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Big Ben Trade Scenario!

Posted on: April 19, 2010 3:53 am
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   I was laying in bed tonight with my beautiful fiancee, going over different trades that have been offered and made, when an idea came to mind. I was recalling the Philadelphia Eagles'-Washington Redskins' Donovan McNabb (QB) trade. I was so excited that I had to get out of bed and throw this one out to everyone via blog. 

   The Oakland Raiders were said to be very interested in acquiring the then Eagles now Redskins QB, even willing to throw Nnamdi Asomugha (CB) in a trade for McNabb. This is where my thought scenario comes into play. The Pittsburgh Steelers have been said to be looking for two first-round picks for Ben. What if Pittsburgh were to give Ben Roethelisburger (QB) for Oakland's CB and their 8th pick in the first round of the draft. Keep in mind Asomugha is a 1st round talent at CB. That scenario, paired with the Steelers' own 18th pick, provides Pittsburgh with two solid spots in the first round. 

   Furthermore, picking up Asomugha would take care of the Steelers' CB need, allowing them to draft Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen (QB) with their 8th pick. Pittsburgh would then be left with their 18th pick, which would best be used for offense line. Idaho's Mike Iupati (G/T) and the University of Florida's Maurkice Pouncey (C/G) are good offensive prospects. Another idea would be for the Steelers to trade their 8th and 18th picks for the St. Louis Ram's first pick. Spicing up the trade a little by throwing in a 3rd or 4th rounder would make it very tempting for St. Louis to accept. Pittsburgh's first pick would be Oklahoma's Sam Bradford (QB), who is projected as the best QB in this draft. Bradford is the closest thing to a franchise QB you will have in a long time, and would eliminate any concern of off-the-field-problems.



That's all the football talk for tonight, take care. 
   -JT
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Since: Sep 16, 2009
Posted on: April 21, 2010 12:41 pm
 

Big Ben Trade Scenario!

I guess you haven't seen the 'hundreds' of pages that were leaked out last week pertaining to sexual allegations against Ben. Reading those allegations made my stomach turn, and I'm sure it infuriated the Rooney's. I think in this case their not exactly worried about the money anymore, I think their just worried about doing the right thing.



Since: Sep 16, 2009
Posted on: April 20, 2010 9:06 pm
 

Big Ben Trade Scenario!

Ben Roethlisberger is a great quarterback, but he too has as many flaws as the stone-washed pants mentioned. The man has just as many sexual assault cases as superbowls, and several more allegations. Yeah, Ben will win many more games and could very well go on to win more superbowls, but he can't expect to do it wearing a Steelers jersey if he plans to keep up his off-the-field antics. The Rooneys run a zero-tolerance organization, and them dealing with Roethlisberger's actions up until now has even surprised me. When I said you would have two first round picks to work with I just did what any NFL analyst does when they write their Mock Draft. I discuss and analyze who they would take in those picks. I don't know what they would do with two picks, I don't know who they would trade them to; but I do have a good idea of what they need, and I have a great idea of who would be there, and would fit good into the team. They could also keep their two first-rounders and trade their second or third-rounders and get multiple players in the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th round. I think to say losing Roethlisberger
would cause 17 years of losing seasons is exessive. Dixon shows to be a promising back-up and could even start somewhere down the line if needed. Don't forget he was a Heisman candidate until he tore his ACL in his senior year at Oregon. Getting rid of Roethlisberger would not be easily forgotten, however I do believe there is a lot of talent on this team, and the addition of Byron Leftwich would bring talent, experience, and depth into the quarterback position, helping the team get over the loss. 




Since: Sep 19, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2010 2:59 pm
 

Big Ben Trade Scenario!

I guess my fellow Steeler fans forgot about the 20 or so years the team went through inbetween Bradshaw and Ben.  I don't understand the thought process of trading away a player who hasn't been convicted of anything.  I guess you guys wanna wait another 26 years for another Super Bowl.



Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: April 20, 2010 2:58 pm
 

Big Ben Trade Scenario!

Are you sure you woke up, or were you having a very wet dream. There is no CB in the league worth more than Big Ben not to mention any draft picks.

Bradford may be the best QB available but he has downsides and as an owner or coach I would not even think about getting rid of a franchise QB worts and all.

If your next argument is we get even more draft picks, who is going to pay them...certainly not the frugal (cheap) Steeler management.



Since: Jan 6, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2010 2:15 pm
 

Big Ben Trade Scenario!

Nice thoughts.  But it will never happen.  The Steelers have $31 million in GUARANTEED money invested in Ben, and they are still on the hook for all $31 million even if they trade him.  Throughout their history, the Steelers have valued frugal spending, even above character issues.  Santonio was traded not just because of his troubles, but because he was going to be suspended for 4 games in the last year of a contract, and they had no $$$ invested in him beyond the next 12 games.  It was a much easier decision than Ben.  
There's no way they will trade Ben unless he commits yet another embarrassing transgression.  



Since: Sep 16, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2010 1:34 pm
 

Big Ben Trade Scenario!

If i recall right the thing holding back that eagles for trading for Ndamandandn Knudaumsmsma (whatever) was that he has 1 year left on his contract with some sort of clause that if he is resigned he will get NFL Qb money or something like that. I could be way off...... just thought i heard or read that somewhere. cheers.




Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: April 20, 2010 11:10 am
 

Big Ben Trade Scenario!

This trade scenario has more flaws than a pair of size 48 stone washed jeans found a Salvation Army store.

First, we talking about a franchise quarterback who has won two SB's at the age of 28. He is big, can move, take a hit, and works extremely well under duress and game ending situations. Thus, his value in draft choices is, at least, a number one or even two number ones. Assume you get a number one and a number two or three and, remember this still would be a good deal for the buyer, where are you going to get the money to pay these wonderful guys you plan on drafting? One place you won't get the money from is the Rooneys...they are and will remain a frugal, at best, ownership.

Second, if they trade Ben who are they going to rebuild around...Dixon? If ever, how long until he even becomes a shadow of the talent Ben brings to the table and, barring injury, could play another five or six years.

Third, they have a head coach who may not be what he is cracked up to be.  Yes he won a SB but with an inherited championship team...how well would he do without a premier QB? I would surmise about as well as Walt Keisling and that ain't good.

The bottom line is this: if they screw up this team by getting rid of Ben and do not get lucky with the replacement players, they could go the way of the Pittsburgh Pirates and, as every one knows, that ain't good.

One final point...I do not know what penalty they are going to slap on Ben, deserved or not, it better not be excessive or there will be reprocussions. You cannot take away a persons job based on some PC league rule that says you can punish based on allegations tendered. This still is America and will be America if we can rid ourselves of the idiots in Congress and the Whitehouse.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: April 20, 2010 1:52 am
 

Big Ben Trade Scenario!

The end of your post about Al Davis would be the exact reason why the Steelers would trade Ben to Oakland. Everyone knows about the animosity between these 2 clubs. What better way to keep that going than by sending damaged goods their way? Ben is 1 incident away from a much harsher punishment. I've loved Ben on the field but I'm sick of his off the field shenanigans. I know Steelers brass doesn't read these posts from us common folk but you have to believe that they know of all the talk from Steeler faithful out there that want Ben gone.




Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2010 6:18 pm
 

Big Ben Trade Scenario!

Here we go with trade scenarios for Big Ben.  As a devoted Steeler fan since childhood and a Big Ben fan, his recent escapades at college bars is a little less desirable to hear about.  Dude you make millions and are scheming on 20-year olds at bars with help from your cop posse.  Come on now.

With the concept of trading Ben in his PRIME to Oakland is not that far fetched of an idea.  I actually like it.  To get Nnamdi Asomugha and a 1st rounder would be extraordinary and a possibility with all of the crazy things the Raiders do.  Heck to get Asomugha and a high 2nd rounder would be good too.

One of the other comments said they were not sure if you can trade a suspended player, did the writer not know the Steelers traded Santonio Holmes only hours after being suspended 4 games by the NFL to the New York Jets for a 5th-rounder?

If this deal is even on the table, the Steelers have had so much bad luck with the off field issues lately, I would pull the string and trade Big Ben for Asomugha and a 1st or 2nd rounder.  If given a 1st rounder, they can use that #8 pick on the best offensive lineman in the draft available at #8.  Whether that is Bryan Bulaga of Iowa, Trent Williams of Oklahoma or even reaching early for Mike Iupati of Idaho or Maurkice Pouncey of Florida.  With the lack of defensive line depth the Steelers also have, they could draft Dan Williams of Tennessee to fill in the mold for Casey Hampton.  Then with #18, the Steelers could get Taylor Mays to play safety.  Mays was a stud at USC and would have been a top 5 pick if he came out last year.  The Steelers defense in the past 5 years have played well when Troy Polamalu was on the field.  When he has been hurt, the defense has not been the same.  Add depth with Mays at 6'3 230 and you have that depth and a great tutor in Polamalu from the same alma mater as Mays.

In the 2nd round you can still get a bargain wide out with Golden Tate from Notre Dame or Mardy Gilyard from Cincy to replace Holmes and be your return specialist.

Trade Ben and use the picks to help boos the depth and play in the trenches where games are won!  I highly doubt the Steelers brass trade him though and with the long standing dislike the Rooneys have for Al Davis since the 70's, I do no think they will ever make a trade with Oakland.


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