenseth made contact in Sunday's Kobalt Tools 500 at Phoenix International Raceway in an incident the Roush Fenway Racing driver is sure was another payback.

"Obviously, it is retaliation for retaliation, I guess,'' said Kenseth, who insisted Vickers was telling people all week he planned on settling a score with a payback. "I was out of brakes and I was up on everybody and I saw him coming and I lifted at least 10 car lengths before where I normally would lift, and he drove in there at 165 miles per hour and cleaned us out.

"You have someone that has been telling everybody for four or five weeks that as soon as he got a chance at a fast racetrack, he was going to make it hurt and wipe us out. And they do nothing about it. It was so premeditated. It just surprises me that (NASCAR) didn't do anything."

NASCAR didn't agree with Kenseth's view of the situation and issued this statement after the race:

"Had we felt it was more than a racing incident, we would have reacted."

Vickers reportedly first admitted it was a payback but later had a different explanation.

"I don't know what happened," Vickers told the Associated Press. "He just lifted halfway down the backstretch. I was planning on paying him back, but he just lifted halfway down the backstretch. He just stopped. I don't know why.

"If he wants to doubt us, that's fine. He wrecked me at Martinsville, he got wrecked here, but it actually wasn't (payback). I'm not saying I wasn't going to pay him back, but I'm just saying that wasn't it."

The altercation again puts into question NASCAR's controversial "Boys Have at It" policy and how the sanctioning body does or does not enforce those guidelines.

Kenseth believes there's no room for such behavior at the highest level of stock car racing.

"We aren't racing street stocks at a quarter-mile track," Kenseth said, "so they need to figure out how to get the drivers to settle their differences in a different way and talk about it or figure it out or do something instead of using your car as a battering ram somewhere this fast." 

 
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Comments

Since: Mar 13, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 4:30 pm
 

Matt Kenseth, Brian Vickers "have at it" again

Hey BUCCS469 - sounds like you've been interested in the sport for some time. What would you think about getting the cars back to the Driver being 7/10's of the win. I don't know if you remember when Mario Andretti and A.J. Foyt both came over and beat the best in NASCAR at Daytona bu those were great races.

I'm thinking open up the power band a bit so you can throttle yourself out of trouble but maybe run a 3" blade so the cars aren't running 200 mph. Better yet I'll leave it up to the pros, I'm sure they collected a lot of Data today. Either way I still think it will be a snooze fest. I hate seeing the wrecks knowing how much it takes to fix those things but I love competitive racing.



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2011 1:27 pm
 

Matt Kenseth, Brian Vickers "have at it" again

NASCAR is listening again, even though they don’t like it. There will be changes going into to Daytona this year that will affect Daytona and Talladega. The majority of fans have again complained about the two car tangle, so NASCAR is going to change it. They are testing tomorrow at Daytona to break these packs up which I personally feel it sucks. They have so many new spoiler packages that they are going to be testing that it makes me sick. The Majority of fans didn’t like the pack racing as did most of the drivers. The Fans didn’t like the two car tangle as a lot of the drivers haven’t as well. Now we’re going to get stuck with cars running around that can’t race each other because there is too much disturbed air . Super Speedway racing is going to become the most boring stops that NASCAR will make going in to


i think the problem is the sport has gotten so technical with such limited wiggle room that pretty much every team is running so close its impossible to stretch things out...30 years ago some cars were just simply faster than others and couldnt just grab the draft and ride around with them...now everyone is so close on the speed charts that cars cant simply pull away...with all the research and development teams do they have virtually maxed the cars out...other than limited the amount of dollars teams can spend on r and d and dropping the motor size down at talladega and daytona to eliminate restricor plates....it will be piss poor racing forever.



Since: Mar 13, 2009
Posted on: November 15, 2011 7:03 am
 

Matt Kenseth, Brian Vickers "have at it" again

Thanks okielou - some of the stuff I've seen is a bit scary, how about a 5" blade accross the roof with 3" accross the back at the same time? Yell



Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2011 10:49 pm
 

Matt Kenseth, Brian Vickers "have at it" again

azmohave! Good Read, enjoyed reading someone that knows what they are talking about. I have always agreed with Mark Martin that the Super Tracks where messed up when they started restictor plate racing. Would like to see just once, if they put all of the anti-aero packages on the cars, to do away with the restrictor plates or at least make holes bigger. The cars would then have enough power to get away from one another.



Since: Mar 13, 2009
Posted on: November 14, 2011 10:06 am
 

Matt Kenseth, Brian Vickers "have at it" again

Hey Guys I don’t like it either. I have been involved and stay involved in NASCAR in one way or another since 1973. I was in the Sprint Cup Garage all day Saturday watching some of the teams trying to sneak this and that through inspection. It was funny.

I talked to a few officials about the Kyle Busch deal with Ron and KHR and I was told that Boys Have At It means just that unless it’s under yellow. They even admitted that they missed the call on Todd Bodine after the Martinsville race where Todd drilled three trucks on the Cool Off lap coming off turn four. It was at the end of the race and the race track was yellow.

NASCAR is staying consistent with their procedure here for the most part. Brain Vickers has been talking for about three weeks now that Matt was going to get it – Brian (I don’t like him) delivered. Kevin Harvick came out in the press and said Kyle would not win the Truck or Cup championship this year. KHI has wrecked Kyle for times in the past six weeks and nothing was done to them as well.  The only part that Kyle did wrong was under yellow as far as NASCAR is concerned, which we all know, like him or not was stupid.

As one official put it; do the fans really want us controlling the drivers again? We did it once for about 5 years the fans got pissed so we changed the rule. Good point on NASCAR’s behalf.

NASCAR is listening again, even though they don’t like it. There will be changes going into to Daytona this year that will affect Daytona and Talladega. The majority of fans have again complained about the two car tangle, so NASCAR is going to change it. They are testing tomorrow at Daytona to break these packs up which I personally feel it sucks. They have so many new spoiler packages that they are going to be testing that it makes me sick. The Majority of fans didn’t like the pack racing as did most of the drivers. The Fans didn’t like the two car tangle as a lot of the drivers haven’t as well. Now we’re going to get stuck with cars running around that can’t race each other because there is too much disturbed air . Super Speedway racing is going to become the most boring stops that NASCAR will make going in to the future but the majority of fans want a change so NASCAR is doing just that.Yell




Since: Jun 15, 2008
Posted on: November 14, 2011 6:54 am
 

Matt Kenseth, Brian Vickers "have at it" again

NASCAR is becoming a "joke".  Vickers said he would wreck Kenseth and that's what he did!!  Also, Kenseth had been having break issues since fairly early in the race and it sure looked like aftr he made contact he continued to push Kenseth's car.  Based on NASCAR's comment I guess they now have ESP, yea right!!



Since: May 16, 2008
Posted on: November 13, 2011 11:30 pm
 

Matt Kenseth, Brian Vickers "have at it" again

I guess since Vickers knows he won't have a ride next year he is just going to drive around and take people out.  This guy has become a joke.  Why wasn't he parked today?  I guess your name has to be Bush to get parked. 



Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2011 10:11 pm
 

Matt Kenseth, Brian Vickers "have at it" again

Vickers is an idiot.  He should be fun to watch next year on some short track in some hickville place.  He aint going to get a ride in any NASCAR series stuff wrecking people and himself every week.    


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